Casey To Serve One Year Probation

[FLmom777]

There is such a thing of transfer of probation, so I dont see why her probation could not be served wherever she was. Hopefully her team looks into that. jmo

Probation can be served in other locations, but she still has to appear in Orange County to get started. She can apply to have it transferred, but it is not as simple as just saying she wants to move. She would have to show a compelling reason for it, such as a job. It is not as easy as some of the TH's are making it sound. It would not happen immediately. There is a process, and we all know how long government red tape can take.

 

[Niner]

This is O/T & Mods I apologize, but so many caring people are pm ing me. If you have a better place please let me know. I pm'd Tricia about a thread but no response yet.
http://www.wkyt.com/searchresults?searchKeywords=berry+hall&dateRange=60

A trial date is moved up for a Floyd County man charged in a double murder case.

Berry Hall is accused of shooting and killing his niece Lisa Tackett and her husband Alan in March of 2008.


The trial was scheduled for October 3rd, but Thursday the judge moved it to September 26th due to scheduling conflicts.

ETA. I thank everyone for the pm's you guys are my rock.

Is there a thread here at WS yet?? :waitasec:

Don't forget to change your "signature" Tulessa to the new trial date!!

 

[sweetmop]

In what way is probation for the check felonies all about a little girl and justice for her murder?

I was talking exclusively about the probation for the check charges, which is in no way related to the death of Caylee.

If it is true that this is all about a little girl and justice for her murder, then something is wrong with the Florida justice system. KC was given her day in court and acquitted of the murder charges, which in America that means you are not guilty of those charges. For a state to pull KC back after she has left the state, and put her in harms way, for the purpose of justice for Caylee's murder is unconstitutional, and would in and of itself be considered an injustice. Injustice for KC is injustice for us all.

For over 2 years, KC sat in jail, facing murder charges, and looking at the DP. She may have felt at least a smidgeon of fear, every day for those 2 plus years. Being forced to serve her probation in Orlando, where no one from Orlando wants her, just puts her in jeopardy, and places any innocent bystander who happens to be where she walks by, or reports to, or grabs a Starbuck's from, or goes to work, in jeopardy also. How is that justice for Caylee? How does endangering the lives of innocent people serve as justice for Caylee?

As always, my entire post is my opinion only.

You really believe she's in danger?
I'm sorry, I don't. Yes, there are many people that hate her, but I don't think she's in any more jeopardy than you or I.
CFCA loves attention, and that's what all of this is about.
The DT is trying to stir up more attention for her, and put her in the spotlight once again. They (the DT) love it as much as she does!

jmo.

 

[guardangel]

For over 2 years, KC sat in jail, facing murder charges, and looking at the DP. She may have felt at least a smidgeon of fear, every day for those 2 plus years. Being forced to serve her probation in Orlando, where no one from Orlando wants her, just puts her in jeopardy, and places any innocent bystander who happens to be where she walks by, or reports to, or grabs a Starbuck's from, or goes to work, in jeopardy also. How is that justice for Caylee? How does endangering the lives of innocent people serve as justice for Caylee?

As always, my entire post is my opinion only.

partial snip

FCA feel fear? I highly doubt it. She was in isolation when she was in jail, she had no one around her to fear. FCA should serve her probation in Orlando because that's what the Judge decided. Shewill reap what she sowed.

IMHOO justice is served for Caylee whenever FCA is made to do anything directed and aquired by a court of law.

 

[mac66]

To me, the obvious song is "Devil with the Blue Dress On", but I kinda of like that song and I'm not giving it to a murderer.

 

[krkrjx]

IMO, a large part of the reason KC is "hated" is because of her defense team. If they were conducting themselves in a more professional manner, many people would not be quite as upset. No one likes to see a murderer go free, in particular a child murder, but if the DT were taking care of business on KC's behalf quietly, out of the limelight, things would cool off quickly. For an attorney to publicly proclaim a judge's order "stupid" is anything but professional and it not only puts him in a bad light, it reflects on his client.

Mason commented that KC is one who can turn her life around and recover from all that has happened to her. OK...that right there is an example of a statement that can incite. All that has happened to her is a direct result of her own actions.

