Casey & Family Psychological Profile #3

[OneLostGrl]

If this has been covered before, my apologies, but would love the analysis of this photo & quote & subsequent quote by Tupac, Pages 6 & 7

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1603690/casey-anthony-computer-report

Interesting dates when these were created, following Cindy's Myspace letter, dated July 3rd, which she hauntingly labels "My Caylee is Missing"

The photo of the girl, with the " Why do people kill people, who kill people, to show people that to kill people is Bad?" I think she uploaded this, as she found the hypocrisy, somewhat fulfilling.

And, the quote under the poster by Tupac, is like an answer to the question, which I feel was comforting to Casey in her brief moments of REALITY?

I see lots of self-analysis in her choices.

That's whatmany people use their myspace pages for.. Kinda like open- journals.

 

[OneLostGrl]

what is borderline personality disorder?? Oh and welcome to WS!!!

It is what I have been describing the home life of- what my mother has. What I believe Cindy suffers from.

 

[OneLostGrl]

Fri. night with NG and about 2 forensic psychologist and one or two regular psychologist speaking in a panel of six guest. This was the first time I saw so many of the TV pro's on a show together discussing the new jail house video. Even that one cute defense attorney NG has on spoke to the bad behavior displayed by KC. Hope that helps friend!

ahh, I missed it, darn!!

 

[OneLostGrl]

Wouldn't after 6 months in jail, the doctors would be able to tell if kc had any BPD and be treating her with meds by now? Seems she is something they can't treat with drugs.........beyond that point........IMO

There are no meds approved to treat bpd. It is a personality disorder.

 

[OneLostGrl]

Well, as the psychiatrist explained to us: Cycles of psychosis. The person is not ALWAYS out of touch with reality. Some borderlines can be high functioning and maintain employment. Always problems with intrapersonal relationships. Major splitting issues. Some suicidal ideation/or use of it fro attention or to get out of conflict. Our daughter was Baker Acted - taken by police as a danger to herself or others to the hospital 63 times by 18. Many doctors refuse to take borderlines as patients because of the manipulation, chaos and difficulty dealing with them. Our girl is 26 on Tues and still cannot remain in the same home more than 2-3 months before people get tired of the lying and playing the victim. She cannot keep a job though she is a genius. More than you wanted to know huh?

Omy gosh, I feel ya!! my mom is 63 and lives with me, she'd literally be homeless otherwise. She has burned every bridge she has come across.

Keep on !!

 

[robotdog]

seems to me - there was a lot of " non confrontations " going on in that house for a good many years..

what im trying to say is when kids are growing up you got lay down a few rules - im not saying go totally overboard but for goodness sakes lets start with the basics no stealing - no lying and show a little damn respect to the parents. :crazy:


now, im not talking about when my kids roll their eyes at me when im talking about something and trying to explain things to them they can roll their eyes till the cows come home come but dont be sassing back to me

the eye rolling --hehehehee
probably happens everyday but you got to NIP things when they are little and stick to it and if the kids STEAM over it

let em steam - it only lasts a couple minutes or a couple hours

GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESH

they needed to be MORE STEAMING in that house

 

[OneLostGrl]

Casey does have a tendency to indicate she already knows and understands everything, even when she clearly doesn't. I don't really think Casey knew about the meeting George proposed in advance, because minutes earlier she was droning about how she just wished she could be in a room with her family and speak privately with them. Then when George says this is possible she sidesteps and says she knows all that. I think this was all new information to her and she just handled it in her standard way. But that's just my opinion. The August 14 interview also took place at 9 am and ended with Casey's assurance that she'd write that note to Sherriff Beary right away, but as I remember, she gave her note to a guard rather late that evening-- sometime after 11 pm-- she was putting it off until JB could stop it, IMO.

I don't know what happened to the Happy detective and would also be interested to know!



As I remember, it was on JVM last night and the panel was essentially lauding Cindy and George for their communication style and the way they handle Casey. They said it was clear Cindy and George had some therapy and were excellent parents showing appropriate emotions and reactions. This thread popped into my head instantly and I imagined collective groans echoing across WS. :crazy:

I totally missed that show- wish I'd caughtit

 

[OneLostGrl]

Thank you for sharing and welcome to the boards. Your insight from a parents perspective is pretty valuable here. With all the medications out there in the psychiatric world it seems so difficult to believe that medications for these disorders just don't help much. Sometimes when a patient is having an episode I think they want the relief from the tranqulizer as much as the family. In what ways did therapy help you in how you reacted to your daughters acting out behavior and did it help you when she was hospitalized. So many questions, don't leave and only answer if you wish.

