Found Deceased Canada - Shannon Burgess, 25, Calgary, 26 Nov 2014 - #1 *Arrest*

[otto]

I do remember reading that. Perhaps just in the one story which also stated about the 'messy divorce', both of which could be bad reporting, who knows?? Why would she be in distress? Why would the divorce be messy if they were friends and got along 'quite' well and still lived together? Living together through a divorce.. that would be like self-imposed, wished-for messy. And although last seen 'in' the home might be weird, that is probably because that is exactly where she was last seen. I wonder when she 'left', and how, and with whom, and why, and where was she off to? How could nobody know anything?

What we read is that although Shannon and her husband were estranged, they were still living together. That's a recipe for disaster, but apparently the husband was cooperative with police ... even though he did not report her missing.

I don't think that Shannon left her home late on Wednesday evening.
What was her husband doing at work on Thursday and Friday?

 

[LayzeeDayzee]

First off, we really have no idea whether she really did take only her keys and wallet. Who would know this with 100% certainty except the very last person who truly saw her with these items, but did anyone? Hubby could have dumped these in a million places where they'd never be found (dumpster).

Never any details released about what she might have been wearing, based on what outdoor clothing items were left in the home.........was a typical winter coat she'd usually wear gone or still there? same with footwear? scarf/gloves/etc? Why has this never been addressed? That's usually such basic info that's released by LE at the start of a missing persons case. Not a peep here.

I totally understand fully why police can't do a forensic search of her & hubby's apartment (and vehicles), without a search warrant obtained based on probably cause --- but how scary is that when you look at the big picture? A woman is missing, reportedly last seen by her estranged husband who took several days to let her sister know she was missing (only after returning a call to sister). She could be stuffed into a suitcase or some such item and hidden somewhere in the apartment (deep freeze?) or apartment basement/storage unit (if there is one).

Was there ever any campaign organized by friends or family to distribute missing posters? Why haven't her acting friends come forward publicly to organize a search?......or her family?

Has LE had her vehicle inspected due to her post about someone having screwed with her car's brakes?........had someone tampered with them such that she had no brakes at all?

It's all very strange and I think people are going to not even give this case much thought as time passes.

We don't know whether the police have been allowed to look around at Shannon's townhouse. At the press conference, police said that they didn't yet have a full accounting of what was missing at the house. Police are committing heavy resources to unusual disappearances and crimes in the city - police are not prejudging the disappearance of Shannon, and the family is very cooperative. Shannon's disappearance could be a suicide, it could be a head game where she's playing fantasy/reality war games in Vancouver and Toronto, it could be that the estranged husband with whom she was living snapped with jealousy and murdered her, and it could be that someone grabbed her off the street after "she left" on Nov 26 after midnight.

Police can't search the house without a search warrant, and they can't get a search warrant without probable cause. A husband has no reason, nor obligation, to allow police to toss his home simply because his wife vanished off the street after leaving their home late at night ... after a long drive from Edmonton ... after being awarded the part in a very exciting film opportunity the following weekend.

 

[ep2002]

I could do it and would have done it many times. It was only -1 celsius. I don't think that is absurd or stupid at all for not wearing gloves.

She could have had a pair of gloves stuffed into her coat pocket or that handcuff style that is sewn into coats or sweatshirts (my prefered choice). But since we do not even have a description of the coat she could have worn I think gloves would be a needle in a haystack. Especially if they are those cheep stretchy knit gloves that most own and most lose and you can even see strays laying in the streets of Calgary.
JMOO

TBH I live in Calgary and I often forget to wear gloves when it is -20. You definitely don't need gloves when it is -1.

 

[LayzeeDayzee]

Shannon has clearly met with foul play. Hopefully they will recover her soon but no guarantees. It could be years before they find her.

Hate to disagree but this is only your opinion, you're posting it like you are basing this statement on substantiated, irrefutable proof.

 

[Topcat]

In regards to her brakes,is it possible that they were at the point that replacing was required and she was just *****ing about her bad luck? I mean unless the car was gone LE would be able to tell if the brakes were tampered with.

