CANADA - Lucas Fowler & Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #4

[SnooperDuper]

I can see the camper melting off. Old campers used to be made out of steel and wood but the new ones are mostly fiberglass. That way it's light for people to travel with. They also on the tarp next to it had images of a computer and a sink and what looked like to be a stove or furnace. Also what's really weird is the top of the truck... The roof was caved in. It looks like the truck rolled and caved in the top. However the truck at the burn site is upright. The burning camper wouldn't have crushed the roof because again it's made it a fiberglass and light. Can't figure out how the roof was smashed in??

The heat of the fire could have deformed the roof of the truck, especially since the camper would have been over that in part and the fiberglass would burn hot. Any aluminum in the camper top could have melted in the flames as well.

 

[M_Shelll1]

I don't think there is reliable cell phone service up there. They are on their own.
Locals can confirm.

jmo

But if they don't have a phone with them they might not know they don't have service until they get one? I just think with the way people feel so dependent on their phones they would want one even just for the comfort... when I forget my phone I feel so lost lol and I was mid 20s before I got my first cell

 

[jillybean51]

My hometown's own Allan Legere - 7 months in the wilds of New Brunswick:

Allan Legere - Wikipedia

Yes I lived in Saint John at the time!Scary time!

 

[Zella]

Yesterday’s presser was announced a few hours in advance

Okay thank you. There goes that theory of mine!

 

[Inthedetails]

Well, why we await the press conference, I'll take the opportunity to say what a BEAUTIFUL country Canada is. I've enjoyed seeing all the photos and being in awe of the vastness.

jmo

 

[Deleted member 248860]

Their unusual route through Alberta and Saskatchewan suggest that they downloaded and printed some maps, anticipating no access to the Internet.

Who knows. When they left Port Alberni, they could have had an old Rand McNally or Canadian Automobile Association map book for the whole of Canada.

 

[Gina20]

My strong hunch is that Kam or Bryer knows someone who works (or worked) at the gigantic Keeyask hydroelectric project near Gillam.

Their unusual route through Alberta and Saskatchewan suggest that they downloaded and printed some maps, anticipating no access to the Internet.

Agreed. I believe one of them may have family in the area, maybe the one we know nothing about. My hunch, too, if you want to call it that.

 

[canadakcj]

That' can't be entirely true, the military were used local to me to find a man on the run last year, with their helicopters. Our military is used for so many different things.

The national defence act section VI lays out the allowable civic uses of Canadian military.

They can be called to assist during 1. states of emergency (floods, fires, earthquakes etc).

They may also be call upon during a riot.

for any other uses they can not be mandated to respond. The attorney general can request their assistance.

Here is the quote from the National defence act. Part VI Section 276


276 Nothing in this Part shall be deemed to impose liability to serve in aid of the civil power, without his consent, on an officer or non-commissioned member of the reserve force who is, by virtue of the terms of his enrolment, liable to perform duty on active service only.

• R.S., 1985, c. N-5, s. 276
• R.S., 1985, c. 31 (1st Supp.), s. 60

 

[jmarshmarsh]

In what way is VIA Rail involved? Any word on that?

WSers have already been discussing the rail....I always am glad when we hit on the right topics. (Let's overlook the tangents we go on, lol).

jmo

I imagine in the sense that RCMP are combing any CCTV records they have of the area and going through all their records?

 

[MassGuy]

Agreed. I believe one of them may have family in the area, maybe the one we know nothing about. My hunch, too, if you want to call it that.

The family thing is interesting.

Historically, people like this will head to an area where they have connections, or atleast some familiarity.

They’ll probably need help at some point, and may try and reach out to someone they know.

 

[Gunslinging Granny]

Geez. Schmegelsky had severe mental health issues (homicidal) since he was 13.


In an interview with Global News, Madison Hempsted said she shared one Grade 7 class with Schmegelsky in Port Alberni when they were both 13 years old. While she only had limited contact with Bryer, Hempsted said the few interactions she did have with him were troubling.

“There were times he would tell me and my friends ways he wanted to kill us and then himself, which is scary,” she said. “One of my friends commented that Bryer said he wanted to kill his whole family.
RCMP investigating photos of B.C. murder suspects donning Nazi paraphernalia

 

[jmarshmarsh]

The family thing is interesting.

Historically, people like this will head to an area where they have connections, or atleast some familiarity.

They’ll probably need help at some point, and may try and reach out to someone they know.

Total opinion but is there any chance they could have connected with someone in the area online? I'm sure RCMP have access to their online accounts now and would be aware of that though so it's a weak theory.

 

[Snoop Sister]

Conversely, I think they took a wrong turn and ended up there with only one road in and out totally by mistake. Jmo. Remember these are teens and obviously not the brightest - living in a fantasy world.

 

[Gina20]

Who knows. When they left Port Alberni, they could have had an old Rand McNally or Canadian Automobile Association map book for the whole of Canada.

Co-op stores and gas stations sell maps, too.

 

[Jonesk9]

Who knows. When they left Port Alberni, they could have had an old Rand McNally or Canadian Automobile Association map book for the whole of Canada.

They probably did. I've driven from Vancouver Island to Liard River and you probably wouldn't leave for that drive without a map book. I had two that covered all of Canada when I went.

 

[Kubirai]

Would they have purchased burner/track phones prior to this ?

These remote areas have very few cell towers, and those are connected by lower bandwidth microwave antennas.

Even if they purchased a burner phone months ago, the moment it powered up near such a remote tower, the operator will see the unusual activity and notify police.

 

[MassGuy]

Total opinion but is there any chance they could have connected with someone in the area online? I'm sure RCMP have access to their online accounts now and would be aware of that though so it's a weak theory.

Anything is possible I suppose.

It’s entirely possible that they randomly stumbled upon that area by chance.

I do think it’s probably more likely that they are there because they have a specific reason though.

 

[nao]

I'm actually convinced that if they are still up there, it will be one of our First nations persons, who ensures an end is put to this. You know the land, you sense when something is amiss. Two teens familiar with Rust don't have a hope in hell against nature or you.

First Nation can hunt year round so for sure the locals will be driving around with a rifle or 2. Also there is not much to do up there so hunting is main past time. And as hunters any thing out of place will be noticed.

 

[midwinter]

Wow a total nut job JMO RCMP investigating photos of B.C. murder suspects donning Nazi paraphernalia

Weird that this artical uses Schmegelskys first name and McLeods last name

 

[Inthedetails]

Conversely, I think they took a wrong turn and ended up there with only one road in and out totally by mistake. Jmo

It's possible, but they were still "unknown" as perps when they arrived in Gillam. There was no info that in vehicle released yet. They could've turned around and headed back out without calling any attention to themselves. I don't know if they actually wanted to be in Gillam, but I'm starting to think they did.

jmo