Canada - Marie-France Comeau, 37, & Jessica Lloyd, 27, slain, Ont, 2009 & 2010 - #2

[pinkeyesucks]

Originally Posted by pjgrrrl

"I also got to wondering how someone would successfully break into 48 different homes without an incidence occurring? Like, a dog barking? A boyfriend lurking inside? The woman sleeping? Alarm systems? It really seems way too risky to me, but I might be missing something. I don't know how to break into a house afterall or know how easy it is. I mean I am guessing some of these houses were close together- so how did not even one person notice? Sheesh."

I dunno pjgrrrl, but I'm kinda creeped out considering it wasn't more than 3 weeks ago that we were warned of a peeping tom in our neighbourhood! My guess would be that he scoped the joints out fairly well before attempting to get in.

 

[RubyRed]

Quiet student. Respected military leader. Alleged serial killer. Can the experiences of the boy help us understand the man?

But the shock of these events, coupled with the extent of Williams' career and life, have police officials, media and the public grappling for answers as to how such a highly successful, well-educated and well-respected career officer could face such serious charges.


http://www.thestar.com/news/ontario/article/764948--life-and-times-of-col-russell-williams?bn=1

 

[flipflop]

Originally Posted by pjgrrrl

"I also got to wondering how someone would successfully break into 48 different homes without an incidence occurring? Like, a dog barking? A boyfriend lurking inside? The woman sleeping? Alarm systems? It really seems way too risky to me, but I might be missing something. I don't know how to break into a house afterall or know how easy it is. I mean I am guessing some of these houses were close together- so how did not even one person notice? Sheesh."

I dunno pjgrrrl, but I'm kinda creeped out considering it wasn't more than 3 weeks ago that we were warned of a peeping tom in our neighbourhood! My guess would be that he scoped the joints out fairly well before attempting to get in.

I agree with you, IMO he scoped every joint out for things like alarms, dogs, or other people in the house, what times they arrived etc. I think he was very clever in this aspect, but got sloppy due to the snow. (leaving tracks from his SUV and boot prints in the snow) If it was not winter with snow on the ground, who knows how many more victims we would be reading about.

 

[LimeCola]

Quiet student. Respected military leader. Alleged serial killer. Can the experiences of the boy help us understand the man?

But the shock of these events, coupled with the extent of Williams' career and life, have police officials, media and the public grappling for answers as to how such a highly successful, well-educated and well-respected career officer could face such serious charges.


http://www.thestar.com/news/ontario/article/764948--life-and-times-of-col-russell-williams?bn=1

"They went to the same university and took some of the same courses on economics, the same campus, they lived in the same Scarborough neighbourhood ... that's a coincidental thing from what we can gather," a police source told the Star. "We are getting a lot of information on all kinds of different things."

I don't know... this seems like more than coincidence to me. How many rapist/serial killers could there have been in their Scarborough neighbourhood?

 

[RubyRed]

"They went to the same university and took some of the same courses on economics, the same campus, they lived in the same Scarborough neighbourhood ... that's a coincidental thing from what we can gather," a police source told the Star. "We are getting a lot of information on all kinds of different things."

I don't know... this seems like more than coincidence to me. How many rapist/serial killers could there have been in their Scarborough neighbourhood?

Between these two nut jobs I just want to vomit.:sick:

 

[antiquegirl]

"They went to the same university and took some of the same courses on economics, the same campus, they lived in the same Scarborough neighbourhood ... that's a coincidental thing from what we can gather," a police source told the Star. "We are getting a lot of information on all kinds of different things."

I don't know... this seems like more than coincidence to me. How many rapist/serial killers could there have been in their Scarborough neighbourhood?

It does sound too coincidental, but coincidences do happen.

Many years ago, my oldest friend lived within 3 kilometers of Williams' cottage in Tweed. They later moved to Port Dalhousie and ended up living a block away from Paul Bernardo. Her son went to school with Kristen French. His friend lived right next door to PB and the two of them went through PB's garbage when French was missing. What are the odds that she lived so close to two serial offenders in two different locations?

