Casey Kasem has passed away ~ Rest in peace, Casey

  • #241
What a mess.

It would be difficult to make those decisions for anyone. But maybe he did have conversations years ago about end of life measures.

If eating and hydrating are causing him more pain...then really is Kerri and doctors making the wrong decisions. Sometimes we have to love someone enough to let them go.
 
  • #242
But no pain meds? So just starve him, let him get dehydrated but give him no pain meds? That sounds like torture to me.

And if a doctor told me to do that to anyone that I love, I would be telling them to move along to someone else as I would be finding a competent doctor to be treating my loved one instead.

MOO
 
  • #243
I dunno Torris. His wife wasn't giving him pain meds. Maybe there's a reason we are not aware of?
 
  • #244
But no pain meds? So just starve him, let him get dehydrated but give him no pain meds? That sounds like torture to me.

And if a doctor told me to do that to anyone that I love, I would be telling them to move along to someone else as I would be finding a competent doctor to be treating my loved one instead.

MOO
I have to agree. I don't understand how giving pain meds, water, and feedings are more painful than withholding them and letting the person starve and dehydrate. If this is the case, Casey only has one week at best to live. The end is near for him. Jean had better get used to his family being there and had better allow them at whatever funeral/memorial service is held for him.
 
  • #245
What a mess.

It would be difficult to make those decisions for anyone. But maybe he did have conversations years ago about end of life measures.

If eating and hydrating are causing him more pain...then really is Kerri and doctors making the wrong decisions. Sometimes we have to love someone enough to let them go.
I also find it hard to believe Jean that Casey wanted to die in isolation. I'd want to see that have been put in writing before he got dementia. I still think Jean is manipulating him. Nancy Reagan didn't let Ronald make any more public appearances when his dementia worsened, but it didn't reek of manipulation the way this situation does. Jean just HATES his whole first family. If she had her way, they wouldn't have existed, only her and her daughter, IMO.
 
  • #246
^^^ Thank you!
 
  • #247
What a mess.

It would be difficult to make those decisions for anyone. But maybe he did have conversations years ago about end of life measures.

If eating and hydrating are causing him more pain...then really is Kerri and doctors making the wrong decisions. Sometimes we have to love someone enough to let them go.

I agree about letting someone go, but taking away pain meds and hydration sounds like torture. Bless this poor man. I hope he is allowed to pass peacefully now.
 
  • #248
  • #249
Casey is not a Washington resident though, correct? And it sounds like Kerri and his doctor (if what Kerri claimed to the courts is true) is trying to withhold medications. This would include pain meds, right? And is Casey able to say that he wants to end his life now? After all, with his condition he may not be able to say what he wants at this time.

MOO
 
  • #250
Casey is not a Washington resident though, correct? And it sounds like Kerri and his doctor (if what Kerri claimed to the courts is true) is trying to withhold medications. This would include pain meds, right? And is Casey able to say that he wants to end his life now? After all, with his condition he may not be able to say what he wants at this time.

MOO

Are you as confused over this as I am? None of this makes sense. Praying for this dear soul. I watched him for years, and was a huge fan. Still am.
 
  • #251
Casey is not a Washington resident though, correct? And it sounds like Kerri and his doctor (if what Kerri claimed to the courts is true) is trying to withhold medications. This would include pain meds, right? And is Casey able to say that he wants to end his life now? After all, with his condition he may not be able to say what he wants at this time.

MOO

We don't know if he is or not. Maybe Jean took him there to establish residence. No one should suffer because a family member isn't ready to let them go.


Lewy Body Dementia symptoms:

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/lewy-body-dementia/basics/symptoms/con-20025038
 
  • #252
  • #253
I can't believe that a multi-millionaire would be staying in a house like the one they had on the video with him being removed. Was it a nursing home? It looks like Jean sure didn't feel like spending much money to keep her husband comfortable. The place looks like a dump (for a millionaire's lifestyle), I'm so confused.
 
  • #254
http://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/...dge-sides-wife-over-medical-treatment-n126331

"This is an unusual circumstance," countered attorney Troy Martin, who represents Kerri Kasem and spoke with Casey Kasem's doctors before the hearing. "Feeding and hydration causes him tremendous amounts of pain and further infection and pneumonia."

