Canada - Marie-France Comeau, 37, & Jessica Lloyd, 27, slain, Ont, 2009 & 2010 - #2

[antiquegirl]

One article I found, indicated the family of Jessica Lloyd was alerted to the discovery of her body on Sunday night - (February 7).
(see below)

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http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache...amily+told+on+sunday&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca

February 08, 2010 12:18 p.m

A family friend, who did not want to be identified, told The Canadian Press earlier that Lloyd's family was told about the discovery of the woman's body on Sunday night.

The date in this article wasn't mentioned by the source. As I wrote before, most people will mistakenly refer to the hours before sunrise as "night". If you were to receive a phone call at 10 minutes after midnight, wouldn't you say you got it on Sunday night? I would. LE, on the other hand, will have carefully noted the date in their report and refer to any time after midnight as "Monday morning". Det. Insp. Nicholas mentions both Monday and February 8th, so I'm assuming that Jessica's remains were found sometime between midnight and daybreak on that day, as that is what would be in their official reports.

JMO

 

[pinkeyesucks]

I think that the family was told what the police knew at the time. The interview with RW went into the night. If I had to put money on it, it ended around 10 pm- you could call it a hunch, or you could call it nosey neighbour. I am sure that directions to the body would have been detailed somewhat in his statement. Now, knowing that it is black as your boot out in the boonies that time of night I can pretty much bet that while they knew approximately where it was they would not have tromped all over a crime scene in the middle of the night. That road is heavily wooded in sections, and the school bus drives it everyday, but not much else happens out there. But that is just my opinion, and my opinion tends not to be worth much.

 

[antiquegirl]

"A Changed community"... A changed sense of security. I have never thought about who was passing my house when I was putting out the garbage or getting in my car, but lately I feel eerie and suspicious even in broad daylight. Who is driving by and what are they looking at? Should I smile and say Thank-you to that person at Tim Horton's who held the door open for me? This monster attacked randomly, with no apparent connection. People in their most vulnerable state. In their own homes and asleep. How did he choose them. Did he just happen to hold a door open for them or drive by their house one day and decide they were his next victim? This whole thing is distressing and disturbing to alot of people, I think.

(BBM)

I'm convinced that there had to be at least some stalking going on before the victims were chosen. How else would he know that they would be alone? Marie had a boyfriend and one of the sexual assault victims was reported as being married, yet both were alone when he struck. Even if he followed Jessica home that night, he wouldn't know if a friend or relative of hers wouldn't be dropping by. That's why I think that not only did he have prior knowledge of her living alone, but that he waited until she was already in bed. I don't believe that he would have taken the chance of inadvertently running into someone else in the houses he entered.

Not much has been reported about Jessica's social life prior to her brutal murder. Did she have one or more long-term relationship? Did she often have friends over to her house? Did she keep predictable hours? Were there places she frequented on a regular basis? If RW was not watching her house, how would he know for sure that she hadn't brought a man or a friend home with her that night? I could be wrong, but I suspect there may have been prior communication between Jessica and RW at some point - if only a casual conversation where he could determine that she lived alone. Were we ever told where she was that evening?

JMO

 

[satchel]

It was my understanding that the family had been notified on Sunday night and that the body had been discovered on Monday morning. I'm sorry but I don't have the media links to back this information up. If this information is correct....it was my speculation that RW had confessed and that through his confession, he had informed LE to the location of the body. MOO

 

[nobodyzgirl]

The date in this article wasn't mentioned by the source. As I wrote before, most people will mistakenly refer to the hours before sunrise as "night". If you were to receive a phone call at 10 minutes after midnight, wouldn't you say you got it on Sunday night? I would. LE, on the other hand, will have carefully noted the date in their report and refer to any time after midnight as "Monday morning". Det. Insp. Nicholas mentions both Monday and February 8th, so I'm assuming that Jessica's remains were found sometime between midnight and daybreak on that day, as that is what would be in their official reports.

JMO

This is just MOO, though I think the confusion in the date is based on LE locating the remains on the 7th of February (likely like you said AG, hours before sunrise), contacted the family and mentioned they had found female remains and need someone to identify the body, which by the time a family member got ready and headed to the morgue, it would now be the 8th of February, which is why they use that date, once the remains are identified as being J. Lloyd.

 

[pjgrrrl]

Yes, the family knew Sunday.

 

[antiquegirl]

Yes, the family knew Sunday.

Knew what? That there had been an arrest or that Jessica's body had been found? And what time (approximately) on Sunday? Why would the OPP detective lie about a few hours? TIA

 

[Hazel]

I think that the family was told what the police knew at the time. The interview with RW went into the night. If I had to put money on it, it ended around 10 pm- you could call it a hunch, or you could call it nosey neighbour. I am sure that directions to the body would have been detailed somewhat in his statement. Now, knowing that it is black as your boot out in the boonies that time of night I can pretty much bet that while they knew approximately where it was they would not have tromped all over a crime scene in the middle of the night. That road is heavily wooded in sections, and the school bus drives it everyday, but not much else happens out there. But that is just my opinion, and my opinion tends not to be worth much.