Now Karen.. surely you know about meds and personality disorders.

 

[mikeysmommom]

George is the sickest one of all ---- he is passive aggressive and very low key so its not obviously apparent he is the KING wingnut . I guarantee you Cindy and KC act the way they do because of him. He plays the fool and the victim -- he is neither. He is quite devious and the biggest liar of the bunch and has been fooling & flying under the radar for a long time.

ITA I think Casey is alot like her father.I would not be suprised if it was him who was looking up escorts and neck breaking.I honestly do not know how Cindy could live with the two of them.Didnt George have a sister with Mental problems? I think Casey inherited her problems from George.If CA is the controller of the family why the heck was she the only one supporting the household then comming home to take care of Caylee,plus shop ,cook and clean for 2 adults who both should have had jobs.JMO

 

[OneLostGrl]

Therapy helped my husband and I both. For our marriage, communication got better. Knowing what splitting was and stopping her from pitting us against each other. Dealing with the guilt. My bio Mom has mental illness. Knowing that it was okay to put her inpatient and that we were helping her. Learning not to get caught up in the content of her arguments and lies. Our social worker actually wrote up a letter for law enforcement indicating that kids with this disorder sometimes fabricate stories of abuse. We were trained in the hospital for theraputic holding to prevent her from harming herself or others. Actually, we brought homw our foster daughter from the hospital my daughter was in after being trained. LOL can you say glutton for punishment. We are stronger and happier as a couple. My daughter however still struggles mightily as we struggle with her issues. It is difficult. the major way the therapy helped me was with my anger. I was angry that we would never have the type of Mother - Daughter relationship that I felt we both deserved. I did not express my feelings AT ALL to her as she was violent. Having a safe place to express myself and knowing that I was not alone and that there were techniques to reduce the chaos and violence in my home was what helped me.

Your strength and honest love for your entire family is evident in each of your posts! I respect that!! :blowkiss:

 

[mikeysmommom]

Casey does have a tendency to indicate she already knows and understands everything, even when she clearly doesn't. I don't really think Casey knew about the meeting George proposed in advance, because minutes earlier she was droning about how she just wished she could be in a room with her family and speak privately with them. Then when George says this is possible she sidesteps and says she knows all that. I think this was all new information to her and she just handled it in her standard way. But that's just my opinion. The August 14 interview also took place at 9 am and ended with Casey's assurance that she'd write that note to Sherriff Beary right away, but as I remember, she gave her note to a guard rather late that evening-- sometime after 11 pm-- she was putting it off until JB could stop it, IMO.

I don't know what happened to the Happy detective and would also be interested to know!



As I remember, it was on JVM last night and the panel was essentially lauding Cindy and George for their communication style and the way they handle Casey. They said it was clear Cindy and George had some therapy and were excellent parents showing appropriate emotions and reactions. This thread popped into my head instantly and I imagined collective groans echoing across WS. :crazy:

Yes I saw it on JVM and the experts all said it and I agree.

 

[OneLostGrl]

Yes I saw it on JVM and the experts all said it and I agree.

Would you mind enlightening me as to who JVM is? I am clueless!

 

[Janis396]

Would you mind enlightening me as to who JVM is? I am clueless!

Jane Velez Mitchell -her show "Issues" is on right before Nancy Grace.

 

[kiki the parrot]

Oh, I totally have the same opinion. I was getting rather annoyed w/ how many times she said she "already knew" things. No one need tell her anything b/c she is omniscient. Please!:bang:

Omnitient, omnipotent, and omnipresent... yep... NPD, for sure lol. JMO

seems to me - there was a lot of " non confrontations " going on in that house for a good many years..

what im trying to say is when kids are growing up you got lay down a few rules - im not saying go totally overboard but for goodness sakes lets start with the basics no stealing - no lying and show a little damn respect to the parents. :crazy:

now, im not talking about when my kids roll their eyes at me when im talking about something and trying to explain things to them they can roll their eyes till the cows come home come but dont be sassing back to me

the eye rolling --hehehehee
probably happens everyday but you got to NIP things when they are little and stick to it and if the kids STEAM over it

let em steam - it only lasts a couple minutes or a couple hours

GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESH

they needed to be MORE STEAMING in that house

(bold mine) Say that! Thanks for breaking it down, nice and simple. You have me belly laughing so hard dog I swear... (it relieves the nervous tension from analyzing this bunch!)

