Found Deceased Canada - Shannon Burgess, 25, Calgary, 26 Nov 2014 - #1 *Arrest*

Status
Not open for further replies.
  • #501
The family whose profiles we can see on FB are plastered in Shannon's photo/missing info to spread the word and get the info out there to the masses of social media.

I wish we could see JB's profile, I'm curious if he's frantic with worry where his wife is and if he's sharing and using social media to his advantage or if he's being quiet. I wonder if he's roaming the streets looking for her, calling her friends and trying to find his wife or not. If anything happened to someone I loved even if we were estranged - I'd be out there hunting high and low.
 
  • #502
Agreed. Her computer could be a source of important information. It is hard to know what her online dealings may have been without knowing her character or personal life.

Whether it was the husband, an old friend, a hook up, or a grab off the street, it appears likely the event triggering the disappearance began close to home.

As far as deliberately heading to Vancouver or Toronto... This is unlikely.. It is also unlikely someone from either City would have come all the way to Calgary to kidnap her. Much easier to accomplish this in either of those Cities.
 
  • #503
If SB had her wallet and keys with her, but not her vehicle nor her cellphone.. to me, that suggests someone was picking her up, or she was walking, or taking a cab to a nightspot somewhere.. and that her phone was likely dead. I wonder if LE can determine the last time it was 'dead', after it becomes charged? I wonder if it was left charging, or if just simply left sitting there doing nothing, even that would tell us more. So she took her keys to get back into the house after leaving it, and her wallet to pay for.... whatever she would be consuming while she was out, or cab fare, or whatever. That cellphone and computer will surely reveal a lot for LE?? Also, I wonder if JB can say whether the door to the home was locked after she left or was it left unlocked? Did he go to bed after seeing her at 12;30am? Did he hear her leave? Did he hear a car arrive to pick her up? Did LE do a forensics exam on the home? Also, the clothes she was wearing.. she could have changed from the time when JB last saw her, if he had gone to bed, and she had decided to go out on the town? It is possible that she could even have reappeared at the home while JB was at work either on the Thursday or the Friday. She could have potentially not gone 'missing' until later than we think? That phone should carry so much information! And computer too!
 
  • #504
Hey sleuthers! Super new to the thread but I have been researching this case like mad. I think I might have a new piece to this puzzle. I'm not sure if its important but it does seem like she was cast in a production that was participating in the 8th Annual 100 hour film race. The text and link below:

'This is for the 8th Annual 100 Hour Film Race. We need an actress asap, as the actress cast to play the part is now missing. We are looking for a female mid 20's. The show must go on.... please spread the word. Thank you! Attachment UnavailableThis attachment may have been removed or the person who shared it may not have permission to share it with you.'

http://www.socialhelpers.tv/news-feed/
Was this the casting she was going to Edmonton for? Sorry if someone else brought this up!
 
  • #505
Yes, definitely agree that appearances mean absolutely nothing. However, I am *personally* getting an image of him as being the perhaps introverted type, kind of shy, and likely head over heels.. falls for this very outgoing and vivacious young woman, exactly the opposite of him, and suddenly his perhaps rather mundane, government worker life, becomes exciting, busy, and involving living with a beautiful young woman. I could see him being so smitten with her, and perhaps her choosing him because he was in love with her and good to her.. but then perhaps becoming bored. Who knows what some quieter types might do when, after getting a taste of the 'high life', are faced with 'mundane' once again? OTOH, he could be completely out of her picture really, if what MSM reported about them being 'separated' is true, even though still living together, and going through a 'messy divorce'? I just don't get why if that were true however, the family wouldn't have mentioned it, or the police.

If they *were* in fact separated and yet still living in the same home, I would assume that each would be living their own life without including the other in the fine details of where they are going, with whom, and when they will be back, etc. So while JB may have been the last person known to have seen her at 12;30am on November 27th, he could have then retired for the night and not know anything further. If they are apart, they are likely habitating in separate rooms and perhaps he would have no knowledge of what was in there, including her phone. It could have been dead, and she decided to go out partying, and left it at home knowing it wasn't going to work anyway, so left it charging, expecting to return. Unfortunately we don't know those details.

