CANADA Canada - Sonia Varaschin, 42, Orangeville, 29 Aug 2010 - #2

[flipflop]

I think LE stated they were looking at 'dating sites'. What other ones are there? I know about POF. Are there others that are common for 40 somethings?

There are quite afew dating websites besides POF....eharmony, match.ca, lavalife....these are just a few that I can think of off the top of my head, you see these ones advertised on TV quite often. THere are also dating sites for Christians, bikers, dating married sites, etc.

 

[flipflop]

The free website is safe for women, according to Frind.

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/a...ccount-months-before-murder-founder-says?bn=1

Im not so sure about this statement...LE seems to think differently at this point and time.

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

The free website is safe for women, according to Frind.

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/a...ccount-months-before-murder-founder-says?bn=1

Im not so sure about this statement...LE seems to think differently at this point and time.

I'm not sure about that statement either. In general, *I* don't think the web/internet is "safe" for women. Or for any vulnerable person.:twocents:

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

I don't find the timing of the closing of her POF account strange at all.

SV had a new relationship, whom she did not meet on POF, (so says her brother) so she closed her account in Jan 2010. Not that i know exactly when she had her new beau but it is not uncommon to become active and inactive on any website. (including this one I would think)

Experience has also told me that if you sign up for one singles site, you prob belong to more than that, either by pseudo name.

Am I the only one who thinks LE has a very good idea (as might the family (forgive me for saying this part) who they are suspecting and are trying to flush him out of his own accord for an " easier" conviction???? Feeling LE doesn't believe he is a danger to someone else? Obviously I don't believe a woman committed this crime, having read other bloggers profiles

Maybe I'm wishful thinking

Well, I sort of agree because it seems to be taking LE a long time to 'find' the perp. Perhaps LE knew all along who he is and they're just waiting for him to slip up.

That said, I really don't know how he could not be a threat to other females in the interim.

 

[Kamille]

Obviously LE has known about her POF account and any others she may have had since the beginning. The site's owner has verified that they had contacted him early on. So why are they only looking into it now? It couldn't have taken this long for DNA results to come back from the various crime scenes. They had to have had results quite some time ago to clear the suspect list that they had at the beginning.

Were the original investigation team that inept that they didn't consider that angle? I believe there have been new investigators brought on to her case in recent months?

 

[Kamille]

I don't find the timing of the closing of her POF account strange at all.

SV had a new relationship, whom she did not meet on POF, (so says her brother) so she closed her account in Jan 2010. Not that i know exactly when she had her new beau but it is not uncommon to become active and inactive on any website. (including this one I would think)

Experience has also told me that if you sign up for one singles site, you prob belong to more than that, either by pseudo name.

Am I the only one who thinks LE has a very good idea (as might the family (forgive me for saying this part) who they are suspecting and are trying to flush him out of his own accord for an " easier" conviction???? Feeling LE doesn't believe he is a danger to someone else? Obviously I don't believe a woman committed this crime, having read other bloggers profiles

Maybe I'm wishful thinking

Actually I do find the closing of her account strange. Unless she closed any other accounts that she may have had on other dating sites at the same time. She had been dating her boyfriend "off and on" for about a year so I don't think it was him that prompted her to close the account. POF is notorious for meeting "undesirable" individuals and has come up in a few cases I believe. It was fairly prominent in the Victoria Stafford case. It's almost as notorious as Craigslist at this point I think.

I had hoped they would seriously consider this angle way back when I first found the account. I thought they did actually so it's a surprise to me that they are just going through her contacts on there now. :waitasec:

MOO

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Actually I do find the closing of her account strange. Unless she closed any other accounts that she may have had on other dating sites at the same time. She had been dating her boyfriend "off and on" for about a year so I don't think it was him that prompted her to close the account. POF is notorious for meeting "undesirable" individuals and has come up in a few cases I believe. It was fairly prominent in the Victoria Stafford case. It's almost as notorious as Craigslist at this point I think.

I had hoped they would seriously consider this angle way back when I first found the account. I thought they did actually so it's a surprise to me that they are just going through her contacts on there now. :waitasec:

MOO

Firstly, I know nothing about dating websites (except for the Craigslist killer I saw on TV) so this is eerily interesting to me.

Secondly, I agree that LE should have looked at all internet activities way back when this happened. Why didn't they?:maddening:

ETA: Does anyone know - can the police find the persons who were hacking into POF? I'm starting to think that the perp is one of the hackers into POF. It seems as though POF had been hacked into a great deal. I'm hoping LE can locate all of the hackers.

Thoughts? Anyone?

 

[dotr]

Matt Gurney: Targeted DNA requests is no different than answering police questions
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com...no-different-than-answering-police-questions/
I imagine that LE might not have had DNA earlier in the investigation and possibly only recently got results that turned the direction of the investigation towards the dating site..maybe they were able to derive more detailed info. such as ethnicity or hair colour of the perp.OR, someone on that dating site is a suspect in something - somewhere else? IMO

'After months of forensic work, they have isolated what they believe to be the killer’s DNA"

 

[dotr]

Older link concerning the hacking of the dating site, with mention of another site (which denys being hacked) and a whole lot of weirdness surrounding this event.

http://business.financialpost.com/2011/01/31/canadian-dating-website-plenty-of-fish-hacked/
"Then it gets weirder".