ITA I think Casey is alot like her father.I would not be suprised if it was him who was looking up escorts and neck breaking.I honestly do not know how Cindy could live with the two of them.Didnt George have a sister with Mental problems? I think Casey inherited her problems from George.If CA is the controller of the family why the heck was she the only one supporting the household then comming home to take care of Caylee,plus shop ,cook and clean for 2 adults who both should have had jobs.JMO

(bold mine) Geesh the whole disordered bunch I mean now I really am ROFL listen if I were CA's husband I'd probably be looking up the same things, and a whole lot worse (barely able to type LM*O so hard omg, Lord forgive me... lol)
:floorlaugh:
(ETA: inappropriate laughter, oh dear...)

 

[radio]

Your strength and honest love for your entire family is evident in each of your posts! I respect that!! :blowkiss:

:wave: :wave:

Hey OLG!!!

Same goes for you in all of your posts!!!

cya

 

[Brini]

Omnitient, omnipotent, and omnipresent... yep... NPD, for sure lol. JMO



(bold mine) Say that! Thanks for breaking it down, nice and simple. You have me belly laughing so hard dog I swear... (it relieves the nervous tension from analyzing this bunch!)



(bold mine) Geesh the whole disordered bunch I mean now I really am ROFL listen if I were CA's husband I'd probably be looking up the same things, and a whole lot worse (barely able to type LM*O so hard omg, Lord forgive me... lol)
:floorlaugh:
(ETA: inappropriate laughter, oh dear...)

I think. though, in many ways CA LIKES being the sole support of the whole disordered assemblage. That gives her thew roles of martyr and savior, and allows her tons of control chips. This, in turn, gives KC a rationalization for the stealing that she, as a sociopath, would likely be doing ANYWAY.

In a strange and twister way, they all love (and hate) eachother. All are enmeshed and needy. "MOO," said the cow.

My sis and I got OUT of a home like that, BTW.

 

[radio]

There may be some psychological significance to Bella Vita. Lindsey Lohan sings La Bella Vita. I assume Casey Anthony would be a fan. I won't post the lyrics - here is the link:
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/lindsaylohan/beautifullifelabellavita.html

 

[Searchfortruth]

Therapy helped my husband and I both. For our marriage, communication got better. Knowing what splitting was and stopping her from pitting us against each other. Dealing with the guilt. My bio Mom has mental illness. Knowing that it was okay to put her inpatient and that we were helping her. Learning not to get caught up in the content of her arguments and lies. Our social worker actually wrote up a letter for law enforcement indicating that kids with this disorder sometimes fabricate stories of abuse. We were trained in the hospital for theraputic holding to prevent her from harming herself or others. Actually, we brought homw our foster daughter from the hospital my daughter was in after being trained. LOL can you say glutton for punishment. We are stronger and happier as a couple. My daughter however still struggles mightily as we struggle with her issues. It is difficult. the major way the therapy helped me was with my anger. I was angry that we would never have the type of Mother - Daughter relationship that I felt we both deserved. I did not express my feelings AT ALL to her as she was violent. Having a safe place to express myself and knowing that I was not alone and that there were techniques to reduce the chaos and violence in my home was what helped me.

The problem with medication and BPD, I thought, was that the person w/ BPD doesn't see themselves as sick and therefore no need for medication, therapy ?

 

[stilettos]

The problem with medication and BPD, I thought, was that the person w/ BPD doesn't see themselves as sick and therefore no need for medication, therapy ?

That is the problem once they reach their majority. When she was a child she was placed on about 20 or so different cocktails of medications. The only one that had ANY effect was Zyprexa. As soon as she reached 18 and was allowed to refuse medication, she did so. She feels (according to her) that her mind is stronger than others who had (according to her) this disorder in childhood. In the meantime, she is wreaking havoc on her life and the lives of others w/out it. IDK about Casey's NPD. Our daughter has the same tendancy to think she is omnipotent and "above" others.

 

[stilettos]

Welcome to WS I see many Borderline features in Casey. I also see them in Cindy.

I 'm sorry about the trouble you have had with your daughter! :blowkiss:

Thanks Lost. I am doing well except for the times of crisis. your posts have touched me...:blowkiss: