Casey's Attorney Files Counter-Claims Against ZG

[Janis396]

CA, in a media interview, said John M, ZG's attorney should go back to chasing ambulances! :furious::furious::furious:

CA who apparently knows little to nothing about the law, has publically, in the media, accused John M, ZG's attorney, one with an outstanding local reputation, of being an ambulance chaser; which, would be unethical attorney conduct in violation of the rules governing attorney conduct. If he were in such violation, it would make him subject to public censure, possible suspension of his right to practice law and possible loss of his bar license. She said in the video that her attorney put a stop to John M's suing GA and CA as homeowners. (No details yet.) But, even if MN did deflect some other claim, CA just bought herself a lawsuit if the slandered person chooses. He probably won't, but could happen.

Every time Cindy opens her mouth and makes these kinds of statements, she further shows what kind of person she truly is inside. Bitter, vengeful, mean-spirited and extremely close-minded.

 

[LI_Mom]

I unfortunately have to say I agree this is an unfounded lawsuit by JP Morgan and makes it's a waste of taxpayers money.
KC never said it was this Zenaida. If she would have used the name Jane Smith then how many lawsuits would she have gotten for using that name?
Are all the other Zenaida's going to sue her as well? Zenaida gonzalez is not an uncommon name. Also She said Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez...and insisted on the hyphen. I don't think this Zenaida is a Fernandez. This is a stupid lawsuit.
It is one thing to single out a specific person and accuse them of a crime unjustly an another to use a name of a person that may have done something which could match many individuals and not specific to one.
I do think this is a silly lawsuit from John Morgan and I'm sure it will be dismissed.

There's more to it than JUST the name.... it was also the connection to the particular address that this ZFG did go to look at.

Casey obviously meant this ZFG... but had to change her story when LE showed her a picture of the woman & she couldn't identify her.

 

[Themis]

I unfortunately have to say I agree this is an unfounded lawsuit by JP Morgan and makes it's a waste of taxpayers money.
KC never said it was this Zenaida. If she would have used the name Jane Smith then how many lawsuits would she have gotten for using that name?
Are all the other Zenaida's going to sue her as well? Zenaida gonzalez is not an uncommon name. Also She said Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez...and insisted on the hyphen. I don't think this Zenaida is a Fernandez. This is a stupid lawsuit.
It is one thing to single out a specific person and accuse them of a crime unjustly an another to use a name of a person that may have done something which could match many individuals and not specific to one.
I do think this is a silly lawsuit from John Morgan and I'm sure it will be dismissed.

I don't think it will be dismissed. I can see the elements of the tort (a civil wrong). I can see how the public was led to believe this was the ZG. She doesn't have to prove she was the exact one that KC meant. There was a connection to Sawgrass that KC stated repeatedly and that is how LE found her. KC made that connection. ZG has suffered losses. It is not a stupid or silly lawsuit; lawyers generally screen this stuff pretty hard because they are going to forego other clients to take this case. Looks like this case has merit and KC should take it seriously. ZG could win this case. Hope they had more defenses than just "frivolous" (without merit and filed for an improper purpose.)

 

[manatee]

There's more to it than JUST the name.... it was also the connection to the particular address that this ZFG did go to look at.

Casey obviously meant this ZFG... but had to change her story when LE showed her a picture of the woman & she couldn't identify her.

Is this Zenaida, Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez? I was under the impression she was only Zenaida Gonzalez

 

[Themis]

I unfortunately have to say I agree this is an unfounded lawsuit by JP Morgan and makes it's a waste of taxpayers money.
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Why is this a waste of taxpayers money? This is a private, civil lawsuit. The attorneys for each side are being paid by their clients, not the taxpayers. If there are any judgements, the private party will have to pay it, not the taxpayers.

 

[manatee]

I don't think it will be dismissed. I can see the elements of the tort (a civil wrong). I can see how the public was led to believe this was the ZG. She doesn't have to prove she was the exact one that KC meant. There was a connection to Sawgrass that KC stated repeatedly and that is how LE found her. KC made that connection. ZG has suffered losses. It is not a stupid or silly lawsuit; lawyers generally screen this stuff pretty hard because they are going to forego other clients to take this case. Looks like this case has merit and KC should take it seriously. ZG could win this case. Hope they had more defenses than just "frivolous" (without merit and filed for an improper purpose.)

(BTW- I'm playing devil's advocate here) But see, she never said this was the Zenaida that went to look at an apartment. She said this Zenaida lived there...or someone who told her that her name was Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez ( maybe she lied to KC about her name, maybe the nanny is the one that should be sued for inpersonating ZFG) that lived at sawgrass took Caylee. the age and other demographics don't match how KC described Zenaida. JMHO
I will just say one true fact about J Morgan. I'm not sure what his motives are but He does advertizes heavily on radio and television. This lawsuit has brought him even more advertizing and press coverage. His slogan is "for the people"

 

[manatee]

Why is this a waste of taxpayers money? This is a private, civil lawsuit. The attorneys for each side are being paid by their clients, not the taxpayers. If there are any judgements, the private party will have to pay it, not the taxpayers.

court time

 

[manatee]

Why is this a waste of taxpayers money? This is a private, civil lawsuit. The attorneys for each side are being paid by their clients, not the taxpayers. If there are any judgements, the private party will have to pay it, not the taxpayers.

