Found Deceased Canada - Mohd Abdullah, 60, univ professor, failed to show up @ work, Kamloops, 14 Mar 2022 *Arrest*

[katydid23]

That might be possible...but to me it's more likely, with lawyers and professors who are not desperate for money, but not millionaires either, that the death was unplanned, perhaps to try to cover up something like fraud. At least, that would be the plot in a detective novel.

The van appears to have been driven all over the region, yet was found back in Kamloops with remains still there...doesn't seem like a plan...

JMO

Yes, it certainly does not appear to be a very sound plan. Was he just overwhelmed and in a panic?

 

[katydid23]

this is just so bizarre
what lurks beneath the surface I wonder?

IKR. There must be quite a backstory.

 

[Satchie]

IKR. There must be quite a backstory.

Interesting to me that the victim lived and has a daughter in the Phillipines, and the lawyer's name is Filipino. So perhaps it was a connection made through the local Filipino community (which I imagine is quite small in Kamloops)

Just an observation, but many first generation immigrants keep their friendships/business dealings within their community of origin.

 

[evilwise]

Interesting to me that the victim lived and has a daughter in the Phillipines, and the lawyer's name is Filipino. So perhaps it was a connection made through the local Filipino community (which I imagine is quite small in Kamloops)

Just an observation, but many first generation immigrants keep their friendships/business dealings within their community of origin.

The posted article about his daughter (who has lived her whole life in the Philippines) strongly suggested that their relationship was very cultural.

I actually had forgotten about the extremely lethal drug war that President Duterte has been waging there even though it was a top interest of mind pre-pandemic. It's crazy how a person's priorities can change in actual crises - and apparently Duterte has taken advantage of that to crank it up into even higher gear the last couple years. I have to wonder if this might be related to that.

 

[bombardier]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/kamloops-murder-victim-family-1.6400446
I'm interested as to how they know that the van was previously driven all around... I'm guessing it passed by some traffic cameras that automatically noted the license plate? Or they have credit card statements that show gas/related purchases in all those small towns?
I don't understand the rationale for the random driving... it could be unrelated to the homicide/body disposal, and instead represent whatever was happening that lead to the homicide in the first place. Another darker thought is perhaps this is a dismemberment situation? and pieces were being strategically discarded.

 

[bombardier]

^ also, mark your calendars; next court appearance is April 21st.

 

[Satchie]

I'm interested as to how they know that the van was previously driven all around... I'm guessing it passed by some traffic cameras that automatically noted the license plate? Or they have credit card statements that show gas/related purchases in all those small towns?
I don't understand the rationale for the random driving... it could be unrelated to the homicide/body disposal, and instead represent whatever was happening that lead to the homicide in the first place. Another darker thought is perhaps this is a dismemberment situation? and pieces were being strategically discarded.

In the case of Shannon White, LE found photos of her vehicle on the same two routes as identified in this case, so I think it's reasonable to expect they have photos of this van leaving and returning on both routes.

Valemount is the farthest, 300 k away. I think you'd have to fill up at least once on the trip there and back. It's only 1 hour to Cache Creek, but then the route divides so the van could have gone further.

LE seem to have quickly identified the lawyer, with enough proof to charge him, so he left some obvious clues.

I'm guessing he'll do what lawyers always advise, and remain silent.

JMO

 

[MistyWaters]

I notice the RCMP has not said who rented the van and on what day, nor when it travelled to the various communities.

 

[airportwoman]

A bit of Googling revealed that British Columbia has a sizable Filipino minority, and enough people in Kamloops for them to have their own social club.

Filipino -Canadian Association of Kamloops

 

[YaYa_521]

I wonder who is Mr. Abdullah's next of kin police notified about his death? Is there an investigatory reason they haven't spoken to his daughter?

https://cfjctoday.com/2022/03/29/da...till-looking-for-answers-after-fathers-death/
Mar 29, 2022

SBM

However, they don’t anything beyond what’s been in the news. In fact, Lalata-Buco only found out about her father’s death through a friend in the Philippines who had seen the news from Kamloops.

[Snip]

Lalata-Buco hasn’t heard from police about the case and her calls to the Kamloops detachment have just been forwarded to voicemail. She reached out to Bagabuyo online asking what happened. She and her husband just want answers. “We are angry, we are mad, we are sad,” the couple said. “We can’t imagine how my dad was found dead. We can also imagine how was he killed? Was he strangled to death? Was he shot? Or was he beaten to death? We have no clue.”

 

[bombardier]

I wonder who is Mr. Abdullah's next of kin police notified about his death? Is there an investigatory reason they haven't spoken to his daughter?

Wonder if Sarah wasn't 'officially' connected to Mohd as a next-of-kin because he had her out of wedlock in the late 90s, and then left then a few years later to move back to the US, and didn't officially reconnect with Sarah until 2017. When the letters he was sending weren't reaching Sarah, he might of thought she and her mother wanted nothing to do with him.
Still though, now that RCMP knows that Mohd does have a daughter, they should keep her in the know!! It's BS that her inquiries are being ignored

 

[Satchie]

Wonder if Sarah wasn't 'officially' connected to Mohd as a next-of-kin because he had her out of wedlock in the late 90s, and then left then a few years later to move back to the US, and didn't officially reconnect with Sarah until 2017. When the letters he was sending weren't reaching Sarah, he might of thought she and her mother wanted nothing to do with him.
Still though, now that RCMP knows that Mohd does have a daughter, they should keep her in the know!! It's BS that her inquiries are being ignored

Just to point out that, in a murder investigation, police have to be careful what they say and to whom. That includes relatives, close or long lost. Also, depending on the will, there may need to be a paternity test to put forth a claim on the estate.

