Casey & Family Psychological Profile #8

[sharpar]

Shame based families always obey the first rule of dysfunction - DONT TELL !!!

Its enforced without mercy and penalities are severly harsh .

Milsteads are very foolish - eventually without warning - their tailfeathers will be singed and they too will be banished and shunned.

 

[essies]

Shame based families always obey the first rule of dysfunction - DONT TELL !!!

Its enforced without mercy and penalities are severly harsh .

Milsteads are very foolish - eventually without warning - their tailfeathers will be singed and they too will be banished and shunned.

Then the Milsteads will probably sell their stories about the A's in order to get their pound of flesh for their efforts to "help" the A's! I can see them chastizing the A's the same way C&G did to RC on The Early Show!
Just be patient peeps! The fallout from this is gonna be HUGE!!!

 

[maswondering2]

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Then the Milsteads will probably sell their stories about the A's in order to get their pound of flesh for their efforts to "help" the A's! I can see them chastizing the A's the same way C&G did to RC on The Early Show!
Just be patient peeps! The fallout from this is gonna be HUGE!!!

well a lil bitter sweet justice in it all....suits me fine!

 

[countzero]

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Then the Milsteads will probably sell their stories about the A's in order to get their pound of flesh for their efforts to "help" the A's! I can see them chastizing the A's the same way C&G did to RC on The Early Show!
Just be patient peeps! The fallout from this is gonna be HUGE!!!

Yep, revenge is bittersweet. I hope someone locks them in a padded room and let them all duke it out and no one walks away unscathed. Better yet, put them all on WWE in a cage match. This time no one writes a script on how it ends and who wins. Just let'em at each other.

 

[sharpar]

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Then the Milsteads will probably sell their stories about the A's in order to get their pound of flesh for their efforts to "help" the A's! I can see them chastizing the A's the same way C&G did to RC on The Early Show!
Just be patient peeps! The fallout from this is gonna be HUGE!!!

Who would believe or buy it ? They are disgraced and are proven
liars. What a burden - to be a victim and no one
will give audience because of your own questionable past actions.

 

[essies]

Yep, revenge is bittersweet. I hope someone locks them in a padded room and let them all duke it out and no one walks away unscathed. Better yet, put them all on WWE in a cage match. This time no one writes a script on how it ends and who wins. Just let'em at each other.

:floorlaugh:Somebody call Vince McMahon!:floorlaugh:
I'll rent that pay-per-view!!

 

[The World According]

Regarding denial of Casey's pregnancy:

Does that mean that mean there was no prenatal care for Casey?? CA the 'nurse' had a young, pregnant daughter who was not receiving prenatal care?

You have hit on it, the seriousness of the ongoing problems that were risked by the lie, so you get a glimpse Casey being Cindy Jr. in stripper boots. People always seem genuinely puzzled at how Casey could tell such easily disprovable lies, now we see this behavior had been all she knew growing up. I think the lies and living as if you believe them did not begin with Casey's pregnancy. My favorite example of how Cindy seemed to buy into her own imagined family view was when she explained in the FBI or LE taped interview how outraged and offended she was when she found Jesse lying (fully clothed) watching TV with Casey when they were only engaged but not legally married yet. My Gram would say that is like closing the hen house door after they have all run out. This kid was going to marry her daughter, knowing there is no way in the world the child was his. Where was her outrage and offense to locate the bio dad and hold him accountable, morally and financially for this child? Instead she was angry with Jesse for lying down with her daughter "in her house", as if her house was honorable and beyond reproach as if she were saying, is nothing sacred. The righteous indignation was so misplaced, even a young boy like Jesse was keenly aware of the irony. He wasn't the one who harmed her daughter, he was the hero that was going to step up for her. This had no value to Cindy, and she emasculated George telling him she (Cindy) would handle it, "He wasn't the man of the house anymore". If this is what was modeled for Casey that you never have a standard that you hold yourself to and respect in others, it explains to me (SOMEWHAT) Casey's promiscuity and how she could betray friends and go through guys like water and find away to lie her way through life. George didn't help either, hiding and lying and hiding and lying that he had gambled and squandered and got caught up in financial schemes and lost their entire life savings and had their home foreclosed on before Cindy had any idea what hit her. That is just the one little gem he admitted to police. One can only imagine what he did day to day to lie about other matters that he deemed lesser. Lying to your spouse, being irresponsible and even living in a dream world these things may very well have contributed to the bad broken moral compass Casey has. Don't be shocked at all if we hear ALL ABOUT IT at the sentencing phase. There are people living in the inner cities with much worse parents than this, fathers who are in prison, mothers who are dope addicts and still, despite everything, they are able to decide to do better by their children. While her problems may be an interesting study, they will be studied while she is indeed in jail. I think their guilt for all that they did keeps them up at night knowing they created the Casey they have in front of them. It is a cautionary tale for parents about children learning what they live.

 

[sharpar]

But the ones who desperately need to take heed never think it applies to them .