Someone could have picked her up at the house..... and nobody would be any the wiser, if in fact they *were* apart. So say JB then went to work as usual on that Thursday.. didn't see her on the Thursday, which, if separated, perhaps was nothing strange for him. Then he goes to work as usual again on Friday, comes home to nothingness which is again, perhaps nothing strange for him if they were apart. Then.. the weekend, which again, she had plans apparently in Edmonton.. and he wouldnt' necessarily know whether she showed up or not, what she took, what she was wearing, or that she had left her phone. Then on the Monday, the sister calls his cellphone to enquire about SB's whereabouts, so he goes home to see if she is there yet, and she's not, so he returns the call saying so. It could be all very innocent on his end, and he also wouldn't know whether, from the Thursday at 12;30am, through to the Monday when he heard from the sister, SB had in fact been in contact with any of her family or friends during that period or not, and whether it was only perhaps him who was left out in the cold as far as what she was up to. That is one of the big problems with people who 'separate' and yet remain living together.. they live together and yet they are separate lives and neither one has to answer to the other about anything. Seems so unfair, I don't know why anyone would agree to such an arrangement. MOO of course! Perhaps this is how they lived even when they *were* still together as a couple.. she was sleepless and energetic and outgoing, and he needed regular sleep to attend his regular job. They could have lived very separate lives even then.

Personally I do not believe she is alive either, but there are too many details that we don't know, in my opinion, to base an opinion as to who could be responsible. The 'ex' seems to be left holding the bag though, and would, I think, be the most obvious for police to follow up with. I wonder if her dog is still at the matrimonial home. I also wonder about previous 'flames', as mentioned by another poster. Hopefully LE has her computer wherein much might be found in the way of communications and perhaps plans with others.

I think of the sad story of Dorothy Stratten who shot to fame as a Playboy bunny and her seedy, pimping type boyfriend who got overwhelmed with jealousy of her new LA/celebrity filled lifestyle (that he in a sense helped her achieve), and he murdered her when she wanted a divorce. She was from Vancouver. Possessiveness, anger and jealousy are a bad combo.

A very different scenario from this case, but I think the humiliation and the jilt of some spouses who may ride on the coattails of a more successful spouse can cause a case of 'if I can't have you, no one can have you'. But then again, maybe JB isn't caught up in the excitement of actors or the scene, maybe he likes a quieter existence and is very grounded.
 
  • #506
I don't know.. since we don't know the circumstances of their most current relationship.. he could be hurting so bad, because she had 'dumped' him, and then having to still live with her and see her perhaps flitting about, and whereabouts unknown.. and then this happened.. it might be somewhat of a feeling of , 'hmm look what happened, should've stuck with me'.. MOO.. there are many phases of grief, I guess depending perhaps on what the relationship status was at the time?

The family whose profiles we can see on FB are plastered in Shannon's photo/missing info to spread the word and get the info out there to the masses of social media.

I wish we could see JB's profile, I'm curious if he's frantic with worry where his wife is and if he's sharing and using social media to his advantage or if he's being quiet. I wonder if he's roaming the streets looking for her, calling her friends and trying to find his wife or not. If anything happened to someone I loved even if we were estranged - I'd be out there hunting high and low.
 
  • #507
Hey sleuthers! Super new to the thread but I have been researching this case like mad. I think I might have a new piece to this puzzle. I'm not sure if its important but it does seem like she was cast in a production that was participating in the 8th Annual 100 hour film race. The text and link below:

'This is for the 8th Annual 100 Hour Film Race. We need an actress asap, as the actress cast to play the part is now missing. We are looking for a female mid 20's. The show must go on.... please spread the word. Thank you! Attachment UnavailableThis attachment may have been removed or the person who shared it may not have permission to share it with you.'

http://www.socialhelpers.tv/news-feed/
Was this the casting she was going to Edmonton for? Sorry if someone else brought this up!

Welcome to Ws melbot1000!
Thanks for the interesting tidbit, thinking of it now, was Shannon trying to dodge some commitments by disappearing?
 
  • #508
I personally don't feel his appearance is fooling, more so the opposite for me.

As for her meeting someone she could have left her phone and let the other person pay for everything? Or drove with someone who paid all the gas? I know it seems out there, but I don't feel it's impossible, and the possibility of her being diseased is pretty high... I agree.