JMO

 

[bombardier]

bump
News has been quiet lately; I'm guessing we won't hear anything new until the suspect has his next court appearance on the 21st.

 

[CharadeYouAre]

Bagabuyo, lawyer, columnist, writes 30

By NITZ ARANCON Correspondent GOLD Star Daily columnist Rogelio “Butch” Bagabuyo died on Thursday night in a hospital in Manila. He was 75. Bagabuyo, a known lawyer in the city who once served as a senior special state prosecutor at the Department of Justice (DOJ), died of kidney failure. His...

mindanaogoldstardaily.com

This appears to be the suspect's father, apparently a lawyer, columnist, and political activist.

 

[Yemelyan]

Not really an update, but:

The city’s top cop is describing the investigation into the murder of Mohd Abdullah as “very complex” and “unprecedented,” due to a man charged in connection with the death being a practising lawyer.

Lecky spoke about progress of the investigation during a June 9 meeting with the city’s community services committee.

“That was, is and continues to be a very complex investigation, the likes of which we haven’t seen in this province, certainly not in this city, because the accused in this matter, as you know, is a practising lawyer who was charged and the complications that are related to that from the judicial services needs are significant, expensive and, needless to say, very complex,” Lecky told the committee, which includes three city councillors.

“This is an unprecedented investigation for us, but it is progressing very well.”

The article goes on to talk about how the investigation required LE to search crime scenes, including the law office of the accused, where people's potentially sensitive information was kept, and a judicial referee was appointed to look at the evidence unearthed to determine which parts of it were pertinent to the investigation and which parts were not. This included looking at the contents of digital storage devices, and more, and is very labor-intensive.

Error

 

[evilwise]

Not really an update, but:

The city’s top cop is describing the investigation into the murder of Mohd Abdullah as “very complex” and “unprecedented,” due to a man charged in connection with the death being a practising lawyer.

Lecky spoke about progress of the investigation during a June 9 meeting with the city’s community services committee.

“That was, is and continues to be a very complex investigation, the likes of which we haven’t seen in this province, certainly not in this city, because the accused in this matter, as you know, is a practising lawyer who was charged and the complications that are related to that from the judicial services needs are significant, expensive and, needless to say, very complex,” Lecky told the committee, which includes three city councillors.

“This is an unprecedented investigation for us, but it is progressing very well.”

The article goes on to talk about how the investigation required LE to search crime scenes, including the law office of the accused, where people's potentially sensitive information was kept, and a judicial referee was appointed to look at the evidence unearthed to determine which parts of it were pertinent to the investigation and which parts were not. This included looking at the contents of digital storage devices, and more, and is very labor-intensive.

Error

Wow I didn't even think about the legal implications of how the motive quite likely has something to do with one of his clients so his cases will obviously be evidence but he has other cases to whom he owes attorney client privilege and which could easily contain incriminating information in them but could not be entered into evidence in this case. In sure that does make the investigating complex but I'm glad they're investing in it. I like to see as much evidence as possible being discovered in cases of organized crime and this really smells like organized crime to me.

 

[MistyWaters]

Wow I didn't even think about the legal implications of how the motive quite likely has something to do with one of his clients so his cases will obviously be evidence but he has other cases to whom he owes attorney client privilege and which could easily contain incriminating information in them but could not be entered into evidence in this case. In sure that does make the investigating complex but I'm glad they're investing in it. I like to see as much evidence as possible being discovered in cases of organized crime and this really smells like organized crime to me.

And not always organized crime either, sometimes just a client who’s a tad bit unhinged who believes their lawyer wronged them.

I recall this tragic hit and run of a Toronto attorney.

“It shouldn’t be dangerous to work in the legal field.”

MANDEL: Woman accused of killing Toronto lawyer with rental truck denied bail

It shouldn't be dangerous to work in the legal field.

torontosun.com

 

[evilwise]

And not always organized crime either, sometimes just a client who’s a tad bit unhinged who believes their lawyer wronged them.

I recall this tragic hit and run of a Toronto attorney.

“It shouldn’t be dangerous to work in the legal field.”

MANDEL: Woman accused of killing Toronto lawyer with rental truck denied bail

It shouldn't be dangerous to work in the legal field.

torontosun.com

In this case the attorney is the perpetrator though, or at least the one accused of murder.

 

[MistyWaters]

In this case the attorney is the perpetrator though, or at least the one accused of murder.

Yes, you’re right, sorry my mistake, for some reason had the victim as a lawyer in my head.

 

[NeverPersonal]

LE seem to have quickly identified the lawyer, with enough proof to charge him, so he left some obvious clues.

I'm guessing he'll do what lawyers always advise, and remain silent.

JMO

well, i mean, he was found dead in a container in the attorney's vehicle...
or are you referencing how police knew to look there in the first place?