CANADA - Lucas Fowler & Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #6

[srper2]

Lucas Fowler and Chynna Deese's minivan pictured with blown out back window | Daily Mail Online

That's one article.... but there was a bunch more.
Also Gray Hughes has some investigative videos on it and it's quite thorough. You can Google him or check out YouTube

Thanks, I will have a look, but still nothing that is evidence provided by police that the vans rear window was shot out from the inside?

 

[huntergerrard]

Australian victim's father is a senior NSWPOL police officer in Australia. Apart from a family presence, his being in the company of RCMP is just as much about courtesy between RCMP and NSWPOL. Believe it or not, this reciprocal behaviour is observed in polite societies.

Absolutely! Sadly, the families will have to work with the RCMP if/when this case ever goes to trial. They need to have open communication.

 

[Errrr]

This. I live in a Northern Ontario city of 160,000, and we JUST found the remains of man in the bush in the outskirts who had been missing since 1996. And that was off a road. The area here kept him hidden for almost a quarter century, and the Gillam area is exponentially more complex, vast and challenging. I think Canadians would have been absolutely amazed if there had been a quick resolution. The police would have needed extraordinary luck, or the suspects would have had to have personally fled into their arms

Remember they made a movie about the guy who’s car left the road in BC and he was eventually found alive!

 

[cody22]

Agree with you but other than a look of mild exasperation from the Press Officer after the first question there has been no change in RCMP communication. The second agitated question from the press the other day did get a bit of a scowl from the Press Officer but all it generated was a re-reading of the prepared remarks first in english and then in classroom french as if to simply punish the audience yet again for simply asking a question!

Classroom French punishment !......LOL !...... Now I gotta clean all this coffee off my keyboard....LOL !....moo

 

[scrappinkat]

I don't recall getting it any information prior to what both sets of people were doing before the murder scene. But what about Kam and Bryer since they left Port Alberni?

They would have had to been driving. They left Port Alberni on the 12th, I assume they managed to catch a ferry without waiting a couple sailings. Fowler and Deese were still alive at 11:30pm on the 14th, their deaths were reported at 7:30am July 15.

 

[MistyWaters]

I would not be surprised if a lawsuit is pending.

Much like virtually all murders, the couple’s deaths were reported locally. At the time it was reported the autopsies were probably not completed. Whether national media choose to publicize the story is beyond the control of the RCMP.

RCMP investigate suspicious deaths near Liard Hotsprings

 

[Trooper]

There are a lot of people expressing opinions that clearly have no understanding of how big the country is, what the north is like or what the country’s culture is about. Some of what’s being posted is so misinformed that it makes me chuckle, and I live in New York

You wont find anyone from Australia getting antsy and agitated about the length of time this is taking. Or surprised and disbelieving about the difficulties of the terrain and the natural factors unco-operative to human survival out there.

With monotonous regularity, criminals here, in AU can hide out for 7 years and more, living off the bush, teasing the police, the Army, the Air Force, the SES (State Emergency Services ) and still be alive and captured after all that time.

The Tyranny of Distance, a quality both AU and Canada share. It 's like the earth going round the sun, the time expended by both fugitives (K and B ) and chasers ( RCMP et al ) is exactly the same, the hour is 60 minutes long for all concerned, and it's a matter of who gets the most run out of that 60 minutes.

 

[peowope]

been a lurker till now.

there’s a netflix show called “end of the *ing world”. it’s where a psychopath teenage boy and a girl go on a road trip. they end up taking his dads car, stealing a mans wallet while on the road, breaking into a house and killing a man - leaving them to take a hold of the place. they’re on the run with no internet. they end up hitchhiking to her dads place where the dad hides them away from authority.

i think there’s some correlation from this show and these two boys from BC. maybe they took some inspiration from the show? this is just my silly assumption.

 

[afitzy]

Thanks, I will have a look, but still nothing that is evidence provided by police that the vans rear window was shot out from the inside?

The other person that spoke about the window was the road worker that was tasked with securing the scene for 3 hrs or so before RCMP made it to the scene. The road worker was clear in what he said about the window glass. Search out that video as it was quite helpful in terms of understanding the nature of the injuries and the damage to the window.

 

[zecats]

There's this, in case they are still in the area. And for all those searching as well.

https://7news.com.au/news/world/luc...cts-kam-mcleod-and-bryer-schmegelsky-c-369632

Polar bear spotted during search for teen suspects Kam McLeod and Bryer Schmegelsky

A polar bear has been spotted as police continue their manhunt for the two teens suspected over the murder of Australian backpacker Lucas Fowler and his girlfriend Chynna Deese.

A photograph released by Canadian police show the animal stalking the wilderness where suspects Kam McLeod and Bryer Schmegelsky are thought to be hiding.

 

[acutename]

Absolutely! If they're hiding in the bush they would have no idea storms are moving in.
Wet and cold, tired and hungry... in 4C!

if they had followed (on foot) the RR tracks south of where the RAV was left, what is the first shelter they would have reached?