A short time later, Mr. Frind’s wife allegedly received a call from Mr. Russo, who claimed he was the one who had hacked the Plenty of Fish Website and that Russian gangsters had since taken over his computer, were in the process of stealing all of Plenty of Fish’s data and were threatening to kill him. According to Mr. Frind:

 

[LilyMacBloom]

following is a POF blog spot it's long goes from Jan to May set up by MF

http://plentyoffish.wordpress.com/2011/01/31/plentyoffish-hacked/

also since MF was accused of updating Wikipedia about POF I looked it up there too

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlentyofFish

 

[dotr]

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...ds-for-dna-need-a-judges-okay/article2038011/
The OPP, in the Varaschin case, have prepared a “consent” form for people to sign, but Constable Peter Leon says it is an “internal document” and he would not show it to The Globe. Nor would the OPP say how many people will be canvassed for their DNA, or where these people will be found, only that they knew Ms. Varaschin “directly or indirectly,” whatever that means

This link is from a few days ago, sorry if already posted.
http://www.orangeville.com/localprofile/article/1014179--searching-for-a-murderer-s-dna
Leon said DNA collection is not a symptom of a cold case

“The investigation has not hit a wall,” he said. “This investigation is very active.”


Tips continue to come in.

“Every tip no matter how big or small is being followed up on,” Leon said. “The killer needs to be aware we will leave no stone unturned.”

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

I've been thinking about the closing of SV's POF account and her murder - do we know WHY she closed the account? Was it "simply" because she had a boyfriend or was it because of something much more sinister? For example, was Sonia feeling "stalked" at POF? And if so, have LE located potential stalkers?

Or was a man at POF feeling that Sonia was putting him off and saying 'no' to his offers of meeting with him?

Just thinking out loud here.....:twocents:

 

[dotr]

I wonder if POF generally connects people from one's own area, because Le had previously stated that the killer was familiar with the area - also wondering if SV might have had her profile pic. done by a professional photographer, ie. SL?..

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

I wonder if POF generally connects people from one's own area, because Le had previously stated that the killer was familiar with the area - also wondering if SV might have had her profile pic. done by a professional photographer, ie. SL?..

Need some help here, please - what does "SL" mean in the post I've quoted here.

Thanks......:innocent:

 

[dotr]

I'm not saying this is what happened. Nor am I saying this killer is particularly bright. I just thought it was odd that the access to where she lived and where her car was located is so close.

In the end, I am convinced the LE has a suspect, and they are waiting for confirmation on DNA etc. With the media being so quiet and no further information from the police, they must be close. It will probably end up being someone she knew.

This was posted sometime back and so far seems to be on the right track..

 

[matou]

The DNA collecting has begun:

http://www.cp24.com/servlet/an/loca...530_varaschin_homicide/20110530/?hub=CP24Home

"So far, people are "co-operating" with that aspect of the ongoing investigation, an OPP spokesperson told CP24 on Monday.

Police are asking men who knew or had contact with Varaschin around the time of her murder last summer to voluntarily give a DNA sample to investigators"

 

[matou]

A recap of the criminal profile done with help from the FBI, OPP and RCMP:

Lead investigators did release a general profile that they created of Varaschin’s killer, hoping it might help them “zero in” on the killer by sparking further tips. In the days after Varaschin’s death or the discovery of her body on Sept. 5, police say the killer may have:

-Increased alcohol or drug use.
-Seemed irritable, agitated or anxious.
-Moved from the area.
-Limited social interactions to avoid detection.
-Had unexplained absences from work, school or missed appointments.
-Displayed other unusual behavior.

The suspect police say is likely very familiar with the Orangeville area and the gravel Beech Grove Sideroad, near Mountainview Road in Caledon, where Varaschin’s body was dumped. He may know it because of “recreation, occupation or illegal activities.”

http://www.insidecaledon.com/news/2...p-work-on-profile-of-sonia-varaschins-killer/

 

[matou]

"He said the killer not only entered Varaschin’s Spring Street home, he moved her body into her vehicle, despite “the close confines of the townhouse complex.” After dumping her body, he then recklessly drove back near the scene of the murder and into town with blood that would have been “clearly visible on the outside of the car.” A week later, on Sept. 5, somebody walking a dog discovered Varaschin’s remains on a rual road in Caledon near Beech Grove Sideroad and Mountainview Road about 12 kilometres from her home."

http://www.insidecaledon.com/news/2...p-work-on-profile-of-sonia-varaschins-killer/

Another recap from the same article. I'm hoping for an arrest in the next week.

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

This is one huge thing that is driving me crazy:

"he then recklessly drove back near the scene of the murder and into town with blood that would have been “clearly visible on the outside of the car.”

I love 'small town Ontario' but this is far too much to comprehend. :banghead:

Thoughts?

 

[matou]

This is one huge thing that is driving me crazy:

"he then recklessly drove back near the scene of the murder and into town with blood that would have been “clearly visible on the outside of the car.”

I love 'small town Ontario' but this is far too much to comprehend. :banghead:

Thoughts?

HI NSU! I think the police mean that the suspect drove BACK near Sonia's place and the car would have had obvious blood visible on the outside of the car. Her car being white too, it would have been so risky to drive the car and have someone notice blood stains on it. He abandoned her car so close to where she was murdered. That fact will also be a large clue for police, I would expect.