Doctors in Washington have said that Casey Kasem is near the end of his life, but the family fight over his medical care took a dramatic turn in Los Angeles Monday when his wife of 33 years broke down in a courthouse corridor, fell to her knees and wailed over and over, "Please don't let them kill my husband!"
 
  • #255
My mother-in-law died last year with Lewy Body Dementia. About 10 days before she died she became unable to swallow. If a person is given food and water orally and they can't swallow, they will aspirate it and choke to death. We had the option of feeding and hydrating her via a tube, but that was not her wish. She was given pain medication, but she just drifted into a week-long sleep, and then died after having no food, water, or meds. The body dies on its own timetable, but likely this is the stage that Mr. Kasem is in. Not everyone in the family agreed with our decision, but she had been ill for 10 years, virtually paralyzed and unable to speak for most of that time.

So it's likely that some of the family members are being pragmatic-and kind- and others cannot let go so easily. This probably isn't a case of bad family vs. bad wife. I'm sure it's hard for Jean to let her husband go, and being a caregiver for a long time leaves a person in poor emotional shape.
 
  • #256
My mother-in-law died last year with Lewy Body Dementia. About 10 days before she died she became unable to swallow. If a person is given food and water orally and they can't swallow, they will aspirate it and choke to death. We had the option of feeding and hydrating her via a tube, but that was not her wish. She was given pain medication, but she just drifted into a week-long sleep, and then died after having no food, water, or meds. The body dies on its own timetable, but likely this is the stage that Mr. Kasem is in. Not everyone in the family agreed with our decision, but she had been ill for 10 years, virtually paralyzed and unable to speak for most of that time.

So it's likely that some of the family members are being pragmatic-and kind- and others cannot let go so easily. This probably isn't a case of bad family vs. bad wife. I'm sure it's hard for Jean to let her husband go, and being a caregiver for a long time leaves a person in poor emotional shape.

BBM

When you know from the time of diagnosis that your loved one has an incurable disease, it is doubly difficult. You teeter between caring for them, wanting them to beat the disease and knowing they won't.
 
  • #257
My bio dad died from pancratic cancer in '91...the last week was spent in a coma without substance or pain killers...I was advised that he was beyond feeling pain and his body would gradually shut down...as he was on hospice I knew he was dying as saw this as a natural occurance and not as withholding substance...23 years later I still look on the experience as humane and natural.

I pray Kasey's demise is just as peaceful. :-(
 
  • #258
BBM

When you know from the time of diagnosis that your loved one has an incurable disease, it is doubly difficult. You teeter between caring for them, wanting them to beat the disease and knowing they won't.

Tell me about it. :(
 
  • #259
I can't believe that a multi-millionaire would be staying in a house like the one they had on the video with him being removed. Was it a nursing home? It looks like Jean sure didn't feel like spending much money to keep her husband comfortable. The place looks like a dump (for a millionaire's lifestyle), I'm so confused.
No, it was friends of her parents that they knew in Guam in the 60's. Neither Jean nor Casey knew them.
 
  • #260
My mother-in-law died last year with Lewy Body Dementia. About 10 days before she died she became unable to swallow. If a person is given food and water orally and they can't swallow, they will aspirate it and choke to death. We had the option of feeding and hydrating her via a tube, but that was not her wish. She was given pain medication, but she just drifted into a week-long sleep, and then died after having no food, water, or meds. The body dies on its own timetable, but likely this is the stage that Mr. Kasem is in. Not everyone in the family agreed with our decision, but she had been ill for 10 years, virtually paralyzed and unable to speak for most of that time.

So it's likely that some of the family members are being pragmatic-and kind- and others cannot let go so easily. This probably isn't a case of bad family vs. bad wife. I'm sure it's hard for Jean to let her husband go, and being a caregiver for a long time leaves a person in poor emotional shape.
Since he was already getting Ensure I was under the impression that Casey already had a G-tube in place for feedings. I agree that with dementia he should not be fed orally, as the risk of aspiration is too great. I was a Speech Pathologist who worked with these patients for 13 years.
 

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