Casey Kasem has passed away ~ Rest in peace, Casey

  • #281
If he was diagnosed in 07 I would be highly suspicious of a POA signed in 11. Did she obtain a doctor's certification that he was competent at that time to be signing legal docs? Somehow I doubt it.
 
  • #282
Believe it or not, at least in Pennsylvania, having a recorded diagnosis of dementia does not automatically mean that a court will declare the patient to be incompetent. And unless a person has been legally declared to be incompetent to manage ALL of their affairs, they may continue to make their own health care decisions and to sign legal documents such as wills.

In order to determine competency or incompetency, judges want to hear testimony and medical findings that the person specifically is deficient in say ability to make decisions about financial matters. Or that they have delusions. Or hallucinations. Things that really, really interefere with their cognitive abilities.

Also in Pennsylvania there are cases where a financial guardianship only may be created by the court. So basically, that would mean that the court feels that while the patient may be incompetent to handle their own finances, for all other actions they have not been found to be incompetent.

These can be complicated issues and a lot of it is determined by individual state laws. So the criteria may be different from one state to the next. Also, an incompetency action can be quite expensive to bring to court. I explored the options on this last year and my attorney wanted a $5,000 retainer. He told me he has seen them cost $10,000 by the time all was said and done in a case where the person contests the action. Which they have the right to do.

So who knows at this point whether or not Casey has ever been declared to be incompetent. I suspect that he has not. And that would explain why Jean might not want the kids around him much. These folks do have dementia and they are easily subject to manipulation by unscrupulous sorts.

I also feel that in this case, with $80 million on the table, no matter what anyone says, it certainly IS "about the money".
 
  • #283
Judge reverses decision. Kasem to be taken off food and hydration: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...y-kasem-feeding-fluid-tubes-article-1.1825866

It appears Jean caused quite a scene in court. The article explains that:
Judge Daniel S. Murphy said he changed his mind after receiving medical records from St. Anthony’s Hospital near Seattle saying the ailing “American Top 40” host was not responding to artificial nutrition and fluids, leading to painful complications.
“It would be acutely harmful for Mr. Kasem to have nutrition and hydration restored at this time,” the judge said. “This was at the advisement of doctors at St. Anthony’s.”
He said doctors at St. Anthony’s did try artificial hydration, and “it resulted in Mr. Kasem almost drowning.”
“This is very, very heart-wrenching,” Martin said. “(Mr. Kasem) is receiving morphine drips. Hydration might be a terrible way to die, but he’s receiving medication to keep him comfortable.”
 
  • #284
Believe it or not, at least in Pennsylvania, having a recorded diagnosis of dementia does not automatically mean that a court will declare the patient to be incompetent. And unless a person has been legally declared to be incompetent to manage ALL of their affairs, they may continue to make their own health care decisions and to sign legal documents such as wills.

In order to determine competency or incompetency, judges want to hear testimony and medical findings that the person specifically is deficient in say ability to make decisions about financial matters. Or that they have delusions. Or hallucinations. Things that really, really interefere with their cognitive abilities.

Also in Pennsylvania there are cases where a financial guardianship only may be created by the court. So basically, that would mean that the court feels that while the patient may be incompetent to handle their own finances, for all other actions they have not been found to be incompetent.

These can be complicated issues and a lot of it is determined by individual state laws. So the criteria may be different from one state to the next. Also, an incompetency action can be quite expensive to bring to court. I explored the options on this last year and my attorney wanted a $5,000 retainer. He told me he has seen them cost $10,000 by the time all was said and done in a case where the person contests the action. Which they have the right to do.

So who knows at this point whether or not Casey has ever been declared to be incompetent. I suspect that he has not. And that would explain why Jean might not want the kids around him much. These folks do have dementia and they are easily subject to manipulation by unscrupulous sorts.

I also feel that in this case, with $80 million on the table, no matter what anyone says, it certainly IS "about the money".

In California, the term "competency" is only used in connection with fitness to stand trial. "Capacity" is probably the better term.

But whatever term, Kasem has necessarily been found to be incapable of caring for himself or making decisions for himself so a conservatorship was ordered and his daughter is making all medical decisions for him. All of them. She stands in his shoes.

There is no need for a financial conservatorship as what is happening to his finances is not the problem. No one has alleged that his wife is mismanaging their money and thus she remains in control of Kasem's finances. Kasem's kids have never sought legal control of his finances nor stated that she was mismanaging them.

Further, there is no way he has the capacity to change his will at this time. So there is no risk that the kids can manipulated him into changing his will, by being at his death bed. Allowing him to die, which is what the daughter wants, can in no way help her change the will or gain more money than what was in the trust. Last I heard, she and her siblings will split a two million dollar trust. That 80 million? It all goes to Jean and Liberty, apparently.
 
