Found Deceased Canada - Shannon Burgess, 25, Calgary, 26 Nov 2014 - #1 *Arrest*

[dennisfedak81]

Ok. But the issue with this theory is who is funding her. <mod snip>

<mod snip> my point is she hasn't used her bank account. Someone must be looking after her living expenses. Is there any evidence of travel on her part? Perhaps some producer drove all the way to Calgary to pick her up and they drove to Toronto or Van. Perhaps she walked there? I'm sure the police are following up on this trail.

I highly doubt any young woman who is of sound mind would leave with no belongings, money, or even a cell phone and then break all ties with her family and friends. And even leave her dog behind. This is ludicrous!

I would not want to take hope away from anyone but if Shannon is still alive she is likely in distress and in the Calgary area. To find her would be the best outcome. But the search has to focus on local possibilities.

 

[pittie_mcclure]

It is precisely in the mid 20s, when the high school drama class actors, and would be rock stars who have pursued their dreams, begin to realize that they have not made the quick trip to stardom. It begins to set in that what they have been doing for the last 7 to 10 years doesn't pay very well, and they have nothing to show for their efforts.

It is not out of the realm of possibility, that after possibly accepting a role in a 5 minute film, for no money, made for a contest open to anyone with internet access and a camera, then coming home to your estranged partner that you still live with... that one would have a WTF moment... and need a break.

I am not saying that's what happened. It's just plausible. The fact LE named specifically Toronto and Vancouver as possible leads hints that there is more to this story.

Ok I have to agree with this totally. This is a different world for us growing up when the world was financially collapsing. By 25 my friends and I were already in career panic mode because "OHMYGOD THERE ARE NO JOBS!" Then was laid off from my teaching job by 26. Left me devastated and I changed paths, though slightly. If I didn't have the support of my husband (and everybody else, of course) I don't know how I would have handled it. I'm 29 now and I feel like that was so long ago so I so hope if she did take off, she knows so much can change from bad to amazing in such a short time. Without job/financial security OR romantic security when you're at a time in your life where you feel you should have it all coming together can cause depression, anxiety, Etc. Shannon not sharing this doesn't mean it didn't exist. If I was facing divorce at 25, I would have been beyond humiliated and then you add in reasons for the separation.. I have no idea how her family views her career choice but one of my BFFs is in the same general line of work and his parents are awesome but vocal about not understanding why he would choose a career that is less than reliable when it comes to money. Even his amazing wife who for the most part doesn't care about how much money he makes gets worried about him only making money here or there. It's a true story and not everybody can handle that pressure. It shouldn't be discounted, regardless of her passion. She was a motivated woman who seemed happy with her choice but she had a lot going on. I swing both ways thinking I see her needing some time, or well.. She does have an estranged husband so.. All I know about this case is that I hope she is safe and comes home soon. Her family is in my thoughts!!

 

[OutOfTheDarkness]

I don't know what to make of the Vancouver/Toronto tip. Could go either way:

- She could've said to heck with Alberta, I'm going to the two film meccas of Canada where the real action is, I'm fed up with everyone here (including her family? Still skeptical on her bailing on her entire family or a best friend) or,

- Someone knows these two cities are the film hubs, as well as being two of the biggest cities in Canada (so hard to find her, a needle in a haystack), and chose those two cities for a set up for a 'tip'

I think if it was me and I was really fed up with the film biz and my friends and family (as some theories suggest), I would not go to the two biggest cities one being across the country. I would be going to a quiet zone by the ocean, outdoors, somewhere peaceful or a small town where I can think *peacefully*. There's lots of beautiful parks and oceans around. Crowded, busy cities would add to someone's anxiety.

I just have a hard time thinking she was having a zen moment and needed to get away to Toronto/Vancouver….JMO.

Agreed. "Messy divorce", last seen 3 days before being reported missing... last seen by "family member"... something to consider strongly, for sure.

However, I also find it odd the family appealed to her saying she's not in trouble, and they don't need to know where she is, just that she's okay. If I was convinced it was "out of character" I am not sure those would be the words I would use.

