Found Deceased Canada - Shannon Burgess, 25, Calgary, 26 Nov 2014 - #1 *Arrest*

[OutOfTheDarkness]

Isn't it possible that for Shannon and her biological family and *close* friends, it is out of character for her to disappear without contacting any of them.... while at the same time, since she is separated from JB, it could be quite common for her to not bother sharing her plans and whereabouts with him, keeping him out of the loop, with her not wanting to feel 'controlled', and he would be none the wiser as to whether she was uncharacteristically not in contact with her family and friends? To me it makes sense.

Because they are separated, it all makes sense. If they were not separated, none of it would make sense and he would definitely be under suspicion for not letting anyone know he hadn't heard from her in days. But if it were a common occurrence recently because of their marital status, how can he be held responsible for her not sharing her plans with him, as most people with consideration would do if they resided within the same household?

I doubt if JB was playing the 'let's only live in the house one at a time' game, because while it might be simple for SB to find a couch to crash on in Calgary or Edmonton at her fellow aspiring actors' places, it isn't usually something a regular, everyday, steady-job type of person would want to be involved in, IMHO.

Personally, at this point I can't help feeling a little bad for JB because I have heard of these 'let's separate and lead separate lives, but still live in the same house' type of deals, and it seems to me that the person wanting to leave, is the one that usually wants to remain: 'I'm leaving you, but I'll still live in the same house, and we'll lead our separate lives and I'll do whatever I feel like doing, and therefore make life hell for you, while still being able to keep my eye on what YOU'RE doing.' Ugh! Who would agree to that? That opinion is based on personally knowing people who have done exactly that type of arrangement, and other people who have wanted to do that, but where the one 'being left' has said, 'no I don't think so, if you're leaving, then just leave'.

Yes... since they get along "quite well", that's the mixed messages part.

Were it my family member missing, I would be all over the internet enlisting help, putting pressure on anyone I suspected was involved, and doing everything humanly possible to find them.

 

[deugirtni]

Thank you, I didn't see that.. that is a good enough explanation now. So how many days wasted with *that* little interlude? None I hope (on LE's end)!

Apparently, the pictures were part of an art project:

"The artists did proactively came forward to us and provided the information about their project. They were very apologetic and understood that it has caused a great
deal of concern." - CPS

- From the CPS FB Comment section.

 

[deugirtni]

The question that SB asked on her FB post was:
"And then the brakes on my car went to ****... Starting to wonder who I pissed off enough to curse me"
to which DL posted that name of Aengus. And you're right, it seems she was replying to that with her other comment.
It seems that DL is in fact 'Aengus'.... and further.. that there would be little reason for JB to be jealous of this fellow (DL's FB isn't completely blank), and I found him ID'd over on the Alliance site as screenname Aengus)

http://www.babynamesofireland.com/aengus
Note the post above SB 's last post.Why did DL just randomly post the name Aengus.It seems that SB was replying to this......? The poster of this comment has a " blank" Facebook page.

 

[jillybean51]

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The question that SB asked on her FB post was:
"And then the brakes on my car went to ****... Starting to wonder who I pissed off enough to curse me"
to which DL posted that name of Aengus. And you're right, it seems she was replying to that with her other comment.
It seems that DL is in fact 'Aengus'.... and further.. that there would be little reason for JB to be jealous of this fellow (DL's FB isn't completely blank), and I found him ID'd over on the Alliance site as screenname Aengus)

Ok,I see what you mean....no need to be jealous....:blushing:

 

[Micheline]

I have the feeling Shannon does not want to be found at this point, and the police and family being aware of it.

All of them (including the police) stressing nobody is angry with her, that she isn't in any kind of trouble, if she just let them know etc. I never heard this in a missing person's case, maybe others have.

 

[OutOfTheDarkness]

I have the feeling Shannon does not want to be found at this point, and the police and family being aware of it.

All of them (including the police) stressing nobody is angry with her, that she isn't in any kind of trouble, if she just let them know etc. I never heard this in a missing person's case, maybe others have.