MOO
Here are my thoughts if SB has left the city on her own free will...

I know it has not been verified where she worked and if she had a full time job but I suspect if she did it would be in the service industry. I.e. night-club, pub, restaurant, etc. My point being that when you work in that setting the tips are your bread and butter and they are collected at the end of each shift in case and so she would not need to deposit it into a bank account and would have more funds just thru tips over the potential of minimum wage. Servers can make hundreds of dollars in tips a night. I think if she needed cash and planned a departure she was holding onto her tip money to do so.

I also think she could have ditched her phone and bought a pay-as-you-go. She may have left with someone else or took a bus or plane. If she rented a car under her name she would have needed a credit card. I wonder if these avenues have been investigated and ruled out.

I still wonder if she truly made it home from Edmonton, maybe she stayed.
 
  • #509
According to her ex she did make it home from Edmonton. Given your theory, my question would be how would you account for her not contacting her family or Police to let them know she's is ok.

Also, would the ownership or management of these establishments or possibly even a coworker also not contact police to confirm shannon is safe. Even if she was working in the shadiest of places with the shadiest people, they would want her to contact the authorities to take the heat off. Organized criminals are concerned about money and going under the radar. They are essentially business people and would not risk the attention someone like Shannon would bring. There are many other fish in the sea for these types. Maybe not so much for her ex! It has been covered extensively and she likely would have been seen by now.

Although these theories do provide some hope, I think they are highly unlikely.
 
  • #510
According to her ex she did make it home from Edmonton. Given your theory, my question would be how would you account for her not contacting her family or Police to let them know she's is ok.

Also, would the ownership or management of these establishments or possibly even a coworker also not contact police to confirm shannon is safe. Even if she was working in the shadiest of places with the shadiest people, they would want her to contact the authorities to take the heat off. Organized criminals are concerned about money and going under the radar. They are essentially business people and would not risk the attention someone like Shannon would bring. There are many other fish in the sea for these types. Maybe not so much for her ex! It has been covered extensively and she likely would have been seen by now.

Although these theories do provide some hope, I think they are highly unlikely.

My comments about her working and saving her tips was meant for past tense. I highly doubt she would be working in a public venue at this moment. If she was I would agree that someone would have recognized her from the media reports and call her on it or alert authorities.

I think the Edmonton trip and her business there would need to be 100% verified in order to confirm her trip home and I would hope LE has more confirmation than from an ex husband. I am not so sure they would explain or elaborate the details or the confirmation of her timeline during that trip to the public or even the family for that matter.
 
  • #511
I was thinking along the lines of LoisLane's theory if it does happen that she left on her own will.

I would say there could be reasons she is not contacting her family if this is the case, weather it is pressure about her ex, or feeling like she would be pressured into coming back, to just not thinking about that and being out and careless (maybe for once in her life).

I think that if she did have a service job and was collecting tips and had some cash, that she is no longer working there or showing up for work.
 
  • #512
I just don't think, MOO, that SB would have done this, for this long, at this time of year, without at least contacting whomever she was closest to in her family, if not her 'ex' who lived in the same house, and who would presumably be looking after her dog in her absence. Pet owners normally care enough about their pet to at least ensure said pet would be well taken care of in an extended absence. We might all like to be careless at some point in our adult life just for fun or whatever other reason, but who would really do that to their family and pet? I'm sure that if she wanted to keep a secret from her ex as to her whereabouts for whatever reason, she could have entrusted someone in her family to not tell him, but just to let people know that she is safe. Or if not a close family member, then a close friend who could relay that she is safe.

Earlier when it was a little bit discussed about mental status, perhaps she has some bi-polar going on.. which could perhaps explain the whirlwind plan to marry someone 2 days after announcing on FB, which the partner knew apparently nothing about until then. She could have been on the upside, thinking she was invincible, and just took a risk involving some unknown person that turned out badly.

It scares me to think of her parents and all parents, for we worry so much about our little ones, to keep them safe and healthy and strong to a grown-up age in adulthood, but.. it really never ends, does it?
 
