Casey bought the tickets to PR?

  • #181
I agree with that. But if they aren't in a seat with a ticket, I think is the significant point being made here. And if the agents don't take a birth certificate they just take your word for the age. As a disorganized younger mom a few years ago, I know for a fact I did not have my son's birth certificate with me. He was 2 and in a stroller when I took him to the counter. They just made note that I had a lap child and did NOT ask me to provide identification. I'm sure this isn't SOP but this happened and has happened to other posters....post 9/11.

OMGoodness! Did you fly with a 2 yo in your lap?! I don't think I would have the energy for that!! :)

I think the typical thing is buying a ticket for the child. IMO, if Casey wanted her friends to take Caylee to PR, they wouldn't call attention to the fact that they had an almost 3 year old having to sit on a lap with no seat--this is just my opinion. I know that you don't need any ID for domestic flights for children--but I also think that people would remember Caylee's face, esp. from an Orlando airport--even if it was weeks later.
 
  • #182
OMGoodness! Did you fly with a 2 yo in your lap?! I don't think I would have the energy for that!! :)

Yes, I was a BROKE, disorganized mom at the time LOL. It was worth it not to have to buy another ticket.
 
  • #183
I do not believe for one moment that Casey sent Caylee to Peurto Rico with her friend Amy!!! Amy was angry with Casey when she got back and found that Casey had stolen the money from her and WROTE the checks she wrote.

This makes a lot of sense--Amy is the reason that Casey was rearrested--it's her stolen checks, so I think that the likelihood she is involved in hiding or transporting Caylee is slim. Not only could she get Casey in more trouble, but she could also recoup her losses with the reward money. I doubt she'll ever get her money back from the theft.
 
  • #184
If she did not have her own ticket and was considered a lap child you still need to put that in the reservation with the child's name.

You also have to provide ID for their age if you claim they are under 2 if they are questionable as she would be.

On International flights you have to have her BC or passport before she can board no matter what the age.
 
  • #185
I agree with that. But if they aren't in a seat with a ticket, I think is the significant point being made here. And if the agents don't take a birth certificate they just take your word for the age. As a disorganized younger mom a few years ago, I know for a fact I did not have my son's birth certificate with me. He was 2 and in a stroller when I took him to the counter. They just made note that I had a lap child and did NOT ask me to provide identification. I'm sure this isn't SOP but this happened and has happened to other posters....post 9/11.

This had to be before 911 - It cannot happen today. There are also video cameras for HS in all airports so it is easy to see if a child was on any flight.

Today you have to have a passport for ANY child, even an infant if it is an International flight.
 
  • #186
This had to be before 911 - It cannot happen today. There are also video cameras for HS in all airports so it is easy to see if a child was on any flight.

Today you have to have a passport for ANY child, even an infant if it is an International flight.

I'm not rehashing this lol. It can happen due to negligence on the part of people working the counters. It happens, it's not supposed to, but it does and not just to me but other members on the board as well. Post 9/11 as I stated. In a perfect world...no...but in the world that this case exists in...yes. I don't feel like the fact that this does happen is significant anyway since I don't believe Caylee boarded a plane. I was just stating the fact that it happens and that is all.

I hope I don't come off snarky, I'm just opposed to people telling me things cannot happen that I'm certain have happened.
 
  • #187
When traveling with babies/toddlers, it is suggested that you bring their certificate, but as long as the person they are with is over 18, having ID for the baby/toddler is not a necessary. PR is a part of the US and does not require a passport to enter into and leave out of back to the mainland. A flight from the mainland to PR, is like taking a flight from the mainland to Hawaii... it all belongs to the US and considered to be domestic travel.

Caylee was over 2... infant/babies can only fly in lap, on most airlines, when they are UNDER 2. For her to fly would have meant she had to have her own ticket for her own seat.
 
  • #188
If this info is correct, I don't think it is as simple as that. Her buying them all tickets is very strange and it's odd for Amy to be complaining about her stealing from her, yet not mentioning she bought their tickets?

I bet she charged them on her gmas card and asked everyone to pay her cash for them.
Probubly acted like she was doing them a favor.
 
  • #189
This makes a lot of sense--Amy is the reason that Casey was rearrested--it's her stolen checks, so I think that the likelihood she is involved in hiding or transporting Caylee is slim. Not only could she get Casey in more trouble, but she could also recoup her losses with the reward money. I doubt she'll ever get her money back from the theft.