Agreed. The sister was seriously downplaying the significance of the pictures. Some say "in denial". Perhaps...

LE did respond in numbers to some pictures though, so they are obviously prepared to believe she met with foul play.

 

[LoisLane]

I am curious how JB is dealing with this situation. Imagine the stress of being under the microscope by LE, friends, family, co-workers, employers, peers, extra-curricular groups, etc.. If he did or if he didn't play a part in SB's disappearance this would be such a devastating time for him on top of the fact that his ex-wife is still missing.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

The question that SB asked on her FB post was:
"And then the brakes on my car went to ****... Starting to wonder who I pissed off enough to curse me"
to which DL posted that name of Aengus. And you're right, it seems she was replying to that with her other comment.
It seems that DL is in fact 'Aengus'.... and further.. that there would be little reason for JB to be jealous of this fellow (DL's FB isn't completely blank), and I found him ID'd over on the Alliance site as screenname Aengus)

Good find! So DL is Aengus in LARP/Alliance. So maybe her and him had a fictitious fling in the LARPLand character storyline? So they could be theatre/LARP buddies.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

I have the feeling Shannon does not want to be found at this point, and the police and family being aware of it.

All of them (including the police) stressing nobody is angry with her, that she isn't in any kind of trouble, if she just let them know etc. I never heard this in a missing person's case, maybe others have.

I would've been more open to this early on, but if LE did in fact know or believe she didn't want to be found would they have called in S&R, cadaver dogs, etc. to the park?

I get they have to follow every lead and have protocols and had to search the park - but over artsy photos? That was a pretty broad move to call in all the troops for 2 photos! My feeling is, the only way LE can classify this case as someone not wanting to be found is if they hear it straight from the horse's mouth (SB) and they cannot assume this even though the family might.

 

[deugirtni]

And add to that, also the season.. what an awful time for this to have occurred.

I am curious how JB is dealing with this situation. Imagine the stress of being under the microscope by LE, friends, family, co-workers, employers, peers, extra-curricular groups, etc.. If he did or if he didn't play a part in SB's disappearance this would be such a devastating time for him on top of the fact that his ex-wife is still missing.

 

[deugirtni]

To me it seems the family (or at least the sister) is downplaying/in denial about how this is really looking right now, and to me, they just want to get it across to her, if she might be listening or something, that although she is an adult and entitled to just take off without sharing details with anyone, police are asking her to contact them.. and not because she is in any trouble, but just so everyone knows that she is safe. I wonder if 'they' (whoever in the family that might be) might wonder if SB would be afraid now to contact LE if she thought she were in trouble on top of wanting to keep her status private, and so they just want to make that abundantly clear to her? Seems silly, but.. who knows what might go through people's heads if they are kind of 'wanted' by police, in a way.

I have the feeling Shannon does not want to be found at this point, and the police and family being aware of it.

All of them (including the police) stressing nobody is angry with her, that she isn't in any kind of trouble, if she just let them know etc. I never heard this in a missing person's case, maybe others have.

 

[dennisfedak81]

So tragic. It's not a wonder her family is in denial. At this point it's anyone's guess if or when Shannon will be recovered. Hopefully cps can determine the perpetrator of this. Was originally convinced it was the husband. Now not so sure.

 

[deugirtni]

'These days' it just seems like if someone might happen to let her guard down, there are weirdos and perps just waiting in the wings to take advantage of that somehow. Serial killers, rapists, pedophiles just waiting for their next opportunity. It is weird though, that SB has not yet been found, isn't it? It has been so long now, 3 weeks earlier today. I wonder which 'tips' led police to consider Toronto and/or Vancouver? No local searches have even taken place yet, other than in Fish Creek Park? And no forensic exams done on vehicles or home? Hmm, no wonder they're not really having much success in finding her? Hopefully LE asked local merchants for their video recordings?