  • #513
wallet and keys missing.. If i was trying to cover up 'something bad' happening to her then its easy to lead the focus of investigation away from me by saying that her wallet and keys are missing, she must have taken off somewhere. KWIM? I dont think she is in Toronto or anywhere other than close to where she lives sadly. JMO

ETA: if she was considering suicide I doubt she would bring her keys and wallet along.
 
  • #514
If it were me.... I think I would also stick in the purse (that is if she normally carried one, which most women do).. and definitely the cellphone, even if it was dead, and turn it off, of course, leaving no prints.. hopefully LE will check her vehicle to see if something had been tampered with in regard to her FB post, and with any luck, perhaps they could get some prints too. Hope they've contact all the taxi companies to see if there was a call at all from that address to be picked up?

wallet and keys missing.. If i was trying to cover up 'something bad' happening to her then its easy to lead the focus of investigation away from me by saying that her wallet and keys are missing, she must have taken off somewhere. KWIM? I dont think she is in Toronto or anywhere other than close to where she lives sadly. JMO

ETA: if she was considering suicide I doubt she would bring her keys and wallet along.
 
  • #515
totally agree.. the entire purse and cell phone if 'he' knew what he was doing. ;)

If it were me.... I think I would also stick in the purse (that is if she normally carried one, which most women do).. and definitely the cellphone, even if it was dead, and turn it off, of course, leaving no prints.. hopefully LE will check her vehicle to see if something had been tampered with in regard to her FB post, and with any luck, perhaps they could get some prints too. Hope they've contact all the taxi companies to see if there was a call at all from that address to be picked up?
 
  • #516
Shannon`s family must be desperate with worry , considering she has been missing for over 2 weeks now.
The possibility that she may be in another city, for whatever reason, might be a small comfort, at this time.
They must be pleased to see that media is spreading the word, even as they brace for potentially bad news, imo.

Well said! The family is very likely bracing for bad news. I suspect that they've been bracing for it since Monday a week ago, when the husband finally communicated that Shannon had not been seen for five days.
 
  • #517
Hey sleuthers! Super new to the thread but I have been researching this case like mad. I think I might have a new piece to this puzzle. I'm not sure if its important but it does seem like she was cast in a production that was participating in the 8th Annual 100 hour film race. The text and link below:

'This is for the 8th Annual 100 Hour Film Race. We need an actress asap, as the actress cast to play the part is now missing. We are looking for a female mid 20's. The show must go on.... please spread the word. Thank you! Attachment UnavailableThis attachment may have been removed or the person who shared it may not have permission to share it with you.'

http://www.socialhelpers.tv/news-feed/
Was this the casting she was going to Edmonton for? Sorry if someone else brought this up!

That definitely sounds like Shannon, so that means she got the part for the Edmonton 100 hour film shoot. That fact contributes to the belief that she was happy, busy, active, had a successful career, and that there was no reason for her to voluntarily disappear.

http://www.filmracing.com/100/100hourfilmrace2014.htm
 
  • #518
  • #519
That definitely sounds like Shannon, so that means she got the part for the Edmonton 100 hour film shoot. That fact contributes to the belief that she was happy, busy, active, had a successful career, and that there was no reason for her to voluntarily disappear.

http://www.filmracing.com/100/100hourfilmrace2014.htm
The 100 hour film shoot appears to be a small, independent contest for amateurs. It's most likely not high profile, not very profitable, and not considered a big deal on one's resume.

Chances are, most of the casts and crews are volunteers. It could also be interpreted as a step down from a successful career, and not necessarily something to be excited about, but something to potentially be depressed about.

Too hard to read anything into it either way.
 
  • #520
The 100 hour film shoot appears to be a small, independent contest for amateurs. It's most likely not high profile, not very profitable, and not considered a big deal on one's resume.

Chances are, most of the casts and crews are volunteers. It could also be interpreted as a step down from a successful career, and not necessarily something to be excited about, but something to potentially be depressed about.

Too hard to read anything into it either way.

People from all parts of the US were participating in the competition. What about the competition makes it seem small, or insignificant?
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Members online

Online statistics

Members online
126
Guests online
2,579
Total visitors
2,705

Forum statistics

Threads
632,085
Messages
18,621,816
Members
243,017
Latest member
thaines
Back
Top