Canada - Marie-France Comeau, 37, & Jessica Lloyd, 27, slain, Ont, 2009 & 2010 - #2

[Hazel]

Murder case's handling lauded by Col. Williams
Murder suspect praised corporal's work in man's slaying on Trenton base

A Quinte West man, Marcus Wilson, 37, is charged with that murder.

It is not known if authorities investigating Williams will re-visit the case.

A source provided the Star with a photo of Williams presenting a commendation to a M. Cpl. Thickson for "outstanding professionalism" at the murder scene on July 26, 2009, in ensuring the security of the area and the emergency workers who were attempting to revive the victim while the suspect was at large.

James Read, 36, died at Trenton Memorial Hospital on the same day he was found stabbed at a home on the base.

Three days later, Wilson was arrested.

OPP Sgt. Kristine Rae said she has not heard that the Read case is being re-visited by authorities after revelations about Williams' alleged crime spree emerged last week. "I can't say at this point," Rae said.

http://www.thestar.com/news/ontario/article/765596--murder-case-s-handling-lauded-by-col-williams

 

[SomeGirlOnTheNet]

I left the part out about him speaking at it, I think I was hoping that it wasn't true. I heard another tall tale today that perhaps you could clarify for me. He is not a helicopter pilot as well, correct? Because the hot gossip on the street is that he actually flew one of the SR copters. That just didn't fit into my logical mind as being correct. Ordered it perhaps, but not actually ON IT right?

As far as I'm aware, he was an Airbus pilot and a Challenger pilot. Pilots can't just hop on any ol' plane and fly it - they must take training and become qualified. I don't believe he ever was a C130 pilot either. Helicopter piloting is waaay different than fixed wing.

I would say with 99.999% accuracy that he was not the pilot or a passenger on that Search and Rescue helicopter.

 

[SomeGirlOnTheNet]

Murder case's handling lauded by Col. Williams
Murder suspect praised corporal's work in man's slaying on Trenton base



http://www.thestar.com/news/ontario/article/765596--murder-case-s-handling-lauded-by-col-williams

I know about this murder.

It was the son of one of the ladies who works at the Yukon Galley - there were eyewitnesses to this murder (his girlfriend). It was very cut and dry.

This is all becoming crazy.

 

[antiquegirl]

There have been several mentions of a lake near RW's cottage, but I can't see it on any maps. Mr. Jones also talked about RW having a boat. Could one of the locals please tell me where this lake is and what it's called? Is it Stoco Lake? I wonder why there has been no mention of LE searching this body of water that RW had such easy access to. Is it too cold now to look there? This sounds like a handy dump spot.

JMO

 

[flipflop]

There have been several mentions of a lake near RW's cottage, but I can't see it on any maps. Mr. Jones also talked about RW having a boat. Could one of the locals please tell me where this lake is and what it's called? Is it Stoco Lake? I wonder why there has been no mention of LE searching this body of water that RW had such easy access to. Is it too cold now to look there? This sounds like a handy dump spot.

JMO

I read in a link somewhere that fishing huts were on the lake, therefore the lake is frozen over.

 

[pinkeyesucks]

There have been several mentions of a lake near RW's cottage, but I can't see it on any maps. Mr. Jones also talked about RW having a boat. Could one of the locals please tell me where this lake is and what it's called? Is it Stoco Lake? I wonder why there has been no mention of LE searching this body of water that RW had such easy access to. Is it too cold now to look there? This sounds like a handy dump spot.

JMO

It is Lake Stoco. The cottage is right on the shore. Eastern side.

http://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&source=hp&q=lake stoco tweed&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl

At the time of the sexual assaults one of the theories thrown around that perhaps the perp came across the lake by boat- since there were no unusual vehicles to go on.

 

[Hazel]

MAP showing Cosy Cove Lane and Lake Stoco. http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=62+Cosy+Cove+Lane,+Tweed&sll=49.891235,-97.15369&sspn=28.795555,56.425781&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=62+Cosy+Cove+Ln,+Tweed,+Hastings+County,+Ontario&t=h&z=16

 

[pinkeyesucks]

I can't imagine what these trucks are for. One truck maybe, but two? We've already seen LE removing boxes of potential evidence. Are they trying to look behind the walls or under concrete floors without tearing the house apart? If so, it would have to be something really, really vital, KWIM? But why would he hide something like that in his own house with so many other possible, less risky dump spots? And I can't believe he'd take a live hostage to a house he shared with his wife. So, what could it be?

(And I don't believe his wife will ever move back into that house, or the cottage either.)

JMO

Well, in my opinion....there is more in his statement, and possibly in his dna, than what we know about. Investigators go in and remove hard evidence, forensics search, now two big vans....more to this than meets the eye.

 

[flipflop]

Well, in my opinion....there is more in his statement, and possibly in his dna, than what we know about. Investigators go in and remove hard evidence, forensics search, now two big vans....more to this than meets the eye.

I am curious to know what the OPP carry in these big honkin' trucks that their regular forensic vans don't carry.

 

[antiquegirl]

I am curious to know what the OPP carry in these big honkin' trucks that their regular forensic vans don't carry.

I suppose it's too much to ask that the media find out the function of these type of trucks, but we can always hope. They look different than any I've seen before.

 

[flipflop]

I suppose it's too much to ask that the media find out the function of these type of trucks, but we can always hope. They look different than any I've seen before.