Foul play, suicide, or starting a new life elsewhere... all somewhat plausible, and none would be a surprise when the news finally breaks...

http://metronews.ca/news/calgary/12...o-family-said-its-not-like-her-to-dissappear/

 

[OutOfTheDarkness]

I don't know what to make of the Vancouver/Toronto tip. Could go either way:

- She could've said to heck with Alberta, I'm going to the two film meccas of Canada where the real action is, I'm fed up with everyone here (including her family? Still skeptical on her bailing on her entire family or a best friend) or,

- Someone knows these two cities are the film hubs, as well as being two of the biggest cities in Canada (so hard to find her, a needle in a haystack), and chose those two cities for a set up for a 'tip'

I think if it was me and I was really fed up with the film biz and my friends and family (as some theories suggest), I would not go to the two biggest cities one being across the country. I would be going to a quiet zone by the ocean, outdoors, somewhere peaceful or a small town where I can think *peacefully*. There's lots of beautiful parks and oceans around. Crowded, busy cities would add to someone's anxiety.

I just have a hard time thinking she was having a zen moment and needed to get away to Toronto/Vancouver….JMO.

If you've ever stayed in small town Canada, you'll know that you stick out like a sore thumb, there is no hiding anywhere or privacy, and everyone knows you are there, especially if you are attractive. Big cities offer the best anonymity.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

If you've ever stayed in small town Canada, you'll know that you stick out like a sore thumb, there is no hiding anywhere or privacy, and everyone knows you are there, especially if you are attractive. Big cities offer the best anonymity.

True, I actually thought of that after I posted, the small town thing. I think of the saying 'fresh meat'! Everyone notices the new girl/guy, especially an attractive one.

I guess I actually thought, she wouldn't go somewhere to hide necessarily, but to chill out if she had any depression/anxiety or sense of being overwhelmed, so thought cities wouldn't be top of the list. But it all depends for a reason she would do this *if* she did.

 

[OutOfTheDarkness]

I just finished watching the family interview in its entirety.

Has it been discussed ad nauseam that her sister said that Shannon talked to her brother the day before "she left"?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYgblHe6Dpc

 

[news.talk]

I just finished watching the family interview in its entirety.

Has it been discussed ad nauseam that her sister said that Shannon talked to her brother the day before "she left"?

After watching enough family press conferences, two things are clear... The family of a missing person are often in denial, even to the point of creating a scenario despite logic. Also, LE have fed them wording for investigative purposes such as rooting out potential suspects.

Whether either are at play here is uncertain, but they cannot be discounted.

 

[news.talk]

True, I actually thought of that after I posted, the small town thing. I think of the saying 'fresh meat'! Everyone notices the new girl/guy, especially an attractive one.

I guess I actually thought, she wouldn't go somewhere to hide necessarily, but to chill out if she had any depression/anxiety or sense of being overwhelmed, so thought cities wouldn't be top of the list. But it all depends for a reason she would do this *if* she did.

Not that we would be privy to this information, but wouldn't one pack clothes and withdrawal large sums of cash, before disappearing?

 

[OutOfTheDarkness]

After watching enough family press conferences, two things are clear... The family of a missing person are often in denial, even to the point of creating a scenario despite logic. Also, LE have fed them wording for investigative purposes such as rooting out potential suspects.

Whether either are at play here is uncertain, but they cannot be discounted.

Indeed. I just haven't read through the earlier bits of the thread. This may have been debated endlessly already. It's always prudent to point things out... could mean something... could mean nothing. As more information comes to light, little things that make no sense early, perhaps make sense later.

 

[news.talk]

Indeed. I just haven't read through the earlier bits of the thread. This may have been debated endlessly already. It's always prudent to point things out... could mean something... could mean nothing. As more information comes to light, little things that make no sense early, perhaps make sense later.

Admittedly, the family statements have me curious. I cannot decide whether the statements that 'she's not in trouble' and 'before she left' are wishful thinking or an accurate insight into SB.

In order to whittle it down, I try and balance it out with the other facts:

1. She just made a round trip for an audition in Edmonton. If she wasn't interested in the part, would she have made the effort?

2. Her financials show no bank activity since she was last seen.

3. By all accounts, she had close family ties and uncharacteristically, did not show for scheduled plans.

4. She was in the midst of a 'messy divorce' and the person providing her last known sighting, was her estranged husband.

5. Only days prior to her disappearance, she posted on social media that her brakes were shot and she wondered who she 'ticked off' enough to curse her.

6. She has not been sighted anywhere, even in the locations that the search was expanded.

7. Another recent missing person investigation in this city that turned out to be a homicide, had a very similar press release stating that she may have travelled, when in fact she was deceased in her own home. Therefore, the fact that the search area has been expanded to other cities, shows it may just be covering the bases.

8. According to LE, only her keys and wallet are missing, her cell phone, vehicle and personal belongings were left at her residence.

9. She works in a field that is public and may attract stalkers.

10. It has been almost three weeks and zero new information has come to light.

When balanced against the family's statements, the preponderance of circumstantial evidence leads to an abduction or homicide, more than a willing disappearance.