If this DT really believes in KC and has faith that she is capable of turning her life around and living right, why are they so adamant that she not do probation? If KC were to be in society properly supervised for a year she might actually learn a lesson--one that she has never in her life had to learn. In short, probation could be a very good thing for this offender, and I cannot grasp why her DT is so dead-set against it given all their claims of wanting to do what's right for their client. It is not just about KC's safety in Orlando--the DT believes she should not have to serve probation at all, in any community.

I personally do not care where KC serves probation, as long as she serves. And it needs to be structured, as probation is supposed to be. There needs to be proper accounting made. The DT should just bring KC in to report as ordered, request a transfer to another state and then let the process unfold per DOC protocol. Whether a transfer is granted or not is between KC and her PO. I have preferences on what I would like to see happen, but my preferences are irrelevant.

 

[Concerned Papa]

In what way is probation for the check felonies all about a little girl and justice for her murder?

I was talking exclusively about the probation for the check charges, which is in no way related to the death of Caylee.

If it is true that this is all about a little girl and justice for her murder, then something is wrong with the Florida justice system. KC was given her day in court and acquitted of the murder charges, which in America that means you are not guilty of those charges. For a state to pull KC back after she has left the state, and put her in harms way, for the purpose of justice for Caylee's murder is unconstitutional, and would in and of itself be considered an injustice. Injustice for KC is injustice for us all.

For over 2 years, KC sat in jail, facing murder charges, and looking at the DP. She may have felt at least a smidgeon of fear, every day for those 2 plus years. Being forced to serve her probation in Orlando, where no one from Orlando wants her, just puts her in jeopardy, and places any innocent bystander who happens to be where she walks by, or reports to, or grabs a Starbuck's from, or goes to work, in jeopardy also. How is that justice for Caylee? How does endangering the lives of innocent people serve as justice for Caylee?

As always, my entire post is my opinion only.

For Florida, Texas or any other state in the Union to bring back a convicted criminal to serve the sentence imposed by the court for their crime is not only their right, but their duty. Casey Anthony was sentenced to serve one year of probation AFTER she was released from incarceration by the presiding judge. She knew it, her attorneys knew it and all of the whining, fast talking shuck and jive in the world doesn't change that fact. To argue that this requirement of her sentencing was somehow served while she was locked in an 8x10 cell is laughable.

To further imply she would be in some type of "danger" is an affront to the law abiding citizens who live in Orange County, FL. Orlando is NOT the "Wild West" and we don't even have a "Boot Hill".

Mickey Mouse wouldn't allow it.

 

[Tulessa]

There is such a thing of transfer of probation, so I dont see why her probation could not be served wherever she was. Hopefully her team looks into that. jmo

If she has it transferred her address won't be protected, so I hope she does!:innocent:

 

[feddup]

..i'm not positive, but i don't think kc is in the same situation as capone and helmsley.

..weren't they 'hiding income', claiming deductions they weren't entitled to and that sort of thing?

..i do love it that she has the current tax lien hanging over HER head--------what does the IRS do about it if you're (legitimately) broke and can't ever pay it off?

When (ever) she does get a job :floorlaugh: they take out so much every wk unil its paid off? Not really sure.

 

[Truthwillsetufree]

For Florida, Texas or any other state in the Union to bring back a convicted criminal to serve the sentence imposed by the court for their crime is not only their right, but their duty. Casey Anthony was sentenced to serve one year of probation AFTER she was released from incarceration by the presiding judge. She knew it, her attorneys knew it and all of the whining, fast talking shuck and jive in the world doesn't change that fact. To argue that this requirement of her sentencing was somehow served while she was locked in an 8x10 cell is laughable.

To further imply she would be in some type of "danger" is an affront to the law abiding citizens who live in Orange County, FL. Orlando is NOT the "Wild West" and we don't even have a "Boot Hill".

Mickey Mouse wouldn't allow it.

:goodpost::rocker::goodpost::rocker:

 

[Whisperer]

Out here, it is very difficult to transfer. Inmates are to serve their parole (not probation) in the county of which the crime was committed. If they are not from that county, so what? That is not the P.O's problem. It is very very difficult to have it moved. Inmates are always trying to do it. It can hang in the system for a very long time. Rarely, does it get moved.

 

[jon_burrows]

:giggle: Referring to FCA and job in the same sentence...don't think I've ever seen that before. Wonder if she'll pick jail over getting a job.

When (ever) she does get a job :floorlaugh: they take out so much every wk unil its paid off? Not really sure.