They belong to the OPP, you can see them in the background of this pic on the opp website, I searched the site but cannot find this type of trucks function or purpose. I wonder if they are just a new type of forensic truck?

http://www.opp.ca/ecms/index.php?id=52

 

[satchel]

Just returned for what would have been a regular after supper jaunt to the local drug store. The atmosphere around here is very different than what it was a few weeks ago. Not a single person on the street once darkness falls. Streets that I used to walk down I bypassed feeling like there is not enough light. This has had an enormous impact on our little community.

"A Changed community"... A changed sense of security. I have never thought about who was passing my house when I was putting out the garbage or getting in my car, but lately I feel eerie and suspicious even in broad daylight. Who is driving by and what are they looking at? Should I smile and say Thank-you to that person at Tim Horton's who held the door open for me? This monster attacked randomly, with no apparent connection. People in their most vulnerable state. In their own homes and asleep. How did he choose them. Did he just happen to hold a door open for them or drive by their house one day and decide they were his next victim? This whole thing is distressing and disturbing to alot of people, I think.

 

[antiquegirl]

They belong to the OPP, you can see them in the background of this pic on the opp website, I searched the site but cannot find this type of trucks function or purpose. I wonder if they are just a new type of forensic truck?

http://www.opp.ca/ecms/index.php?id=52

Good work, Flip! Still wondering what they're looking for after removing all those boxes of stuff last week. They did say it was going to take a while, but the curiosity is killing me. :waitasec:

 

[Hazel]

There is no way to know if anything is 100% accurate. We can only go by what the media reports and hope for the best. The reporters have to get their information from somewhere, and presumably with something as important as this, they'd get it from LE, or at least verify it with them. We have to remember that "Monday morning" could be any time after midnight, February 8th.

JMO

Found the answer to my question:

I have a question: "If all reports say Jessica was found Monday morning, is that a fact? I mean is that 100% accurate? Was that said by LE or just the reporters?

OPP Det. Insp. Chris Nicholas

 

[Hazel]

I cannot imagine what ONE of these OPP trucks would be for, let along TWO. The forensic vans had already been in the driveway, as we have seen in media pics. I have no ideas as to what these heavy duty trucks are???? The media states that they carried equipment from these trucks into RW's house. The house has been stated in the media to be under construction in one source and being built in another. This does make me think that something of great interest has been found or they are looking for something that has been hidden in this house, I can't get Bernardo and cement out of my mind....
The trucks are the same trucks as seen in the background of the OPP website
http://www.opp.ca/ecms/index.php?id=52

Flip, that house is brand new. The Williams just moved in last weeks of December 2009. As I posted before, when the Google Street Car took images of Ottawa streets last spring/summer 2009, that semi-detached house was not there.

In its place was an old house with a "FOR SALE" sign. A developer must have bought it, and demolished that house, and in its place constructed what we see today.

Here is the link (you have to wait a bit until the image loads)
Old house in Edison Rd

For comparison purposes, see the pine tree on the left hand side, and small pine tree on right hand side.

Another angle : front view

New house

Cannot think of how/when/what can be so well hidden that requires equipment to find it. Personally I didn't even think there was going to be much found in the Westboro house. It's very puzzling.

 

[pinkeyesucks]

"A Changed community"... A changed sense of security. I have never thought about who was passing my house when I was putting out the garbage or getting in my car, but lately I feel eerie and suspicious even in broad daylight. Who is driving by and what are they looking at? Should I smile and say Thank-you to that person at Tim Horton's who held the door open for me? This monster attacked randomly, with no apparent connection. People in their most vulnerable state. In their own homes and asleep. How did he choose them. Did he just happen to hold a door open for them or drive by their house one day and decide they were his next victim? This whole thing is distressing and disturbing to alot of people, I think.

I couldn't agree more. For me, I know feel the need to analyze everything that happened. It is strange, because I don't WANT to know exactly what happened, but I feel the need to look at every aspect. It has turned into a bizarre drive to know if there was any way I could have spotted it, or stopped it before any of it occurred. This is something that obviously was not forseen, and logically I know that, but the drive is still there, almost like I may find some peace if I figure out the puzzle. How does a community heal from this? Belleville and the surrounding area has never been hugely outgoing and neighbourly, and now it is even less so.

 

[pinkeyesucks]

Flipflop-

I can't find an exact description of the trucks in the pictures, but they look similar to what is called "Rapid Deployment Vehicles". Relatively open in the rear with bench seating along the sides, they would be what is used when dealing with things like riots, or other situations where they need to send in a team of trained officers. That is not to say that they can't be used for other purposes, like carrying equipment to a crime scene.

I will keep looking though.

 

[pinkeyesucks]

Will RW's house on the base ever be searched? There are three current homes technically, Tweed, Ottawa and the quarters located at CFB Trenton.

 

[nobodyzgirl]

Will RW's house on the base ever be searched? There are three current homes technically, Tweed, Ottawa and the quarters located at CFB Trenton.

I suspect that the house on base will get searched, the military could be doing the actual searching for that and passing anything they find over to LE, though that's just MOO.

 

[wishingtorihome]

Found the answer to my question:

OPP Det. Insp. Chris Nicholas

One article I found, indicated the family of Jessica Lloyd was alerted to the discovery of her body on Sunday night - (February 7).
(see below)

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http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache...amily+told+on+sunday&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca

February 08, 2010 12:18 p.m

A family friend, who did not want to be identified, told The Canadian Press earlier that Lloyd's family was told about the discovery of the woman's body on Sunday night.