 

[deugirtni]

Why don't you think SB left her home late on Wed evening? JB was at work on Thurs and Fri likely doing whatever he does every day he works.. he wouldn't have necessarily known by this point that SB was unaccounted for. He last saw her at 12;30am on Thurs/Wed midnight, but when 'she left', he was likely used to being in the dark about her plans/whereabouts. She then had plans for the weekend, which of course, did not include him.. how would he know she hadn't shown up? Obviously her whereabouts wasn't something he was privvy to, so he didn't act or become concerned until his ex's sister told him she had missed some appointments over the weekend. That said, it would be interesting to know if JB's demeanour at work on the Thurs, Fri and Mon was the same as any other day.

What we read is that although Shannon and her husband were estranged, they were still living together. That's a recipe for disaster, but apparently the husband was cooperative with police ... even though he did not report her missing.

I don't think that Shannon left her home late on Wednesday evening.
What was her husband doing at work on Thursday and Friday?

 

[dotr]

Random speculation, imo..

Still do not think ex had anything to do with Shannon missing, moo.
Thinking that if she did not purposely or subconsciously, put herself in harm's way, she met up with someone who did.
If there is any chance that Shannon is alive and hiding, maybe Xmas will pull at her heartstrings...
Wonder if she was tricked into some sort of escort business and afraid to return home, or not permitted to... imo.

Regarding stalkers, Shannon and her sister had once iirc. joked, that you knew you were famous if you had one.
Some stalkers are pests that force a person to take notice of them, but what about the ones you are unaware of ?
Anyone could be in the audience...

 

[Lalalacasbah]

What we read is that although Shannon and her husband were estranged, they were still living together. That's a recipe for disaster, but apparently the husband was cooperative with police ... even though he did not report her missing.

I don't think that Shannon left her home late on Wednesday evening.
What was her husband doing at work on Thursday and Friday?

I am curious her husband's demeanor at work Thursday and Friday assuming he went to work.

ETA - just noticed I almost repeated exactly what deugirtni said upthread about the hubby's demeanor, we're on the same wavelength

 

[LoisLane]

That's a great thought, whether the contacts or glasses were at home might help serve as a clue…

If she left on her own that would complicate things because then she'd have to go through the trouble to get an appointment with an optometrist to get another prescription to get glasses/contacts. That just seems like it would be an inconvenience for someone who might be traveling far to Toronto or Vancouver. If she was hypothetically suicidal or foul play is involved it'd be expected that they both be at home.

She could reorder her contacts online if she knows her prescription. I know mine, it hasn't changed in years. The glasses would be harder to replace but she may not wear them often enough to worry about replacing them. If she bought contact lenses thru her optometrist she may have purchased a 6-month or 1-year supply whether she wears dailies, monthly's etc. If she did have a supply I would be curious if the boxes are missing.

Also, now that I think of it... If foul play is probable and we are posting things like missing gloves, contact lenses, glasses, coats, etc... Who is to say that the perp isn't reading along and clearing out these little details. CPS had better find a way to search that house properly. I do not buy for a second that they can't do this.

 

[LoisLane]

I am curious her husband's demeanor at work Thursday and Friday assuming he went to work.

I was wondering if he travels for work. Maybe he was away at another office. I think his job would involve some travel within the company.

 

[LoisLane]

This is a moving article relating to a woman whose death has been silenced.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...eath-and-no-one-saw-anything/article22167039/

 

[Lalalacasbah]

Shannon has clearly met with foul play. Hopefully they will recover her soon but no guarantees. It could be years before they find her.

If foul play has occurred I think it's close to home. I don't necessarily mean her husband either. Could be someone from her neighborhood or someone who works in her neighborhood who watched her, knew her schedule, habits and where she frequents and who with.

Could also be someone she knows through association or friends of friends or a co-worker association, etc.

 

[jillybean51]

Shannon has clearly met with foul play. Hopefully they will recover her soon but no guarantees. It could be years before they find her.

Dennis,just wondering what you're basing this on? Thanks

 

[Writerofwrongs]

I assumed LE would have already had a look around the home SB and JB shared after all, she could be in the home. If they haven't checked it, she could be being held against her will by JB. Maybe he was sick of having to pin her down on her erratic timetable to talk so he thought he would make sure she couldn't leave for a bit. He is now panicking because he realises how many people are looking for her, how many LE officers and resources are being used. This is all strictly me speculating and it is far fetched....I just hope LE have been checking the garbage. JB reminds me of the part played by Michael Douglas in "Falling Down", a straight-as-a-dye ordinary kind of man, by the book and the law and then one day.....completely flip out.