  • #285
Wow.

"After the hearing, Martin said he thought the judge's decision was "going to cause Mr. Kasem more pain and suffering. This is pretty typical for the way Mrs. Kasem has conducted herself in the case."

Later Kerri Kasem issued a statement: "We (Kerri, Mike, Julie and Casey's brother) have been at the hospital by his side, sleeping in his room for nine days during this difficult time. We wish Jean would come back to Washington, and be by his side in his last moments."

http://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/...dge-sides-wife-over-medical-treatment-n126331

BBM. If there remains any question as to who is in the right, this statement would seem to clear things up for me. After being denied the right to see their father for about a year total, and having to fight in court for that right and to make sure he is being cared for and dying peacefully, they still want Jean to be there with them and their father. That's gracious. They are truly looking after what HE would want I think and that's to have everyone together, around him.
 
  • #286
BBM. If there remains any question as to who is in the right, this statement would seem to clear things up for me. After being denied the right to see their father for about a year total, and having to fight in court for that right and to make sure he is being cared for and dying peacefully, they still want Jean to be there with them and their father. That's gracious. They are truly looking after what HE would want I think and that's to have everyone together, around him.

This is the proper thing for the children to say and do. I still believe that Jean deserves a lot of compassion because of what she is going through. We have no way of knowing what has actually gone on during the last year, but certainly Mrs. Kasem is very unstable now. Attorneys on both sides could have made things a bit easier for all.
 
  • #287
This is the proper thing for the children to say and do. I still believe that Jean deserves a lot of compassion because of what she is going through. We have no way of knowing what has actually gone on during the last year, but certainly Mrs. Kasem is very unstable now. Attorneys on both sides could have made things a bit easier for all.

I appreciate what you're saying. I too was a caretaker for my father who died of cancer. I well know the toll it takes. But I have little compassion for Jean.

See, we do have a way of knowing what's happened the last year. The attorneys for Mr. Kasem and for his children have done nothing wrong. It is well documented what all the parties, the attorneys, the court, etc., have done in the last year. It is not a he said she said. There are too many people in addition to the parties in this case, such as Mr. kasem's brother, his sister in law, and all his long-term friends, who have attested that Jean has always been possessive, jealous and controlling and alienated all of them 33 years ago. These same people have all attested that the moment Mr. Kasem became incapacitated, she cut off contact.

That's cruel. Perhaps she has a mental disorder but if so, while it could have been exacerbated by her husband's illness it certainly wasn't caused by it.

I actually don't think, though, that her actions are those of a burdened wife. I think the are the actions of a crazy person who wanted to for years and finally was able to make sure none of the people she disliked had access to what was hers - Mr. Kasem.

It is the height of cruelty to keep a dying man and his family, his children, apart. She did that. Not them.
 
  • #288
on hydration death. My father chose to go at home, with hospice nurses checking in and with my mother and sister and I caring for him. He allowed for pain management but did not allow for any artificial nutrition or hydration.

I can say that he went very peacefully and comfortably in just the way he wanted.

Some might see withholding hydration or nutrition as cruel. I do not as I have firsthand witnessed the end without those things and it was exactly as my father wished it. He had moments of consciousness which decreased as the days past. Most of the time he slept peacefully surrounded by family and the music he dearly loved.

The last two days he never regained consciousness but I am confident he did not suffer.

I wish Mr. Kasem Godspeed on his journey and peace at long last from the fighting and pettiness. Go with God Sir.
 
  • #289
BBM. If there remains any question as to who is in the right, this statement would seem to clear things up for me. After being denied the right to see their father for about a year total, and having to fight in court for that right and to make sure he is being cared for and dying peacefully, they still want Jean to be there with them and their father. That's gracious. They are truly looking after what HE would want I think and that's to have everyone together, around him.

I agree
 
  • #290
I appreciate what you're saying. I too was a caretaker for my father who died of cancer. I well know the toll it takes. But I have little compassion for Jean.

See, we do have a way of knowing what's happened the last year. The attorneys for Mr. Kasem and for his children have done nothing wrong. It is well documented what all the parties, the attorneys, the court, etc., have done in the last year. It is not a he said she said. There are too many people in addition to the parties in this case, such as Mr. kasem's brother, his sister in law, and all his long-term friends, who have attested that Jean has always been possessive, jealous and controlling and alienated all of them 33 years ago. These same people have all attested that the moment Mr. Kasem became incapacitated, she cut off contact.

That's cruel. Perhaps she has a mental disorder but if so, while it could have been exacerbated by her husband's illness it certainly wasn't caused by it.

I actually don't think, though, that her actions are those of a burdened wife. I think the are the actions of a crazy person who wanted to for years and finally was able to make sure none of the people she disliked had access to what was hers - Mr. Kasem.