 

[dotr]

Not that we would be privy to this information, but wouldn't one pack clothes and withdrawal large sums of cash, before disappearing?

IF Shannon did leave of her own volition,she might still have her bags and perhaps cash, from her trip to Edmonton on hand.

 

[otto]

You could have starred in a 5 minute film and submitted it to the contest. Anyone could have. It's not success by any means.

How much does a voice-over pay? A couple hundred dollars for the day? Then what?

So, this year, her success was a couple hundred dollars worth of work?

What exactly is the issue? I see lots of criticism of Shannon's career choice. What does that have to do with the fact that she, her keys, and her wallet vanished from her home?

 

[otto]

Ok. But the issue with this theory is who is funding her. <mod snip>

<mod snip> my point is she hasn't used her bank account. Someone must be looking after her living expenses. Is there any evidence of travel on her part? Perhaps some producer drove all the way to Calgary to pick her up and they drove to Toronto or Van. Perhaps she walked there? I'm sure the police are following up on this trail.

I highly doubt any young woman who is of sound mind would leave with no belongings, money, or even a cell phone and then break all ties with her family and friends. And even leave her dog behind. This is ludicrous!

I would not want to take hope away from anyone but if Shannon is still alive she is likely in distress and in the Calgary area. To find her would be the best outcome. But the search has to focus on local possibilities.

Before we can even look at the possibility that Shannon voluntarily went to another city, we have to answer another question: Did Shannon have so little respect for her brother that she made weekend plans with him on Tuesday, and left the city without telling him on Wednesday? Did Shannon have so little respect for her family that she is alive and currently refusing to answer her family's desperate pleas for information that she is safe? Did Shannon have so little respect for her career that she auditioned for, and was awarded, a part, and then she simple chose to not show up?

If the answer is no (which I believe it is), then the answer to the question of whether Shannon decided to go to Vancouver or Toronto is no.

 

[news.talk]

IF Shannon did leave of her own volition,she might still have her bags and perhaps cash, from her trip to Edmonton on hand.

By the sounds of it, her trip to Edmonton was a day trip. It is three hours there and three hours back and at the most, she would have stayed for maybe one night. Therefore, I would guess she *may* have packed an overnight bag, not enough for an extended stay.

 

[dotr]

I just finished watching the family interview in its entirety.

Has it been discussed ad nauseam that her sister said that Shannon talked to her brother the day before "she left"?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYgblHe6Dpc

Not that I recall, it sounded like Shannon made plans at that time to meet him at Stagewest.
So if S left of her own accord, it might be a spur of the moment , impulsive decision.
If I heard correctly, the sister said they went to all the last places where S spent money. imo.

 

[otto]

Not that I recall, it sounded like Shannon made plans at that time to meet him at Stagewest.
So if S left of her own accord, it might be a spur of the moment , impulsive decision.
If I heard correctly, the sister said they went to all the last places where S spent money. imo.

Shannon's husband reported that he last saw her at 12:30AM late Wednesday night. There has been no communication from her since that time. Her husband probably said that "she left", but if she left, why is there no trace of her outside of her house? Why did she vanish off the face of the earth as "she left"?

 

[stan laurel]

her rent was very little even if say, she didn't share.

that was an older listing this is the current one;
http://www.sacha-coop.ca/PDFs/Co-ops/RamsayHeights.pdf

 

[news.talk]

her rent was very little even if say, she didn't share.

Housing Charges - 2 bedroom = $627.00 per month

3 bedroom = $682.00 per month

4 bedroom = $722.00 per month

Is that the pricing for her units? That is CHEAP! The average two bedroom is $1500 per month here!

 

[otto]

Is that the pricing for her units? That is CHEAP!

It's a housing co-op, meaning subsidized housing. Given that her husband has a good job, is unfortunate that the couple lives in subsidized housing, but I suppose it happens.

http://www.chfcanada.coop/eng/pages2007/about_3a.asp?Prov=AB&Region=AB1

 

[news.talk]

Shannon's husband reported that he last saw her at 12:30AM late Wednesday night. There has been no communication from her since that time. Her husband probably said that "she left", but if she left, why is there no trace of her outside of her house? Why did she vanish off the face of the earth as "she left"?

I always thought it was standard protocol for LE to obtain CCTV footage for the area where the person was last seen. There is a 7'11 one block away and other businesses... If they did obtain it and she wasn't spotted on foot or in a vehicle, could she have been in a trunk?