GUILTY Canada - Rori Hache, 18, pregnant, found deceased, Oshawa, Ont, 29 Aug 2017

[Jealoushe]

Walked by over lunch today. Forensics took a small chest freezer from the house and loaded it into one of the Forensics trucks and took it away.

Whoa

Just jumping off that idea - I can't imagine that the police would be allowed (by the Crown Attorney) to have plumbers (citizens) enter a crime scene to replace plumbing until they were 100% done and ready to release the scene back to the homeowner. Their warrant has several more days on it (I can't remember how many, but they were recently given thirty days). The risks of doing so would be enormous - possible contamination of the scene by the civilian plumbers, comes to mind!

Would they be allowed to bring in the plumbers as experts on where pipes are in the ground (eg: where to dig?) would they not have their own experts to do that sort of consult? Maybe they used the plumber to drop a camera down into the pipes for better visuals?

The only lines in the ground would be to the city sewer and water and for those they would have city workers.

My guess is they need some plumbing removed, that requires the skilled tradesmen to do.

 

[Grey-St]

This poor family. These poor investigators. Vicarious trauma is very real, and this is a particularly heinous case. Much thanks to everyone for the local updates.

 

[RPS33]

Wonder if that belonged to AS or if it was one that LE brought in themselves to better preserve (potential?) evidence? Can you tell us about the size and shape? Eg: deep rectangular or small square?

Oh and besides the size (see previous post), I can also comment on condition. It was old and filthy. Definitely did not belong to LE. Makes me think AS is a smoker.

 

[BUF]

Oh and besides the size (see previous post), I can also comment on condition. It was old and filthy. Definitely did not belong to LE. Makes me think AS is a smoker.

Thank you for all the updates.

That freezer gives me a creepy Jeffrey Dahmer feeling.

 

[photographer4]

FB profile for AS is no longer available - perhaps this means he took it down, or he has obtained counsel who removed it for him? It was available yesterday afternoon, so this is a recent development...

 

[Grey-St]

FB profile for AS is no longer available - perhaps this means he took it down, or he has obtained counsel who removed it for him? It was available yesterday afternoon, so this is a recent development...

Very interesting. I suspect that he used his phone privileges to let a friend access his account and take it down. That, or his legal aid went through, and his lawyer did it for him.

Well, it was good while it lasted...For sleuthing purposes.

 

[Tadpole12]

@ photographer4
How would AS be able to do that, access FB?
must be council?
Recent posts by public on AS's FB page
were threatening.

ooops reading subsequent posts.

@ St-Grey
that would be quite the phone a friend call

 

[Tadpole12]

Well, it was good while it lasted...For sleuthing purposes.

yes it certainly painted a repulsive picture
of character ....
'Hard Candy' or not.

 

[Tadpole12]

Street view, Sept 2017, minivan

https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.8975...4!1slB2qSGqtQ2Vw48A-1-fMsA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

 

[Tadpole12]

JP Tailoring, 15 McMillan Dr, Oshawa, ON

https://www.google.ca/maps/place/JP...758e212706719f!8m2!3d43.8972783!4d-78.8674781

 

[Inthedetails]

JP Tailoring, 15 McMillan Dr, Oshawa, ON

https://www.google.ca/maps/place/JP...758e212706719f!8m2!3d43.8972783!4d-78.8674781

What does this mean?

 

[Tadpole12]

Just looking for surveillance cameras and vehicles.

 

[photographer4]

@ photographer4
How would AS be able to do that, access FB?
must be council?
Recent posts by public on AS's FB page
were threatening.

ooops reading subsequent posts.

@ St-Grey
that would be quite the phone a friend call

I don’t believe he shut it down himself. I believe it’s mkre likely that the police obtained a warrant and took it over, or he obtained counsel and they shut it down. A third possibility is perhaps someone reported it to fb and they shut it down though I don’t think this is as likely as the first two possibilities. I doubt very much that he phoned a friend either.

 

[photographer4]

Just looking for surveillance cameras and vehicles.

Best bet for possible cameras would actually be the bank near his home and the shopping areas within walking distance to him. I don’t recall having seen any camera in the parking garage across from his home before though to be fair I wasn’t really on the lookout for them. The cars in driveways weren’t his. He didn’t drive as far as I know. Whether because he didn’t have a license or lacked access to a vehicle I do not know. But I believe he walked or biker almost everywhere, or took public transit.

 

[Grey-St]

I don’t believe he shut it down himself. I believe it’s mkre likely that the police obtained a warrant and took it over, or he obtained counsel and they shut it down. A third possibility is perhaps someone reported it to fb and they shut it down though I don’t think this is as likely as the first two possibilities. I doubt very much that he phoned a friend either.

What's so doubtful about him phoning a friend to take it down? There were a few folks defending him early on, there's likely someone who might have done him a favour. I think it's much less likely that LE took it down, they want it to stay up. All those ongoing interactions are vital. They certainly could have obtained a warrant to search his PM's, but the account would remain active.

I think the most plausible scenario is a lawyer did it, and as soon as possible. The less people in a jury pool that have seen that profile, the better, in their opinion.

 

[Tadpole12]

Oshawa Creek,
Bond St W near McMillan Dr

https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.8973...a1988OgxllvxyQSYnhnw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en


19 McMillan Dr to Oshawa Pier

https://www.google.ca/maps/dir/19+M...44ec1379!2m2!1d-78.8229994!2d43.8650695?hl=en

 

[RPS33]

Oshawa Creek,
Bond St W near McMillan Dr

https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.8973...a1988OgxllvxyQSYnhnw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

The whole section along the creek from King to around the walking bridge by the art gallery is a popular place for the Oshawa homeless and others to hang out. There is a methodone clininc not far away and of course they had the Tim's as well until recently (those poor Tim's employees had a rough go of it)

This article will give you an idea of the life of the homeless in Oshawa:

https://www.durhamregion.com/news-story/6938880-they-called-him-quiet-ken/

I also recall someone was found dead in the creek a few years ago. I haven't found a news reference for that yet but I'll keep digging.

Updated:

Actually there were 2 bodies from around the same time.

First this one in April 2008 farther down the creek:

https://www.durhamregion.com/news-story/3479495-man-s-body-found-in-oshawa-creek/

Then this one that I remember in May 2008 (ID'd as Sean Patrick O'Toole):

https://www.durhamregion.com/news-story/3478871-body-found-in-creek-in-downtown-oshawa/

[url]https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2008/05/12/body_found_in_oshawa_creek_identified.html

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[Tadpole12]

Thanks for posting the links
RPS33
The article on Quiet Ken hit me hard,
welled up.
"Wendy Smith. She said she’s seen a “common thread”
of self-loathing among those who wind up living rough."

 

[Tadpole12]

So, can it be considered that the human remains could have been disposed of
in the creek near AS's home?
eventually to be discovered down stream at the Pier?

 

[Tadpole12]

https://wateroffice.ec.gc.ca/google_map/google_map_e.html?search_type=province&province=ON

Real-Time Hydrometric Data Graph for OSHAWA CREEK AT OSHAWA (02HD008) [ON]

Modify Settings Date Parameters
2017-08-20
2017-12-31


Primary water level / Discharge
peak level = November


Graph,
https://wateroffice.ec.gc.ca/report...31&prm1=46&y1Max=&y1Min=&prm2=47&y2Max=&y2Min=