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The LEO in this video says the pants and socks shown do actually belong to Kyron.
http://www.katu.com/home/video/96172474.html
http://www.katu.com/home/video/96172474.html
Case Review #1: Thread #6: LE Press Conferences & Releases: June 10 2010
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You're right. They did have a pic of the glasses when they posted Kyron's clothes to their website the next day, June 11:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...kyron+horman+glasses&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
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So, it could be as simple as them waiting to get that particular brand to show the public, or not.
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Reporter asks the LEO about Sauvie Island. This is the first mention of Sauvie, I think.
http://www.katu.com/home/video/96172474.html
http://www.katu.com/home/video/96172474.html
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Reporter asks if divers have been utilized because there is a large body of water nearby. LEO answers, "We cannot comment on that at this time."
http://www.katu.com/home/video/96172474.html
Around 9:00ish, reporter asks why California is actively involved or assisting in the investigation and "can you comment on this?" LEO says no.
***Who had family in California?
At 7:30, reporter asks if the search is going to other counties. LEO says, "no comment."
At 6:00, LEO is asked if the family is more "privy" to information than the media/public. Again, "no comment."
5:40ish, reporter says, Distinct mood change on Tuesday, "felt more urgent?" No answer by LEO, only thanking another sheriff.
At 2:10, reporter asks, "Do you still think this is an isolated case?" LEO says, "I can't answer that question."
Last question, reporter asks, "Have you collected all of the pictures from the SF that day?" LEO says, "I cannot answer that question."
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Seems to me that every time there is a no comment or I cannot answer, there is something of significance associated with that question. Might be interesting to put together a thread relating to those, although it would take FOREVER.
http://www.katu.com/home/video/96172474.html
Around 9:00ish, reporter asks why California is actively involved or assisting in the investigation and "can you comment on this?" LEO says no.
***Who had family in California?
At 7:30, reporter asks if the search is going to other counties. LEO says, "no comment."
At 6:00, LEO is asked if the family is more "privy" to information than the media/public. Again, "no comment."
5:40ish, reporter says, Distinct mood change on Tuesday, "felt more urgent?" No answer by LEO, only thanking another sheriff.
At 2:10, reporter asks, "Do you still think this is an isolated case?" LEO says, "I can't answer that question."
Last question, reporter asks, "Have you collected all of the pictures from the SF that day?" LEO says, "I cannot answer that question."
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Seems to me that every time there is a no comment or I cannot answer, there is something of significance associated with that question. Might be interesting to put together a thread relating to those, although it would take FOREVER.
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Yeah, and I know I'm jumping ahead a day, but not having them there with the clothes sparked what I called the "they found Kyron's glasses" scare. It just caused confusion.
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Air scent dogs also have been deployed, said Russ Gubele, president of Mountain Wave, an emergency communications and search and rescue group based in Gresham. They're trained to find a human being -- anyone -- in a particular site.
Searchers also have access to cadaver dogs, but Gubele wouldn't say whether any have checked the fields or the school. He also wouldn't say whether dogs have searched the school, but Gates said search teams have checked Skyline extensively several times.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_horman_searchers_press_o.html
Searchers also have access to cadaver dogs, but Gubele wouldn't say whether any have checked the fields or the school. He also wouldn't say whether dogs have searched the school, but Gates said search teams have checked Skyline extensively several times.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_horman_searchers_press_o.html
Frustrating. I have been trying to find out if cadaver dogs were used in the school.... Have to keep reading and looking...
All JMO
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I may be particularly dense, but I wonder if the dogs could track his scent in and then out of the school. Or is that too hard in such a scent-filled place?
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This is Lopez, a cadaver dog, on a Kyron search.
North Oregon Regional Search and Rescue (NORSAR)'s Photos - K. Horman search
Lopez water search
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=387683&id=118396974840758
Lopez had a "career change" from Guide dogs for the Blind in 2004. Currently holds certifications in wilderness air scent, Cadaver/HRD, Water Recovery. Lopez is a canine blood donor and a certified therapy dog.
http://www.norsar911.org/dogteams.html
BeanE
I have been trying to find out if a dog like Lopez was ever taken into Skyline.Especially in the basement area ? I know scent hounds were taken into the school -- with no hits ar all. Will keep looking... All JMO
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Oh sorry. I didn't know you meant specifically in the school. I would swear on a Bible that some time ago I found a link that said cadaver dogs had been used in the school, and that I posted it. Can't find it though.
I'm truly baffled, because after I found it, I've been under the impression they had. This doesn't make sense.
BeanE,
I never saw that link, but I have seen links about regular scenthounds taken in to Skyline, and the scenthounds found no trace of Kyron, but it was awhile after he disappeared.... Thanks for posting about it though...
All JMO
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Well I asked Kimster if she would use her magical alien powers for a super search, which she very kindly did :blowkiss:, but nothing turned up. I must be remembering something else. Maybe I was remembering Lopez on Sauvie.
I don't know what to think if they never used cadaver dogs at the school.
I don't know what to think if they never used cadaver dogs at the school.
Thanks so much for looking. By the way, is it a proven FACT that Kimster is an alien ? Or is it just an unsubstantiated rumor ?
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No it's definitely fact, not rumor. Just look at her picture! How much proof do you need?!
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I'm worrying about the possibility that cadaver dogs were not used at the school, and wondering what the reasons could be that they wouldn't use them.
LE has stated repeatedly that Kyron was last seen inside the school, was never seen leaving the school.
(I've posted the quotes throughout the forum, and am happy to snag the quotes and links if anyone wants them.)
The wording is important. Hold that thought for a sec.
Bloodhounds were used at the school.
(Reference: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5341354&highlight=bloodhound)
Keeping in mind that LE never said (watch wording), "Kyron never left the school", could it possibly be that the bloodhounds tracked him leaving the school, despite no one having seen him leave the school? And that that is the reason for the emphasis by LE and his bioparents that he is alive?
It seems in the distant reaches of my memory there is an article with one sentence about whether the dogs found anything at the school, and it was negative. I will search for it later today to get the exact wording, but I think it was a reporter's words, versus LE's words.
I have no knowledge or experience whatever in regards to bloodhounds, but it seems to me that, with Kyron there that morning, that they should have picked up a fresh scent from him? Or had too many hours passed?
LE has stated repeatedly that Kyron was last seen inside the school, was never seen leaving the school.
(I've posted the quotes throughout the forum, and am happy to snag the quotes and links if anyone wants them.)
The wording is important. Hold that thought for a sec.
Bloodhounds were used at the school.
(Reference: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5341354&highlight=bloodhound)
Keeping in mind that LE never said (watch wording), "Kyron never left the school", could it possibly be that the bloodhounds tracked him leaving the school, despite no one having seen him leave the school? And that that is the reason for the emphasis by LE and his bioparents that he is alive?
It seems in the distant reaches of my memory there is an article with one sentence about whether the dogs found anything at the school, and it was negative. I will search for it later today to get the exact wording, but I think it was a reporter's words, versus LE's words.
I have no knowledge or experience whatever in regards to bloodhounds, but it seems to me that, with Kyron there that morning, that they should have picked up a fresh scent from him? Or had too many hours passed?
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