I'd personally be surprised if LE found proof that PB and RW were "pals" in their university days. They sound like two completely different personality types. PB was a party animal, stealing license plates and smuggling cigarettes in his youth. RW sounds like an introverted nerd with no social life, according to interviews.

JMO

 

[pinkeyesucks]

I can't tell if these pictures are all the same as the ones linked earlier in regards to the evidence removed from the house but in this shot you can see some of the writing on the sides of the box, and they look like the original box size that was shown being carried into the Ottawa home a few days ago.

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/P...rom+Williams+Westboro+home/2565091/story.html

 

[antiquegirl]

I can't tell if these pictures are all the same as the ones linked earlier in regards to the evidence removed from the house but in this shot you can see some of the writing on the sides of the box, and they look like the original box size that was shown being carried into the Ottawa home a few days ago.

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/P...rom+Williams+Westboro+home/2565091/story.html

From the same article:

" ... have matched a snowy print from a homicide scene to a boot worn by the former base commander."

I've seen mention of this boot print several times without it being identified as coming from Jessica's case. Is it possible that it actually came from Marie-France Comeau's crime scene? Was there snow on the ground, or could this report be mistaken and it could have come from soft or muddy ground? To link RW to both crimes this way would be a coup for LE.

JMO

 

[nonfictionrocks]

It does sound too coincidental, but coincidences do happen.

Many years ago, my oldest friend lived within 3 kilometers of Williams' cottage in Tweed. They later moved to Port Dalhousie and ended up living a block away from Paul Bernardo. Her son went to school with Kristen French. His friend lived right next door to PB and the two of them went through PB's garbage when French was missing. What are the odds that she lived so close to two serial offenders in two different locations?

I'd personally be surprised if LE found proof that PB and RW were "pals" in their university days. They sound like two completely different personality types. PB was a party animal, stealing license plates and smuggling cigarettes in his youth. RW sounds like an introverted nerd with no social life, according to interviews.

JMO

I know this is OT but did your friend's son suspect PB and if so, why?

 

[antiquegirl]

I know this is OT but did your friend's son suspect PB and if so, why?

My friend didn't say, but I'm guessing that as teenage boys who were French's schoolmates, they probably went through many garbage cans, with PB's just being handily next door. She did say that they didn't find anything.

 

[Patience]

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/02/08/f-williams-biography.html

 

[jokie7348]

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/02/08/f-williams-biography.html

Thanks for the biography link. I believe I have read all of the biographical information on Williams, but I have not seen when he married, how many years he has been married, and if they have any children. I would be interested in seeing this info although I don't know how to look it up.

Just wondering if he married late in life and if there are no children.

 

[pinkeyesucks]

From the same article:

" ... have matched a snowy print from a homicide scene to a boot worn by the former base commander."

I've seen mention of this boot print several times without it being identified as coming from Jessica's case. Is it possible that it actually came from Marie-France Comeau's crime scene? Was there snow on the ground, or could this report be mistaken and it could have come from soft or muddy ground? To link RW to both crimes this way would be a coup for LE.

JMO

No snow in Brighton that day, and if you look at the picture on at this link, with cruiser parked in front of the crime scene.....I do believe, I see wet, rainy, MUDDY front lawn.

But that is just my opinion

 

[armywife]

Thanks for the biography link. I believe I have read all of the biographical information on Williams, but I have not seen when he married, how many years he has been married, and if they have any children. I would be interested in seeing this info although I don't know how to look it up.

Just wondering if he married late in life and if there are no children.

BBM

I haven't seen anything stating when they married, but is has been said in that they have no children.

This is one article stating such:
CTV Toronto Russ Williams' profile: A distinguished military man

 

[flipflop]

No snow in Brighton that day, and if you look at the picture on at this link, with cruiser parked in front of the crime scene.....I do believe, I see wet, rainy, MUDDY front lawn.

But that is just my opinion

matched a snowy print from a homicide scene to a boot worn by the former base commander.