I think Casey is the reason Casey was rearrested, no?
 
  • #190
  • #191
I'm not rehashing this lol. It can happen due to negligence on the part of people working the counters. It happens, it's not supposed to, but it does and not just to me but other members on the board as well. Post 9/11 as I stated. In a perfect world...no...but in the world that this case exists in...yes. I don't feel like the fact that this does happen is significant anyway since I don't believe Caylee boarded a plane. I was just stating the fact that it happens and that is all.

I hope I don't come off snarky, I'm just opposed to people telling me things cannot happen that I'm certain have happened.

Can't say that I blame ya!
 
  • #192
This had to be before 911 - It cannot happen today. There are also video cameras for HS in all airports so it is easy to see if a child was on any flight.

Today you have to have a passport for ANY child, even an infant if it is an International flight.

Recently I flew within the US to Texas very close to the border. I flew with my step son who is 6. I took records ie: birth certificate and photo ID. Not one person at any airport asked for proof of who he was. This got me thinking.... anyone could take a child anywhere. Especially a small child who does not have the speech of a six year old. I was floored that I did not have to have any ID for my child at all. Just a ticket to fly. Granted there are cameras but my point is if a child was scared enough not to speak out on their own identity or could not speak anyone can take your child anywhere. I was bothered by this.
 
  • #193
Recently I flew within the US to Texas very close to the border. I flew with my step son who is 6. I took records ie: birth certificate and photo ID. Not one person at any airport asked for proof of who he was. This got me thinking.... anyone could take a child anywhere. Especially a small child who does not have the speech of a six year old. I was floored that I did not have to have any ID for my child at all. Just a ticket to fly. Granted there are cameras but my point is if a child was scared enough not to speak out on their own identity or could not speak anyone can take your child anywhere. I was bothered by this.

Law enforcement did check all this out though but I understand what you're saying
 
  • #194
Law enforcement did check all this out though but I understand what you're saying

Ya that incident really has nagged at me. Doesn't make sense with all the "security" in place that a child can fly anywhere and not really be checked. Seems like the tracking system is thrown off. By the time someone is missing a child they could have been through numerous airports etc... I know this isn't the case here but something to ponder. Kind of like why aren't there seatbelts on school busses. lol
 
  • #195
Ya that incident really has nagged at me. Doesn't make sense with all the "security" in place that a child can fly anywhere and not really be checked. Seems like the tracking system is thrown off. By the time someone is missing a child they could have been through numerous airports etc... I know this isn't the case here but something to ponder. Kind of like why aren't there seatbelts on school busses. lol

Yeah I agree! I guess school buses are designed to never get into wrecks or the drivers are qualified and flawless! lol
 
  • #196
Recently I flew within the US to Texas very close to the border. I flew with my step son who is 6. I took records ie: birth certificate and photo ID. Not one person at any airport asked for proof of who he was. This got me thinking.... anyone could take a child anywhere. Especially a small child who does not have the speech of a six year old. I was floored that I did not have to have any ID for my child at all. Just a ticket to fly. Granted there are cameras but my point is if a child was scared enough not to speak out on their own identity or could not speak anyone can take your child anywhere. I was bothered by this.

You weren't trying to get a free seat. The whole birth certificate/passport issue within the US is for people with lap babies under 24 months. The airlines are generally strict about this--have been for a few years.

Otherwise, they don't required ID for little kids over the age of 2.
 
  • #197
You also have to provide ID for their age if you claim they are under 2 if they are questionable as she would be.

On International flights you have to have her BC or passport before she can board no matter what the age.



Puerto Rico is a US territory you wont need a passport to visit, but you do need ID.
 
  • #198
Is it documented anywhere when KC bought the tickets for Amy, Ricardo & Tony? Seems quite early in the relationship b/t KC & Tony for her to be paying for his airline ticket, esp. when he is still being supported (at least partially) by his parents (i.e. his dad paying his recent car repairs).
 
  • #199
Lets get the facts straight here. Casey's grandfather's assisted living fund payed for the trip if this is in fact the truth. It isn't like Casey actually knew what a real job was
 
  • #200
Caylee was over 2... infant/babies can only fly in lap, on most airlines, when they are UNDER 2. For her to fly would have meant she had to have her own ticket for her own seat.

But if they don't check a birth certificate or anything then you can just say how old the kid is and they take your word for it lol. Just sayin'...

Not that I think this happened in this case.
 

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