Found Deceased Canada - Shannon Burgess, 25, Calgary, 26 Nov 2014 - #2 *Arrest*

[Lalalacasbah]

I just wanted to point out FB posts made by both SB and JB from way back on Nov 1st, 2012. SB had received a couple of beautiful 'blue' roses from JB the day before (would have been Halloween 2012) which he had brung to her 'office', and she stated that at first when she saw them, she wondered what he had done 'wrong' ! But she explained that it turned out he hadn't done anything wrong, he had merely thought the florist was 'cute'. Then JB responded by saying yes, she's not your type unfortunately.

I had been wondering how long the 'bi' thing had been going on, and also whether the SB/JB relationship had always been non-monogamous, or if it was something more recent.

I'm wondering the same about things - who introduced who to what first. Who was a LARPer first, who was the open relationship instigator (presuming of course one introduced the other, maybe they both were from the get-go). It sounds like from Shannon's old Reddit post, that she was brought into it, probably by JB.

I'm thinking he's the main influence with this stuff. After reading her Reddit posts of her friends bashing her BF, he sounds like a player. If he left his live-in girlfriend of 5 years to be with Shannon within days, who's to say he wasn't doing this to Shannon. Something got 'messy' between them, and if he's a creature of habit he might be repeating behavior.

 

[dotr]

Well here is an MSM article from when he went missing. Then he was subsequently located, but LE apparently were not allowed to tell the family where he was because he wanted it that way and he was an adult. They said their hearts were 'soaring' and 'broken' at the same time. And it seems that even though there was at least *one* MSM story about him missing, there was no followup in MSM to say that he was 'found'. Someone was asking the other day whether it was possible that SB could have been located but the public not informed. I think the SB case is different from this one because LE and the family held a public news conference, etc., so it would be prudent to inform the public. In this case of Justin Baker, I guess not.

http://metronews.ca/news/calgary/1222600/calgary-mom-pleads-for-safe-return-of-adult-son-with-aspergers/

From the news link.. A sentiment shared imo, by Shannon's family.

“I don’t want to humiliate my son, if he’s fine…if he’s just hiding out somewhere,” Nelson said. “If he comes back in a day, or a week or a month I will have embarrassed him, but I think he will forgive.”

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Rbbm.

“Shannon, if you see this, you’re not in trouble, we all love you and we miss you so much," said family spokesperson Erin Madill, Shannon's older sister. "We need to know where you are and we just want to know that you’re safe.”

Erin was joined by Shannon's husband, parents, two brothers and a sister-in-law at the CPS media availabily. The family holds the belief Shannon is safe, wherever she may be.

“We’re all very optimistic that my sister will be returned to us as soon as possible and very safe,” said Erin Madill. “We’re going to stay optimistic as long as we possibly can.”

“It is unbelievably unlikely for her to disappear and not contact anybody.”

Read more: http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/family-sa...out-contacting-anyone-1.2134851#ixzz3N7vqYf6z

 

[deugirtni]

On the inside of OkCupid, can you see when a member first signed up?

 

[deugirtni]

In the redditt post, SB says, on June 30, 2011, that she 'started hanging out with a group of people'.. that one of them caught her eye (mr.man who is 3 years older than her), but that he was living with his gf of 5 years. In the meantime, another couple had attempted to have her join them for a threesome, and she had declined.
Note: this 'group of people' could be a swingers group, .. it sounds like it.. and if that is the case, sounds like she signed up all on her own, and mr.man was already a member (if SB's post is even referring to JB, which we don't know for sure?)
Then 'mr.man' broke up with his live-in gf, and within days was dating SB. This had been going on for 1.5 months before she posted this. This would put them at starting to date in mid-May 2011.
So.. if mr.man is JB, then sounds like they were each into this 'alternate lifestyle' before even meeting one another, with JB having been a member of this group of people for longer than SB.

I'm wondering the same about things - who introduced who to what first. Who was a LARPer first, who was the open relationship instigator (presuming of course one introduced the other, maybe they both were from the get-go). It sounds like from Shannon's old Reddit post, that she was brought into it, probably by JB.

I'm thinking he's the main influence with this stuff. After reading her Reddit posts of her friends bashing her BF, he sounds like a player. If he left his live-in girlfriend of 5 years to be with Shannon within days, who's to say he wasn't doing this to Shannon. Something got 'messy' between them, and if he's a creature of habit he might be repeating behavior.

 

[ninij9]

Lurking sorry, but this thread has become really voyeuristic into this poor missing woman's private lifestyle. Doesn't seem too much in the W.S. "victim friendly" "family friendly" style anymore. No advancing theory as to what happened for many, many pages. MOO, not to offend. It just makes me sad.[emoji17]

 

[dotr]

Respectfully, wishing all the best to Shannon's family and friends and hoping,
that Shannon is located very soon.

 

[redheart]

Lurking sorry, but this thread has become really voyeuristic into this poor missing woman's private lifestyle. Doesn't seem too much in the W.S. "victim friendly" "family friendly" style anymore. No advancing theory as to what happened for many, many pages. MOO, not to offend. It just makes me sad.[emoji17]

With all due respect, I've been lurking too but have noticed that the people sleuthing SB's disappearance now, with the knowledge of her alternate lifestyle, are the same people who were sleuthing her disappearance before her alternate lifestyle was known. I still see the same caring group, not voyeurs.

 

[melbot1000]

I disagree, especially since I specifically said that I believe all these different profiles/digging into her online presence supports my theory that something happened with another partner, not JB.

I believe it's on page ten if you liked to give it another, more through read.