 

[Searchfortruth]

I so agree with your post TWA...the pregnancy that was lied about at Rick's wedding was not the first time Cindy had shown Casey how to lie and Casey learned well. They both tell lies that no rational person would believe...not just "little white lies", but major, colossal, unbelievable lies. I wonder... do they not care that everyone knows they are lying or do they really think they will convince other's of their "mistruths" ?

 

[The Eunice Burns]

I so agree with your post TWA...the pregnancy that was lied about at Rick's wedding was not the first time Cindy had shown Casey how to lie and Casey learned well. They both tell lies that no rational person would believe...not just "little white lies", but major, colossal, unbelievable lies. I wonder... do they not care that everyone knows they are lying or do they really think they will convince other's of their "mistruths" ?

Search, IMO, CA really thinks she is persuasive. She has this arrogance and attitude of entitlement that anything she says or does is above reproach. She thinks she's smarter than everyone also and displays a total lack of humility. ( That wink at BC during the depo when she thinks she got it over on Morgan. :yuck: ) It emanates from her in all the interviews w/ the media, LE, and the depos. The toothbrush incident leaps to mind as something she did that most people would not have had the nerve to even contemplate. No sweat. She was entitled to do that, try and throw off LE a little bit and make things easier for KC.

MOO

 

[travelgal]

I've said the same thing on other threads,KK and I agree.Where are the relatives ,neighbors and co-workers? In cases like this we usually see people crawling out of the woodworks to talk.I suspect LE asked the family to stay silent to protect their testimony.RP was vocal for a while ,TG.But Cindy's co-workers,people who knew KC from her first job,people who knew them in Ohio,where is everybody?

Good point, MissJames, but I think they are all afraid of the A's particularly CA. People like the A's make others in the community just not make waves for fear of the wrath that might befall them. Family already knows what is best.

I do think all of these people: extended family, neighbors, co-workers, et al, also may fear JB& Co checking into their background as possible "suspects". JMO

 

[essies]

Just as KC didn't come out of the box this monster that we see before us-neither did CA! I'm not making excuses for either of them-but I sure would love to know more about the Ohio years!:waitasec:

 

[countzero]

Good point, MissJames, but I think they are all afraid of the A's particularly CA. People like the A's make others in the community just not make waves for fear of the wrath that might befall them. Family already knows what is best.

I do think all of these people: extended family, neighbors, co-workers, et al, also may fear JB& Co checking into their background as possible "suspects". JMO

Where were all the friends, family co workers July 17 08 and afterwards to give support/help? There was nothing to fear back then. The only family members, SP and RP weren't exactly giving glowing compliments and praises either.

The only people who came close to supporting CA/GA directly were the Milsteads and some loony wannabes.

The people who did help search were there to help and support T Miller, not the A clan directly since CA refused to assist Tim in his search efforts. :furious:

 

[essies]

Good point, MissJames, but I think they are all afraid of the A's particularly CA. People like the A's make others in the community just not make waves for fear of the wrath that might befall them. Family already knows what is best.

I do think all of these people: extended family, neighbors, co-workers, et al, also may fear JB& Co checking into their background as possible "suspects". JMO

Very good point! Years ago, the facility I worked at had a high profile custody battle going on over one of our patients. Everybody in the facility had their opinions about the patient and the 2 different sides. This was before HIPPA laws came into effect. Soon reporters and lawyers were coming around and trying to talk to staff. The administration was quick to tell the staff that IF you don't want to be part of this case and be called to court-refuse to comment!!
The patient was soon transferred to another facility-but I did see a couple of people that I had worked with give interviews on TV and get involved. They were scrutinized and blogged about on the internet, almost lost their license!
One almost had a nervous breakdown. In the end-the right decision was made for the patient (I believe).
I can't blame anyone for not speaking, unless they have critical information for LE. It's a decision that must be weighed heavily-cause it could be life altering!

 

[magic-cat]

Search, IMO, CA really thinks she is persuasive. She has this arrogance and attitude of entitlement that anything she says or does is above reproach. She thinks she's smarter than everyone also and displays a total lack of humility. ( That wink at BC during the depo when she thinks she got it over on Morgan. :yuck: ) It emanates from her in all the interviews w/ the media, LE, and the depos. The toothbrush incident leaps to mind as something she did that most people would not have had the nerve to even contemplate. No sweat. She was entitled to do that, try and throw off LE a little bit and make things easier for KC.

MOO

To me the very fact that Cindy DID consider that shows her own consciousness of guilt. She knows her daughter is guilty and she is willing to lie to assist in the cover-up at every turn. She is pathetic really, in her self-image. She believes she is powerful and she is weak. She believes she is influential and she lacks ANY influence whatsoever. She believes she is knowledgeable and yet lacks wisdom. She believes that her own personal ideology of "make it LOOK good from the outside in" is meaningful when it is completely without merit. She believes she is honorable when she is actually completely lacking the basics of sheer dignity. What SHE believes is her own mistruths(LIES is what the rest of us call them) and her own fantasy that she has created within her own mind.