I took it that it must have been a JL's house that they found the snowy boot print, as the other took place in Nov when we had no snow.

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/P...rom+Williams+Westboro+home/2565091/story.html

 

[flipflop]

the media can be very misleading....

Police detectives first visited the Edison Avenue home earlier this week, but not to search it for evidence.

Instead, they were there to retrieve some of Harriman’s personal belongings and purse. http://www.ottawacitizen.com/techno...stboro+home+accused+killer/2551107/story.html

then another source prints the following making it sound like they FOUND someones purse

Purse found in search of Colonel Williams’ Ottawa home
Posted on February 10, 2010

Police have conducted a brief search of Colonel Russ Williams’ Ottawa home, and were seen leaving with a few items.

Two officers left the home with a red, leather woman’s purse and two shopping bags yesterday, then looked through the blue BMW in the driveway. The investigators refused to comment and provincial police won’t say what the officers were looking for during their short visit. Williams, the former commander of CFB Trenton, shares the house with his wife, Mary Elizabeth Harriman
http://www.mix97.com/news/?s=jessica+lloyd

 

[antiquegirl]

BBM

I haven't seen anything stating when they married, but is has been said in that they have no children.

This is one article stating such:
CTV Toronto Russ Williams' profile: A distinguished military man

From these articles, it seems that the couple met and married approximately 19 years ago.

"One of his first jobs in the military was instructing pilots in Portage la Prairie, Man. The small town was also where he married his wife, Mary Elizabeth Harriman."

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...s-is-a-man-no-one-really-knew/article1463964/

"But Williams was a natural flyer; so accomplished, in fact, that after earning his wings in 1990, his first job was instructing pilots in CT-134 Beech Musketeer aircraft at the Forces' flying school in Portage la Prairie, Man.

It was there that he met and married his wife, Mary Elizabeth Harriman, in 1991."

http://www.timescolonist.com/techno...ears+instability+privilege/2558189/story.html

It has also been reported that MEH is a few years older than her husband.

"Neighbours in Orléans said Harriman celebrated her 50th birthday a few months ago."

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/mikeho...+before+would+suspect+Russ/2543042/story.html

HTH

 

[pinkeyesucks]

The snow is pretty crunchy around here. I wonder if it's the same there. Same thing crosses my mind again...cocky (or) careless....the voices in my head are driving me nuts!

 

[antiquegirl]

the media can be very misleading....

Police detectives first visited the Edison Avenue home earlier this week, but not to search it for evidence.

Instead, they were there to retrieve some of Harriman’s personal belongings and purse. http://www.ottawacitizen.com/techno...stboro+home+accused+killer/2551107/story.html

then another source prints the following making it sound like they FOUND someones purse

Purse found in search of Colonel Williams’ Ottawa home
Posted on February 10, 2010

Police have conducted a brief search of Colonel Russ Williams’ Ottawa home, and were seen leaving with a few items.

Two officers left the home with a red, leather woman’s purse and two shopping bags yesterday, then looked through the blue BMW in the driveway. The investigators refused to comment and provincial police won’t say what the officers were looking for during their short visit. Williams, the former commander of CFB Trenton, shares the house with his wife, Mary Elizabeth Harriman
http://www.mix97.com/news/?s=jessica+lloyd

Ah, here we go again with the media. I'm guessing that "car" is a typo (the "r" is right beside the "t") and it should have been "cat". RW (macho dude) would not have been so embarrassed about having pictures of his car.

I also believe that it was MEH's purse that LE removed from the house. We know that Jessica left her purse behind when she vanished and there has been no word about Marie-France's being missing. It also doesn't fit with the type of trophies he's been reported to take with him.

Darn irresponsible journalism!

JMO

 

[Hazel]

BBM

I haven't seen anything stating when they married, but is has been said in that they have no children.

This is one article stating such:
CTV Toronto Russ Williams' profile: A distinguished military man

:Welcome-12-june: to WS armywife !​

They have said the Williams bought the Orleans home 14+ years, so that would be around 1995. I haven't read anything stating when and where they got married