 

[Whisperer]

She is going to pay the IRS one way or the other. I'm sure baez and mason have their grubby hands on her money right now. Mason admitted he has the checks the fools send. She must have given him power of attorney. He will be responsible for her IRS problems (my guess) and loves it.....another government system for him to fight. He is as happy as a pig in mud.

 

[Whisperer]

I think mason or baez will cover her as far as any job is concerned. That should be interesting if they do. She has, what?, nineteen or so attorney and law students to fall back on for help? I bet she talks to everyone of them about every day. Maculosa appears to be enthralled with her too. Any of these phonies, can divvy up a fake job.

 

[krkrjx]

Out here, it is very difficult to transfer. Inmates are to serve their parole (not probation) in the county of which the crime was committed. If they are not from that county, so what? That is not the P.O's problem. It is very very difficult to have it moved. Inmates are always trying to do it. It can hang in the system for a very long time. Rarely, does it get moved.

It's the same in my state. I worked in a P&P office and have seen what happens with interstate compact. Some did go through but the situation was thoroughly investigated first and anyone who is not familiar with the process would be astounded at the amount of paperwork invovled. My state requires the receiving state to account fully back to our P&P. I do not know if all states do that, but we didn't just let people move away without assurance that they would be doing what the court ordered them to do.

 

[rotterdam]

..i'm not positive, but i don't think kc is in the same situation as capone and helmsley.

..weren't they 'hiding income', claiming deductions they weren't entitled to and that sort of thing?

..i do love it that she has the current tax lien hanging over HER head--------what does the IRS do about it if you're (legitimately) broke and can't ever pay it off?

They can get real nasty if you do not file your annual income tax form without requesting a justified extension. And even nastier if you did send it in but lied on it.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

It's the same in my state. I worked in a P&P office and have seen what happens with interstate compact. Some did go through but the situation was thoroughly investigated first and anyone who is not familiar with the process would be astounded at the amount of paperwork invovled. My state requires the receiving state to account fully back to our P&P. I do not know if all states do that, but we didn't just let people move away without assurance that they would be doing what the court ordered them to do.

Thank you so much for your post. I've been wondering if probation is transferred,whether the new state is obligated to follow the original states court orders.If I read you correctly,its not a given.If I'm reading you wrong let me know.

 

[thedeviledadvocate]

I think the threat of death for Casey is a bit over exaggerated, IMO. She obviously walked around Ohio, by herself, without a care in the world. The only thing she has to worry about is being shunned and ostracized. Big whoop!

Was that KC in Ohio for sure?
Shunning and ostracizing would be a legal, acceptable way for people to act towards KC.

As for the threats against KC, they were bad enough that the OCSO had a number of officers on duty during her release. How bad they are or how insignificant they are is beyond our knowledge. We can only speculate as to the seriousness of those threats.

On this site, many are angry at the verdict, and feel as if KC got away with murder. Very few wish her well. On many, many other sites, the posters are not nearly as polite. They call her every name in the book, they wish she was dead, they want to do things to her that would make Hannibal Lector blush. I think there are some that may go after KC in Orlando, and I believe it would be much more likely to happen in Orlando than in the middle of Idaho.

As always, my entire post is my opinion only.

 

[rotterdam]

You can provide proof of indigence and they will call off collection but interest will continue to run. They will watch your situation and collect in the future....for example, if you come into, say, some saucy book or magazine proceeds. You can make them an offer to pay a lessor amount which they may or may not accept. At KC's age in her situation, the IRS is probably going to want a part of that $200K she got for the photos. IMO, for the time being, they'll hit her with a substantial underpayment penalty on top of the tax and then wait and let the interest run. If she gets some bucks, they'll go after them, but they may compromise for less if circumstances are right eventually.

I believe they can put a lien on anticipated income, meaning any big money that would hit your bank account, can be yanked by them and only leaving an small amount necessary for moderate living expenses.

 

[krkrjx]

Thank you so much for your post. I've been wondering if probation is transferred,whether the new state is obligated to follow the original states court orders.If I read you correctly,its not a given.If I'm reading you wrong let me know.

I do not know procedures in other states. If a probationer requested a transfer to another state and that other state did not want to follow what our court had ordered, they would either not accept the transfer or we would not allow the person to go there. But the P&P I worked in was a tough office. The PO's were all no-nonsense. They would go the extra mile for any probationer truly trying to improve their situation but our PO's became quickly aware of who was sincere and who was not.