 

[Trooper]

Agree with you but other than a look of mild exasperation from the Press Officer after the first question there has been no change in RCMP communication. The second agitated question from the press the other day did get a bit of a scowl from the Press Officer but all it generated was a re-reading of the prepared remarks first in english and then in classroom french as if to simply punish the audience yet again for simply asking a question!

If, say, they are still alive, it isn't improbable that K and B have ready access to the very same TV broadcast that you are so disparaging of. It would be radical, and outrageous , in the extreme for the RCMP to lay all their cards on the table should there be the slightest , minutest chance of that info landing right on the fugitives lap.

Far better to be circumspect, even the appearance of being baffled, and buffaloed, and at a loss, as a means to an end. Surely, this would be obvious..

 

[scrappinkat]

Does anyone have any better information from this woman's report? There are very few details (again) provided by police. 'Heated exchange' with mystery man before couple found dead on highway
If there was a "mystery man" seen arguing with Chynna and Lucas on the night of their death, what did he look like, did he have a car? Have I missed this info here or is this "mystery man" the drawing with the cap that has been made public? Why are the police not also actively searching for him, as he was the last probably seen with these two murder victims and they were seen having what seemed to be an altercation?

 

[KR72]

There are a lot of people expressing opinions that clearly have no understanding of how big the country is, what the north is like or what the country’s culture is about. Some of what’s being posted is so misinformed that it makes me chuckle, and I live in New York

This exactly. Being from Winnipeg, I'm somewhat of a "local" I suppose. I grew up with a family cottage in the Whiteshell, and even though that area is a provincial park and not all that remote, the area is HUGE and VAST. One could get lost and never be found in the woods there, and that area isn't nearly remote as N. Manitoba. (in fact, a distant relative of mine went missing without a trace from the area in the late 60s. Her name is Sylvia Klayh if any of you are interested in the case).

I think there's a cultural difference at hand here too. Canadian media doesn't usually sensationalize things as much as American media does (though that is starting to change).

Personally, I think the Mounties are doing the best they can given the vastness of the territory involved. If by any chance KM and BS are dead, they may never be found, especially if they fell into the muskeg.

 

[afitzy]

Let me write the news story:

"BC RCMP are cautioning travellers and residents along the Alaska Highway in the province's north to take precautions after an unidentified couple was found shot dead at the side of the road, south of Liard Hot Springs..."

You are hired to write safety news briefings to line the highways of Canada to warn unsuspecting tourists and locals of current events!

 

[srper2]

Lucas Fowler and Chynna Deese's minivan pictured with blown out back window | Daily Mail Online

That's one article.... but there was a bunch more.
Also Gray Hughes has some investigative videos on it and it's quite thorough. You can Google him or check out YouTube

This is an article headline, referring later to the window being gone, but I still cant see anything from police stating the vans rear window was shot out from the ins

Lucas Fowler and Chynna Deese's minivan pictured with blown out back window | Daily Mail Online

That's one article.... but there was a bunch more.
Also Gray Hughes has some investigative videos on it and it's quite thorough. You can Google him or check out YouTube

I am looking for any news statement report from the police stating that the rear window was found to be shot out from the inside, and there are none, just speculation?

 

[1987]

this may be obvious to others, or I have missed something, but the questions at the press release must be pre scripted? I noticed a question was ask and answered then another reporter said same question but in French please, not a word for word quote summed up in my own words, then immediately there the answer is on paper in French. how would it get on paper so fast if the questions were not already known before being ask live?

 

[Deleted member 248860]

...it generated ... a re-reading of the prepared remarks first in english and then in classroom french as if to simply punish the audience yet again for simply asking a question!

Now you’re criticizing the RCMP press officer’s French, which happens to be fluent?

Why are you criticizing her French? Assuming that you speak French, did she mislead you? Some other reason?

Does this have anything to do with anything substantive, or is it just part of a list of random things to criticize?

 

[Canadagurl]

Personally.. I believe if these clowns arent found in the next day or 2 they wont be.
While social media can be a powerful thing, social media can be a powerful thing.

Maybe they're just troops in someone else's crazy game! Possible that theres a mastermind. Anything is possible at this point. Its exhausting.

 

[jassange]

I also feel that claim was intriguing. I feel like if that is true and if it were one of the suspects, one hitchhiker limping playing on sympathy getting picked up and a second in the bush rushing the driver, they could have kidnapped someone, gained a vehicle, killed the driver, dumped the body and could be back in BC, or wherever. If the person had no family etc, who knows where they could be.

I agree. I also think they shouldn't be given too much credit, they're 18/19 yrs old & not exactly masterminds. I suspect they ended up in Gillam because they mistook the train route to Port Nelson as a highway. I doubt there ever was or is any coherent long term plan, they're just flying by the seat of their pants, likely moving according to opportunity.