Thanks pinkeyesucks; the reason I was asking this is because I checked Jessica's FB group in the early hours of Monday morning (can't remember exactly, maybe it was around 3 am), and the FB was gone. I was shocked at first, thinking that something must be going on, then I thought perhaps the administrators had been shutting down the FB page every night, so they could go rest.

 

[Hazel]

Police ramp up search at Williams' country home

Updated: Wed Feb. 17 2010 12:55:25 PM

** breaking news **

Police activity appears to be heating up at the Tweed, Ont. home of Col. Russell Williams, who is facing two first-degree murder charges.

Two large, white police trucks arrived late Wednesday morning at the lakefront property about 30 kilometres northeast of Belleville.

Another six cruisers and 20 OPP officers are also at the scene, up from about three cruisers earlier in the day.

On Tuesday, similar police activity could be seen at Williams' home in Ottawa's Westboro neighbourhood.

RS & BBM


http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20100217/williams_search_100217/20100217/?hub=TorontoNewHome

 

[Valleyboy]

Hi folks.
New poster here from Barrie Ont.

I have been following this case and others and impressed by
some of the info you people aquire.

I came across the following story that was posted on mix97 last week
and don't think anyone has posted it here yet.

It contains a picture but I don't know how to post a pic so I will
just post the link for the whole article.

The original artice was in The Contact back on Dec. 4th on page 5.

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http://www.mix97.com/news/2010/02/eerie-twist-in-cfb-trenton-murder/


Eerie Twist in CFB Trenton Murder
Posted on Thursday, February 11th, 2010

In an eerily ironic coincidence Colonel Russ Williams was being arrested the very day that OPP were investigating the murder of Corporal Marie France Comeau in Brighton. An article in “The Contact” shows a smiling Colonel Williams being arrested in a “jail and bail” fundraiser on November 25th. Comeau was found dead in her Raglan Street home by her boyfreind during the noon hour that day. Colonel William has been charged with her murder.

 

[Hazel]

Found nice size pictures of RW Tweed cottage, which clearly show THE BLACK STAR, so added those pictures to my post #121.

There are a few more pictures of the cottage at the link under the pictures. There are supposed to be 25 pictures in all, but first pictures don't show up, just click the arrow (next).

Here is the link to post #121: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4819173&postcount=121

Special request:
I'm still trying to find aerial images/pictures of the Tweed cottage, showing frozen Lake Stoco. Not sure if there are pictures or only video. If any of you come across any pictures, please post link(s) or pictures. Thanks!

 

[nobodyzgirl]

Hi folks.
New poster here from Barrie Ont.

I have been following this case and others and impressed by
some of the info you people aquire.

I came across the following story that was posted on mix97 last week
and don't think anyone has posted it here yet.

It contains a picture but I don't know how to post a pic so I will
just post the link for the whole article.

The original artice was in The Contact back on Dec. 4th on page 5.

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http://www.mix97.com/news/2010/02/eerie-twist-in-cfb-trenton-murder/


Eerie Twist in CFB Trenton Murder
Posted on Thursday, February 11th, 2010

In an eerily ironic coincidence Colonel Russ Williams was being arrested the very day that OPP were investigating the murder of Corporal Marie France Comeau in Brighton. An article in “The Contact” shows a smiling Colonel Williams being arrested in a “jail and bail” fundraiser on November 25th. Comeau was found dead in her Raglan Street home by her boyfreind during the noon hour that day. Colonel William has been charged with her murder.

Thanks for link and welcome Valleyboy

 

[Hazel]

Hi folks.
New poster here from Barrie Ont.

I have been following this case and others and impressed by
some of the info you people aquire.

I came across the following story that was posted on mix97 last week
and don't think anyone has posted it here yet.

It contains a picture but I don't know how to post a pic so I will
just post the link for the whole article.

The original artice was in The Contact back on Dec. 4th on page 5.

*****************************************************

http://www.mix97.com/news/2010/02/eerie-twist-in-cfb-trenton-murder/


Eerie Twist in CFB Trenton Murder
Posted on Thursday, February 11th, 2010

In an eerily ironic coincidence Colonel Russ Williams was being arrested the very day that OPP were investigating the murder of Corporal Marie France Comeau in Brighton. An article in “The Contact” shows a smiling Colonel Williams being arrested in a “jail and bail” fundraiser on November 25th. Comeau was found dead in her Raglan Street home by her boyfreind during the noon hour that day. Colonel William has been charged with her murder.

