CARIIS
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I feel compelled however, to share, I was surprised to learn about the profound drug infestation in the area.
His direct employer had been holding special training sessions on fentanyl and other drugs in the area it would have to be a concern for a small area like that.
In general from what I have learned the other folks at the party have not been helpful in any meaningful way --
Often in tragedies like this many people will describe what the party was like etc -- it has been over a quarter of a year and to remain in the dark about how many people were there, when it started general tone of party etc etc etc - is somewhat concerning
This is not sprawling urban area basically looks like a house or two out in the middle of nowhere - an inability to know sequence of events in terms of departure of participants is somewhat befuddling.
The general notion I believe is that some unknown quantity of "friends" ( out in the middle of nowhere in what I assume is total silence) to lose someone in the middle of an empty open space is rather baffling.
i am not getting a sense , when below freezing at 2 in the morning that there are many people up and about in the streets adds to the oddity of the situation.
Just mo but seems really hard to "lose" a friend in the middle of nowhere.
From my understanding of it it was like he was departing right after them how can a group of friends "lose" another person in the middle of nowhere?
It would have to have been one huge party for there to be crowds in the street to lose someone no?
The general unwillingness , it appears, for participants to provide LE some detail IMO more likely indicates we might not be talking about some kids sharing some beer and chatting.
It is my understanding that they lived very close by which adds more peculiarity to the tragedy.
Does anyone know exactly (like miles) the party was from his residence.
It sounds like it was a clear night at the time of departure - is that correct ? That conjures up "silence". Buzzed folks are generally chatty (!) so losing him becomes more odd.
Walking in snow is noisy odder still.
Very small area -- the community would know about him vanishing quickly. In tragedy people talk. The media was there. One would think some info about the party itself would just be discovered by media by being there.
IMO this has more the feeling of being afraid to talk about anything at all. Kind of like of the Rhoden thing. If people are afraid to talk that has implications as well.
Then to have a possible gang sign involved the deafening silence becomes far more meaningful IMO.
They went to a rave before the party. My sense of a rave ( may be totally off here) is that it might be different than going for a cocktail somewhere.
I have never implied he was directly involved in anything but parties with some attendees possibly involved in gang activity could certainly mean that he got caught up in some horrible stuff just by being there
To then learn that this huge murderous gang is nearby is concerning.
To then learn that a huge bust occurred around 5 weeks earlier is concerning
To then discover that a violent home invasion occurred a couple of weeks before is also concerning.
To then discover some of the people involved in the above mentioned were in their early 20's is more concerning (peer stuff)
Gangs who have just been busted , jailed, while losing product tend be pretty pissed off
Who knows what might have transpired the poor kid might have not known anything about any of this and ended up a victim of the whole thing
At the same time , if one thinks about it what could be better than a ski lift for moving stuff -- the bar on the car has to be shut by staff - perfect transmission of goods -- pure speculation - again he might have nothing to do with anything but that is a perfect setting for quick dealing moo speculation only however
It was a group of coworkers -- if - unknown to him - coworkers were using the lift as a ways of moving stuff . Its perfect actually - slip money on one end - on the other end of the lift be given something. Visualize it. Speculation only tho
all just my notions and concerns
His direct employer had been holding special training sessions on fentanyl and other drugs in the area it would have to be a concern for a small area like that.
In general from what I have learned the other folks at the party have not been helpful in any meaningful way --
Often in tragedies like this many people will describe what the party was like etc -- it has been over a quarter of a year and to remain in the dark about how many people were there, when it started general tone of party etc etc etc - is somewhat concerning
This is not sprawling urban area basically looks like a house or two out in the middle of nowhere - an inability to know sequence of events in terms of departure of participants is somewhat befuddling.
The general notion I believe is that some unknown quantity of "friends" ( out in the middle of nowhere in what I assume is total silence) to lose someone in the middle of an empty open space is rather baffling.
i am not getting a sense , when below freezing at 2 in the morning that there are many people up and about in the streets adds to the oddity of the situation.
Just mo but seems really hard to "lose" a friend in the middle of nowhere.
From my understanding of it it was like he was departing right after them how can a group of friends "lose" another person in the middle of nowhere?
It would have to have been one huge party for there to be crowds in the street to lose someone no?
The general unwillingness , it appears, for participants to provide LE some detail IMO more likely indicates we might not be talking about some kids sharing some beer and chatting.
It is my understanding that they lived very close by which adds more peculiarity to the tragedy.
Does anyone know exactly (like miles) the party was from his residence.
It sounds like it was a clear night at the time of departure - is that correct ? That conjures up "silence". Buzzed folks are generally chatty (!) so losing him becomes more odd.
Walking in snow is noisy odder still.
Very small area -- the community would know about him vanishing quickly. In tragedy people talk. The media was there. One would think some info about the party itself would just be discovered by media by being there.
IMO this has more the feeling of being afraid to talk about anything at all. Kind of like of the Rhoden thing. If people are afraid to talk that has implications as well.
Then to have a possible gang sign involved the deafening silence becomes far more meaningful IMO.
They went to a rave before the party. My sense of a rave ( may be totally off here) is that it might be different than going for a cocktail somewhere.
I have never implied he was directly involved in anything but parties with some attendees possibly involved in gang activity could certainly mean that he got caught up in some horrible stuff just by being there
To then learn that this huge murderous gang is nearby is concerning.
To then learn that a huge bust occurred around 5 weeks earlier is concerning
To then discover that a violent home invasion occurred a couple of weeks before is also concerning.
To then discover some of the people involved in the above mentioned were in their early 20's is more concerning (peer stuff)
Gangs who have just been busted , jailed, while losing product tend be pretty pissed off
Who knows what might have transpired the poor kid might have not known anything about any of this and ended up a victim of the whole thing
At the same time , if one thinks about it what could be better than a ski lift for moving stuff -- the bar on the car has to be shut by staff - perfect transmission of goods -- pure speculation - again he might have nothing to do with anything but that is a perfect setting for quick dealing moo speculation only however
It was a group of coworkers -- if - unknown to him - coworkers were using the lift as a ways of moving stuff . Its perfect actually - slip money on one end - on the other end of the lift be given something. Visualize it. Speculation only tho
all just my notions and concerns
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