 

[Micheline]

-Respectfully snipped by me-

And I don't recall EM ever mentioning her sister may be in distress, does anyone else remember hearing/reading that? Again, I might've just missed stuff, but that's an interesting comment.

On Dec 5 Madill said that there had not been any major arguments or disagreements prior to her sister’s disappearance.

http://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/police-search-for-calgary-woman-who-disappeared-a-week-ago

 

[Micheline]

Why don't you think SB left her home late on Wed evening? JB was at work on Thurs and Fri likely doing whatever he does every day he works.. he wouldn't have necessarily known by this point that SB was unaccounted for. He last saw her at 12;30am on Thurs/Wed midnight, but when 'she left', he was likely used to being in the dark about her plans/whereabouts. She then had plans for the weekend, which of course, did not include him.. how would he know she hadn't shown up?

BBM

Shannon had a dog, the dog was living with her and JB, if she had not been home for 5 days and JB was at work, he must have noticed the dog was not taken care of the entire day/night for days on a row I assume?

Is her dog found, is the dog missing too? Was her dog staying with someone else for some time? If Shannon was planning on leaving for days she would have to tell JB so he could take care of the dog, if not she must have told someone else and had that someone look after the dog for a certain period of time, if none of the above JB would notice the dog wasn't taken care of for 5 days. IMO

 

[PonderingNS]

Otto, if you get a minute rewatch the pressers her sister gives. In the following one at the 30 SECOND mark she says " SHE STOPPED RETURNING CALLS LAST FRIDAY " so that would mean she walked to somewhere and was presumably safe overnight that night and Thurs to Friday would it not ? That is why her sister said on her FB page then that she went missing on FRIDAY .


http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/mobile/family-says-shannon-madill-burgess-was-unlikely-to-disappear-without-contacting-anyone-1.2134851#ixzz3L8Vdi1T1


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This is the short notice recruiting for the part that Shannon got, but she was missing.

http://www.socialhelpers.tv/news-feed/

Regardless of anyone that puts down, or denigrates, the quality of Shannon's career, she is missing.
Shannon Madill (nee Burgess) was last seen in her home in the 1900 Block of Spiller Road SE Calgary.
We don't know whether she vanished at 12:30AM at her home, or if she was abducted on the street, or whether she chose to end her life. The only thing we know is that the last sighting of her and all communication with her was at her home; shared with her estranged husband ... that two bedroom Housing Co-Op option where the minimum income had to be above $43k.

If she did not leave out the Townhouse ground level door (is that a sliding patio door, or a single door?), then she had to walk out a door near the building exits and near parking lots. If she walked out either of the ground-level doors in her housing co-op building

Is it possible the Shannon walked out of the ground floor of her townhouse and she was immediately grabbed in the parking lot near her home, or on Spiller Road, and she vanished? Yes. Is it likely? No.

That Shannon left her home seems clear ... and I'm assuming that the husband has cooperated with a search warrant with/without probably cause and that police have ruled out all possibility that anyone, like Shannon, lost her life in the Townhouse. If a search of the home ... and whether her mitts and toque are missing ... has not been done then there is a problem with the husband. There is not a good reason for a husband to

 

[LoisLane]

^^^

There was a post on Fb where someone was asking the family memeber about the friday texts that the brother had sent. Somehow it was validated that Shannon had not replied to the text and therefore the last time he would have had a reply from her was the thursday and not the Friday... I can't pull the info. right now but will double check my comment to the posts and verify...

 

[PonderingNS]

The video specifically says " she stopped returning CALLS last Friday, not texts.

 

[PonderingNS]

She also says in this same video that "that is when we became concerned and called the police" referring to Friday- so the police were contacted early on , not after the weekend, as was mentioned a few times. Just for clarification.
However the 10 minute police /news video has the police and sister saying that police were not contacted till Monday. The police repeats it a couple of times.
I am perplexed.