:Welcome-12-june: to WS Valleyboy!​

to post an image, right click ON the image, select PROPERTIES. Copy the image "address' or "location"
Then click on the Icon that says INSERT IMAGE ... it looks like this:

Paste the URL address of the Image you want to show there.
For some reason I can only do this when using QUOTE. I don't get the option to add Image nor Link if using "QUICK REPLY"
Hope this helps

 

[antiquegirl]

Found nice size pictures of RW Tweed cottage, which clearly show THE BLACK STAR, so added those pictures to my post #121.

There are a few more pictures of the cottage at the link under the pictures. There are supposed to be 25 pictures in all, but first pictures don't show up, just click the arrow (next).

Here is the link to post #121: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4819173&postcount=121

Special request:
I'm still trying to find aerial images/pictures of the Tweed cottage, showing frozen Lake Stoco. Not sure if there are pictures or only video. If any of you come across any pictures, please post link(s) or pictures. Thanks!

Thanks for the great pictures. However, I don't think that star is black. It looks more gold to me (zoom in and compare it to the black barbecue) and is possibly related to the military. Could SomeGirlOnTheNet please confirm or deny that this five-point star could be representative of a medal or badge assiciated with RW? TIA

 

[pjgrrrl]

Thanks for the great pictures. However, I don't think that star is black. It looks more gold to me (zoom in and compare it to the black barbecue) and is possibly related to the military. Could SomeGirlOnTheNet please confirm or deny that this five-point star could be representative of a medal or badge assiciated with WR? TIA

It looks to me to be a wrought iron type star, one you would see at a country craft store. It might be sprayed with a gold fleck, or topcoat, but is weathered. JMO. I have a similar one!

 

[Valleyboy]

Here is the picture (hopefully) I was trying to post in 170

Thanks Hazel

 

[Hazel]

Williams hires high-profile defence lawyer
Timothy Appleby
Globe and Mail Update
Published on Wednesday, Feb. 17, 2010 2:14PM EST
Last updated on Wednesday, Feb. 17, 2010 2:28PM EST

Colonel Russell Williams, the former Trenton military base commander now facing charges of murder and sexual assault, has retained high-profile Ottawa defence lawyer Michael Edelson.

Currently being held without bail at the Quinte detention centre near Napanee, Ont., Col. Williams has a court appearance scheduled for Thursday morning in Belleville.

He is to appear by video link at what is expected to be a brief hearing that will set another court date.

read more : http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/williams-hires-high-profile-defence-lawyer/article1471452/

:waitasec: don't know what to think

 

[flipflop]

Found nice size pictures of RW Tweed cottage, which clearly show THE BLACK STAR, so added those pictures to my post #121.

There are a few more pictures of the cottage at the link under the pictures. There are supposed to be 25 pictures in all, but first pictures don't show up, just click the arrow (next).

Here is the link to post #121: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4819173&postcount=121

Special request:
I'm still trying to find aerial images/pictures of the Tweed cottage, showing frozen Lake Stoco. Not sure if there are pictures or only video. If any of you come across any pictures, please post link(s) or pictures. Thanks!

Thanks for the pics, however, these Stars are a very popular item with home decor. Go into any home decor store and you will find them. I have seen several of these stars on houses, porches, sheds etc which come in a variety of colours. JMO I don't think it has any meaning further than a piece of art to decorate the exterior of the cottage.

 

[Hazel]

Thanks for the pics, however, these Stars are a very popular item with home decor. Go into any home decor store and you will find them. I have seen several of these stars on houses, porches, sheds etc which come in a variety of colours. JMO I don't think it has any meaning further than a piece of art to decorate the exterior of the cottage.

Thank you flipflop It's just that there is another small "dark" star (difficult to see the exact color) at the front door as well. Could be a burgundy Christmas decoration? I didn't think much about it when I first saw the picture, but when I read the article, then it made me think that there could be a meaning to it. If it is common to see these stars in houses in Tweed, then it's just that, decoration

 

[pinkeyesucks]

Thanks pinkeyesucks; the reason I was asking this is because I checked Jessica's FB group in the early hours of Monday morning (can't remember exactly, maybe it was around 3 am), and the FB was gone. I was shocked at first, thinking that something must be going on, then I thought perhaps the administrators had been shutting down the FB page every night, so they could go rest.

Yes, the Facebook group stopped allowing ANY posts, including discussion posts around 9 pm that night, which was very different than an average night up to that point- discussions remained open all night every night, but the wall shut down for the admins to get some time away. It had a very different feel than the typical shutdown. It was also around this time that there was in impromtu meeting at the corner of my street- with 4 cruisers and the undercover officer that lives across the street. I had no idea he was an officer until that night.

But that is just my opinion.