Lurking sorry, but this thread has become really voyeuristic into this poor missing woman's private lifestyle. Doesn't seem too much in the W.S. "victim friendly" "family friendly" style anymore. No advancing theory as to what happened for many, many pages. MOO, not to offend. It just makes me sad.[emoji17]

 

[melbot1000]

So, this is something I was thinking of...
I'm off work for a while and I used to work across the street from Shannon's house. Should I go do a walk around and do a little reporting/picture taking? Obviously I would remain a respectful distance from the residence but it might help everyone understand the surrounding area a bit.

What do you guys think?

 

[LoisLane]

On the inside of OkCupid, can you see when a member first signed up?

I don't see a joined date. Reading thru her profile she does reference e-harmony. If anyone is part of that site there may be more info.

 

[LoisLane]

So, this is something I was thinking of...
I'm off work for a while and I used to work across the street from Shannon's house. Should I go do a walk around and do a little reporting/picture taking? Obviously I would remain a respectful distance from the residence but it might help everyone understand the surrounding area a bit.

What do you guys think?

I think if you are comfortable with doing that and feel safe it could definetly trigger some ideas. If you take any alleys or trails I would encourage you to go with someone. Just to be safe.

 

[azure]

Lurking sorry, but this thread has become really voyeuristic into this poor missing woman's private lifestyle. Doesn't seem too much in the W.S. "victim friendly" "family friendly" style anymore. No advancing theory as to what happened for many, many pages. MOO, not to offend. It just makes me sad.[emoji17]

I can think of a couple cases where insight was gained from exploring a missing person's internet lifestyle. Nicholas Francisco was discovered to have a secret life behind the back of his wife and kids, and was subsequently found safe. Teleka Patrick's stalking of a famous preacher was uncovered on twitter, and she was subsequently found drowned. Her internet persona brought to light her troubled mental state, and ruled out foul play for most WSers. While it can be painful and seem intrusive, sleuthing a missing person on the internet often provides invaluable knowledge.

 

[LoisLane]

Lurking sorry, but this thread has become really voyeuristic into this poor missing woman's private lifestyle. Doesn't seem too much in the W.S. "victim friendly" "family friendly" style anymore. No advancing theory as to what happened for many, many pages. MOO, not to offend. It just makes me sad.[emoji17]

We are simply connecting the dots by sleuthing. If we ignore these details we are not being helpful.

Voyeurism is a harsh critique and completely offensive.

If by some far off chance we can come up with something to assist in finding Shannon I would imagine that the family would be understanding.

As for past and future victims and unsolved cases it may assist them in pursuing different avenues and searches for their own specific situations and missing family members, as well it does create awareness for anyone who may choose a similar path as Shannon.

 

[Hraefn]

I think the sleuthers here are doing a great job and definitely have the best interests in heart and mind. I'm humbled by everyone's dedication! But some of the sites being discussed are against the TOS, and there's a reason the discussion isn't allowed here even if it seems relevant. We all want Shannon home and no one would intentionally bring any negativity here, we just need to tread lightly around the things that can't be discussed out of respect for the mods, the TOS, and Shannon and her family!

 

[melbot1000]

I think if you are comfortable with doing that and feel safe it could definetly trigger some ideas. If you take any alleys or trails I would encourage you to go with someone. Just to be safe.

Sure , I would do it in the daytime during business hours so there are lots of people. Maybe I'll do it next week. I'm super familiar with the area and it would give everyone a better idea of where Shannon could have gone. I could also do a walking video and point out different landmarks/potential paths

 

[dotr]

Doubtful that this missing teen girl in Whitby is connected, but cannot help but mention, due to her resemblance, imo to a younger Shannon.
fwiw..

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...-seen-since-Dec-18-14&p=11340512#post11340512

 

[dotr]

http://www.wikihow.com/Find-a-Missing-Person

"How to Find a Missing Person

Three Parts:Contacting the Police and Filing ReportsConducting a SearchGetting Outside Parties Involved"

"Check social media sites. This is an important way to gain information about the days leading up to the person's disappearance. Check his or her Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and other accounts and determine whether recent activity contains any clues. Look at the missing person's friends' sites as well.

Print out correspondence and activity that seems as though it could lead to the missing person's location.
Report any activity that might be a clue to the case worker at the police department."

 

[Lalalacasbah]

Lurking sorry, but this thread has become really voyeuristic into this poor missing woman's private lifestyle. Doesn't seem too much in the W.S. "victim friendly" "family friendly" style anymore. No advancing theory as to what happened for many, many pages. MOO, not to offend. It just makes me sad.[emoji17]

Sorry you feel that way Ninij, no one is meaning to sound like we're not victim friendly at all!

Everything posted is on the internet for anyone to see, and I'm sure SB and JB realized that when posting their info on a dating site. I don't think we're being exploitive here, I think it's quite relevant to her disappearance (JMO).

I don't think their lifestyle choice is being bashed by anyone here either, we're just spinning up ideas/hypothetical thoughts as to what could've happened.... It's the 21st Century and sexual preferences aren't shocking these days, no one is judging. I don't think anyone here is frowning upon SB/JB's choices, we're just wondering if that choice opened up a pandora's box of mixed emotions or opened the door to a stranger and whether these things are connected.

Please don't feel sad, I hope you see we are trying to dig for *anything* to point in a direction of where she is.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

So, this is something I was thinking of...
I'm off work for a while and I used to work across the street from Shannon's house. Should I go do a walk around and do a little reporting/picture taking? Obviously I would remain a respectful distance from the residence but it might help everyone understand the surrounding area a bit.

What do you guys think?

Wow, I say go for it, but cautiously of course As long as you feel safe and comfortable.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

Doubtful that this missing teen girl in Whitby is connected, but cannot help but mention, due to her resemblance, imo to a younger Shannon.
fwiw..

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...-seen-since-Dec-18-14&p=11340512#post11340512

What a gorgeous young girl, I hope she's found. Where in the world do all these missing people go??? It's so frightening