She could have been powerful-and influential-and wise and dignified and honest. These are within each one of us and attainable by a mere choice. Her choices brought her and her entire family here, to this terrible place, where a young woman thinks that all she has to do is to tell a pack of lies and allow mommy and daddy to clean up the mess for her. Unfortunately, this is one mess unto which mistruths and misdeeds can only increase the agony and the shame. The truth would have brought them honor, although it would have also brought them pain. I think they are too far gone to ever even consider this concept: the truth shall set you free.

 

[magic-cat]

Where were all the friends, family co workers July 17 08 and afterwards to give support/help? There was nothing to fear back then. The only family members, SP and RP weren't exactly giving glowing compliments and praises either.

The only people who came close to supporting CA/GA directly were the Milsteads and some loony wannabes.

The people who did help search were there to help and support T Miller, not the A clan directly since CA refused to assist Tim in his search efforts. :furious:

Another point which, to me, shows Cindy's own "consciousness of guilt". She KNEW that was Caylee in the trunk. She KNEW she was dead. And she KNEW if she gave Tim an article of her clothing or a blanky or anything that had her scent on it then the likelihood of her body being found was amplified, and she refused to do this. One who truly believed their missing member was alive would never have refused such a request for assistance in the search efforts. They would have HAPPILY provided anything asked of them. The Anthonys did not do this and have continued NOT to do this straight down the line.

GUILTY is written all over all of their actions.

 

[essies]

Another point which, to me, shows Cindy's own "consciousness of guilt". She KNEW that was Caylee in the trunk. She KNEW she was dead. And she KNEW if she gave Tim an article of her clothing or a blanky or anything that had her scent on it then the likelihood of her body being found was amplified, and she refused to do this. One who truly believed their missing member was alive would never have refused such a request for assistance in the search efforts. They would have HAPPILY provided anything asked of them. The Anthonys did not do this and have continued NOT to do this straight down the line.

GUILTY is written all over all of their actions.

ITA And didn't Cindy say on The Early Show (when she and George were chastizing RC) that the family of someone missing should never turn down any kind of help? She's not just a liar, she's a hypocrite too!:furious:

 

[MAMABEAR]

Every once in awhile I think about CA saying how LE/FBI didn't even give out an Amber Alert. Like it was LE/FBI fault that Caylee wasn't found. 31 days CA---31 days.

 

[magic-cat]

ITA And didn't Cindy say on The Early Show (when she and George were chastizing RC) that the family of someone missing should never turn down any kind of help? She's not just a liar, she's a hypocrite too!:furious:

Yeah-hypocrisy in the tenth degree right there! They turned down ALL help that was not "ALIVE Caylee" based. They not only turned down help, but threw up roadblocks whenever and wherever they could to deter them that would help from being effective in their efforts. That interview where Cindy said that was one of THE most pathetic that I have seen to date. She showed her own belief in HER as THE most important and central figure in all of this, as she has done a million times before. At least she is consistent in her ideology! Lie and deceive and believe you are like a God!

Every once in awhile I think about CA saying how LE/FBI didn't even give out an Amber Alert. Like it was LE/FBI fault that Caylee wasn't found. 31 days CA---31 days.

Amber alerts are only effective IMMEDIATELY upon someone being abducted, as they can set up alerts on the highways etc, for LE and citizens to be on alert and on the look-out for the individual. 31 days is WAY too late for an Amber alert. This philosophy of theirs, point the finger of blame at ANYONE rather than one of THEIR OWN, is a central THEME in this sort of disfunctional scenario. I have heard it a million times. THEY, the finger pointers, are ALWAYS the victims, and they have been VICTIMIZED (according to themselves) in EVERY situation imaginable. It is a mark OF their disfunction every time they do this and it is OBVIOUS to trained professionals and easily recognizable as part of the disfunction.

 

[kageykaren]

Doesn't it make cA look foolish when LE agent told her something like this, "We have lost 31 days in trying to find Caylee." CA looked at the interviewer flippantly and said something to the effect of, "We'll it's less time for me because I talked with kC every day. This Grandmother CA has avoided talking about intimate things concerning the life and times of Caylee, like the plague. All we have heard from her is Caylee is special, "Just look at her eyes" She likes chili, a swim,the dogs, her baby doll, teddy bear. We have heard Caylee described by others that have met her, but I'm just talking CA even though all 3 of the other members in the family have said little about their experience daily with Caylee. You no why, because they weren't with her in the daytime. For me the little snippetts of her life quoted by family members aren't enough. All children have their moments and fears that are as important to pay attention to. Sometimes I wonder what could have made those sad eyes so blue. The far away look Cayleey has in the sweet picture with her hand rested on her face haunts me a bit. Those eyes in that particular photo look as if they want to speak almost like the Mona Lisa.