It is the height of cruelty to keep a dying man and his family, his children, apart. She did that. Not them.

I have read many past articles and I tried to be compassionate towards Jean Kasem but I think like you do Gitana1.
 
  • #291
on hydration death. My father chose to go at home, with hospice nurses checking in and with my mother and sister and I caring for him. He allowed for pain management but did not allow for any artificial nutrition or hydration.

I can say that he went very peacefully and comfortably in just the way he wanted.

Some might see withholding hydration or nutrition as cruel. I do not as I have firsthand witnessed the end without those things and it was exactly as my father wished it. He had moments of consciousness which decreased as the days past. Most of the time he slept peacefully surrounded by family and the music he dearly loved.

The last two days he never regained consciousness but I am confident he did not suffer.

I wish Mr. Kasem Godspeed on his journey and peace at long last from the fighting and pettiness. Go with God Sir.

Thank you for your story
 
  • #292
on hydration death. My father chose to go at home, with hospice nurses checking in and with my mother and sister and I caring for him. He allowed for pain management but did not allow for any artificial nutrition or hydration.

I can say that he went very peacefully and comfortably in just the way he wanted.

Some might see withholding hydration or nutrition as cruel. I do not as I have firsthand witnessed the end without those things and it was exactly as my father wished it. He had moments of consciousness which decreased as the days past. Most of the time he slept peacefully surrounded by family and the music he dearly loved.

The last two days he never regained consciousness but I am confident he did not suffer.

I wish Mr. Kasem Godspeed on his journey and peace at long last from the fighting and pettiness. Go with God Sir.

Same with my mom. She had a living will. She passed peacefully.
 
  • #293
Adding to the discussion of end of life protocols that some hospices oversee:

Morphine or its alternatives can be administered via suppositories or via patches to allow the patient to pass 'naturally' but free of pain.

The patient's mouth can be hydrated with mists or swabbing as a comfort measure.

Source: Personal experiences dating back to 1992.

~jmo~
 
  • #294
Wow, I hadn't kept up-to-date with all of the news so this headline just caught me by surprise.

WTHeck is going on?

Was Jean trying to keep the kids away because she knew that they would want to withhold food and water and Jean wanted Casey to continue to live? Is that why Jean took him and fled the day after Kerri saw him at the facility he was in? Heartbreaking!!



Judge: Daughter can stop food for Casey Kasem

As of last week, Kasem still had the ability to communicate nonverbally, Haney said.

Kasem's wife of 34 years pleaded with the judge to restore food and fluids to her husband, who has a form of dementia.

<<<snipped for copyright>>>

Haney said Murphy's comments about Jean Kasem's decisions were wrong and she took her husband to Washington to be evaluated by a specialist. Her decisions "in no way contributed to his situation," Haney said.

Casey Kasem remains in critical condition in a Washington hospital. Martin said the former "America's Top 40" host has not received food or fluids since Friday.

http://www.kirotv.com/ap/ap/entertainment/judge-daughter-can-stop-food-for-casey-kasem/ngJn9/
 
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  • #296
Casey Kasem is living out the final days of his life by listening to the best days ... his family has been playing old recordings of his "American Top 40" show while he lay dying in hospice.

Casey is currently in a Washington hospice with his family by his side ... including his daughters, son, and brother. Family sources tell us ... the family is playing old broadcasts of Kasem's legendary radio show ... the crowning achievement of his career.

Now that the family has stopped giving him medication, food, and water ... they're just trying to make him as comfortable as possible ... and they believe the broadcasts will give him great enjoyment.
 
  • #297
Casey Kasem is living out the final days of his life by listening to the best days ... his family has been playing old recordings of his "American Top 40" show while he lay dying in hospice.

Casey is currently in a Washington hospice with his family by his side ... including his daughters, son, and brother. Family sources tell us ... the family is playing old broadcasts of Kasem's legendary radio show ... the crowning achievement of his career.

Now that the family has stopped giving him medication, food, and water ... they're just trying to make him as comfortable as possible ... and they believe the broadcasts will give him great enjoyment.

Precious...
 
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  • #300
Judge reverses decision. Kasem to be taken off food and hydration: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...y-kasem-feeding-fluid-tubes-article-1.1825866

It appears Jean caused quite a scene in court. The article explains that:

Quote from the above article that explains EXACTLY what is going on in Jean's mind and what is driving her. She told on herself.


“(Kerri) has had in her possession her father less than a week and decided to stop all medication and kill him,” she testified.

In her possession her father?????!!!!!! Mr. Kasem is NOT property. And to Jean he is. She believes she owns Casey and as such his other children do not deserve to see or be around Casey.
 

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