 

[dennisfedak81]

Good point. Makes me wonder if they are taking the path of least resistance and just responding to leads or if they are out there attempting to generate some. Naturally there is alot going on behind the scenes we don't know about. I wonder sometimes if it's a resource issue and a reluctance to dedicate them to a particular case? May be easier just to assume she bailed and tell her to contact the nearest authority. I believe this is not possible for her at this time.

 

[dotr]

One case here, involved a man loved by his large family, had a steady job, was a responsible person, ect, when apparently out of the blue, he went missing.
By chance, he was spotted hanging around in another province and living rough, by choice. He did not want to go home and no one had the authority to make him do so.
At least now, his family knows what happened to him.

A sudden " flick of the switch ' mentally, emotionally or physically, perhaps sparked by a substance problem, a pregnancy, or other undiagnosed condition and who knows what a person might do seemingly without regard for themselves, or those who love them ? jmo.

 

[deugirtni]

Just asking ... my gmail went down earlier and seems like gmail itself has crashed.. when I go to just 'gmail.com' I get this message quoted below. Is it just 'my computer' or is something up with gmail itself? Thanks for any feedback!

404. That’s an error.

The requested URL /intl/en/mail/help/about.html was not found on this server. That’s all we know.

 

[deugirtni]

That is so sad when men do that. I can even see how some men might want to do that.. if they have a mundane job, a bunch of kids to support and a wife that stays home to rear them.. and a lot of bills.. I can understand how it could become completely overwhelming, and how some might choose 'running' instead of 'dealing'. But with SB, it seems so different.. sounds like no real responsibilities to live up to in life.. a very supportive family.. lots of friends.. outlets for playacting, humor, dressing up, becoming someone else for a day, freedom.. just doesn't sound like she had a lot to run from, but what do *we* know?

One case here, involved a man loved by his large family, had a steady job, was a responsible person, ect, when apparently out of the blue, he went missing.
By chance, he was spotted hanging around in another province and living rough, by choice. He did not want to go home and no one had the authority to make him do so.
At least now, his family knows what happened to him.

A sudden " flick of the switch ' mentally, emotionally or physically, perhaps sparked by a substance problem, a pregnancy, or other undiagnosed condition and who knows what a person might do seemingly without regard for themselves, or those who love them ? jmo.

 

[dennisfedak81]

Has there been any comment on Shannon's personal lifestyle? Was she conservative or a little more liberal with dating and sexuality. Was she a one man woman, someone experimenting or open minded. Was she into open relationships, swinging, s&m, hook ups?, group sex? Has any info come out? I'm just trying to get a feel for her lifestyle here. Wondering if she would have been into any activities that may have been a little more risky in nature or left her more exposed. I would also like to know if she was into the drug or party scene at all? We have been presented an innocent and clean image in the media. I wonder how accurate this is?

 

[Lalalacasbah]

Just asking ... my gmail went down earlier and seems like gmail itself has crashed.. when I go to just 'gmail.com' I get this message quoted below. Is it just 'my computer' or is something up with gmail itself? Thanks for any feedback!

I can get to the Gmail.com page, no error message. I haven't logged into my mail (haven't for eons, never use it), but I have the option to. So not sure why yours isn't?!

 

[Lalalacasbah]

That is so sad when men do that. I can even see how some men might want to do that.. if they have a mundane job, a bunch of kids to support and a wife that stays home to rear them.. and a lot of bills.. I can understand how it could become completely overwhelming, and how some might choose 'running' instead of 'dealing'. But with SB, it seems so different.. sounds like no real responsibilities to live up to in life.. a very supportive family.. lots of friends.. outlets for playacting, humor, dressing up, becoming someone else for a day, freedom.. just doesn't sound like she had a lot to run from, but what do *we* know?

Agreed, it doesn't seem she had too many heavy duty responsibilities.

Maybe it was emotional stress or something she felt overwhelmed by, that can make people unravel mentally or give them panic/anxiety attacks if they reach their breaking point. But from what we know right before she disappeared…she went to an audition, seemed in good, jovial, joking spirits on her FB and had plans…doesn't sound like she was unravelling.

But like you say, what do we *really* know? I hope we find out, where is Shannon????