Believe me, I would love to come at JB and at KC with everything. However, fair is fair, and this just looks bad.

 

[laniefi]

I don't see ZG's lawsuit as baseless or retaliatory.
KC answered and presented counter claims. Therefore, KC is going to have to appear and testify. She can be deposed by John M, ZG's attorney. She's going to have a hard time claiming the 5th amendment right to remain silent and be able to prove her claims against ZG.

The CA act of going on the media and saying John M, a local attorney with an exceptional reputation, should go back to chasing ambulances is clearly slander. Damages in a slander action are based on how widely published the damaging statement was. That's not a baseless action either!

I haven't been able to review the pleadings as to what KC counter sued against ZG, but if she's just saying it is frivolous and just meant to embarass the A family, then it doesn't look good for KC so far. It doesn't matter if that isn't the woman KC meant. What matters is if the public could reasonably believe it. The connection to Sawgrass will probably do it.

CA's media reps need to throttle her so she doesn't commit any more torts. Things can get worse for that family if this keeps up. I'm hoping not, but silence is golden.

Sorry, meant KC's new lawsuit, not ZG's.

 

[Themis]

Sorry, meant KC's new lawsuit, not ZG's.

Claiming a lawsuit is frivolous is a legitimate defense, if true. But, in this case ... .:bang:

 

[manatee]

Claiming a lawsuit is frivolous is a legitimate defense, if true. But, in this case ... .:bang:

i think it is frivolous and I can see also why JB is countersuing... he would not want to get KC on the stand for this... too risky.

But again, I don't see how KC ever said it was this Zenaida. Do you know if this Zenaida has a hyphenated name Fernandez-Gonzalez? I think not.

 

[Themis]

(BTW- I'm playing devil's advocate here) But see, she never said this was the Zenaida that went to look at an apartment. She said this Zenaida lived there...or someone who told her that her name was Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez ( maybe she lied to KC about her name, maybe the nanny is the one that should be sued for inpersonating ZFG) that lived at sawgrass took Caylee. the age and other demographics don't match how KC described Zenaida. JMHO
I will just say one true fact about J Morgan. I'm not sure what his motives are but He does advertizes heavily on radio and television. This lawsuit has brought him even more advertizing and press coverage. His slogan is "for the people"

His motives are probably the same as for other clients; he is in the business of providing legal representation for a fee, whether hourly or a contingency. I don't like attorney advertising, but that battle was fought in the 1970s and advertising won. So, we live with it. There are some rules. I read somewhere that JPM had an excellent reputation. It was that info that I was relying on here.

Missing the point here on the identity of ZG. The claim ZG made does not have to prove that KC meant this exact person. If she can be included in KC's description that's all it takes.

 

[laniefi]

Claiming a lawsuit is frivolous is a legitimate defense, if true. But, in this case ... .:bang:

Did not know that, interesting...

 

[Themis]

court time

Comes with the territory of having to provide courts. If it is found to be frivolous, some jurisdictions require the party to filed the frivolous case to pay court costs. Others prohibit charging any extra fees.

 

[manatee]

His motives are probably the same as for other clients; he is in the business of providing legal representation for a fee, whether hourly or a contingency. I don't like attorney advertising, but that battle was fought in the 1970s and advertising won. So, we live with it. There are some rules. I read somewhere that JPM had an excellent reputation. It was that info that I was relying on here.

Missing the point here on the identity of ZG. The claim ZG made does not have to prove that KC meant this exact person. If she can be included in KC's description that's all it takes.

So can all the other Zenaida gonzalez also have a case for a non-frivolous lawsuit? what if KC would have used the name Jane smith or some other very common name?

 

[manatee]

Comes with the territory of having to provide courts. If it is found to be frivolous, some jurisdictions require the party to filed the frivolous case to pay court costs. Others prohibit charging any extra fees.

it will still constitute a waste of time that could have been better spent

 

[Themis]

If a person files too many frivolous lawsuits, they can be declared a vexatious litigant and then they have to have the court's permission to file a subsequent lawsuit. There are checks and balances in place. This is the balance the legislatures wanted so the issue of taxpayer money waste is not a winner. But, nice opportunity to learn.

 

[Themis]

it will still constitute a waste of time that could have been better spent

It is part of the business of providing courts.

 

[manatee]

His motives are probably the same as for other clients; he is in the business of providing legal representation for a fee, whether hourly or a contingency. I don't like attorney advertising, but that battle was fought in the 1970s and advertising won. So, we live with it. There are some rules. I read somewhere that JPM had an excellent reputation. It was that info that I was relying on here.

Missing the point here on the identity of ZG. The claim ZG made does not have to prove that KC meant this exact person. If she can be included in KC's description that's all it takes.

Some in central florida will probably agree completely with Cindy's statement about his reputation. Others may have a different opinion. The heavy, heavy advertizing is mostly blamed for the bad reputation. But people do know who to call if they want to sue someone and they cannot afford to pay an attorney upfront or even if they lose.

 

[LI_Mom]

Is this Zenaida, Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez? I was under the impression she was only Zenaida Gonzalez

The name in the suit is ZFG

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092408zenaidalawsuit/1/lg/Scan001_Page_1.htm