Casey's Body Language and Reactionary Comments#3

[kaRN]

is cyndy really reading this?
i meant every word cyndy <<<sticks out tounge>>>

I suspect she posts as well. MOO :angel:

 

[Pondering Mind]

Based on the fact that Dr. Glass is a professional I would be willing to bet she is right on the money with the body language. Her interpretations are just that, interpretations at what we all see as a fact, which would be KC's body language. Spoken words are only part of what we take in when we make contact with people. The majority is body language and what we know and what we feel is going on with the person. I would say for the most part LE officers are usually pretty good at body language. We all learn it subconsciously, it's just that some of us are better at interpretations than others. In Dr. Glass' case, she is a well known professional in that field. JMO

Absolutely LambChop! IMO very often, a trained professional can learn a whole lot more from a persons body language than from their words. With a pathological liar like KC (actually the whole A family) it's an invaluable tool. jmho as always...

 

[Pondering Mind]

I suspect she posts as well. MOO :angel:

:yes: Absolutely

 

[RR0004]

I couldn't believe "Dr." Glass's commentary about Casey supposedly smirking and basking in attention as she entered the courtroom. When I was watching the hearing I thought she was looking straight at her parents as she entered and was smiling for them. I thought it was a nicer smile to her parents than I've seen so far.

Of course "Dr" Glass is entitled to her opinion, and I personally agreed with a few of her points, (based on my own subjective interpretation, just as hers is subjective)--but I have to laugh a little at the way she states her interpretations as if they are fact!

wait a second, maybe this was commentary about her commentary that I was looking at! please excuse me if I have misquoted her.

She started smiling before she got in...and let's face it...she's been coached...that's just the way these things go. JMHO

 

[Reagan]

Heartfelt apology---that's ridiculous, JB lives in the same fantasy world Casey does if he thinks the public believes her apology was sincere. Casey could have called or sent a letter to Amy a long time ago begging for her forgiveness. Apologizing in public in front of the judge in order to get a lighter sentence or invoke public sympathy is not a sincere apology. She did a heck of a lot more to Amy than steal money. Amy was a good friend to her and in return she got nothing but lies and betrayal. I'm not a psychiatrist but I have an idea Amy will have lasting affects from her association with Casey. I thought Casey's little speech was a slap in the face to Amy and minimized what she did to her. She used and abused Amy. She tried to stall the check fraud case until after the murder trial, leaving Amy in limbo for years. Casey couldn't care less about Amy or anyone else for that matter.

Agreed. Remember, she also left Amy practically homeless. Fortunately she had true friends to take her in during her time of need.
I gagged when Lee insulted her during his SA depo. Stating she was into heroin, and how she didn't show her support for "the family". What are they, the mob? Hello! His sister stole a lot of money from her, led her to believe she'd have a home to live in, and was constantly lied to about Caylee's whereabouts while her poor corpse was rotting in the woods.

Support for the family, pleeeaase. I'm glad Amy didn't show up to the check fraud fiasco. And I'm glad she didn't waste her time supporting the A's and their nonsense. I wish Amy the best and hope she and the rest of the victims left in caseys disastrous path can move on after KC's convicted for Murder I, sentenced, and banished from society for the rest of her worthless days.

 

[Pondering Mind]

ITA! Amy had no comment for WESH when they called asking. JB also offered Amy could contact his office with messages for Casey. Somehow I don't think SS had that in mind when he ordered KC have no contact with her.

Somehow I just don't believe that KC would want to hear any message that Amy may have for her...:snooty:

I feel so sorry for Amy. She went far and above what most friends would do all along and to find out that KC had been lying to her about everything and robbing her blind of her hard earned money. Of course hard earned money to KC is prolly when she had to ask her mom twice for it.....she would have no concept of working for her money...moo

 

[Pondering Mind]

Agreed. Remember, she also left Amy practically homeless. Fortunately she had true friends to take her in during her time of need.
I gagged when Lee insulted her during his SA depo. Stating she was into heroin, and how she didn't show her support for "the family". What are they, the mob? Hello! His sister stole a lot of money from her, led her to believe she'd have a home to live in, and was constantly lied to about Caylee's whereabouts while her poor corpse was rotting in the woods.

Support for the family, pleeeaase. I'm glad Amy didn't show up to the check fraud fiasco. And I'm glad she didn't waste her time supporting the A's and their nonsense. I wish Amy the best and hope she and the rest of the victims left in caseys disastrous path can move on after KC's convicted for Murder I, and sentenced and banished from society for the rest of her days.

SERIOUSLY! If Amy were into heroin, she certainly wouldn't have had money for KC to steal! :furious: KC, along with her family have turned countless lives upside down ONLY because they can't admit the truth. Keeping in mind that Cindy had no trouble before the fact telling everyone about KC being a sociopath, liar and thief. It was only after the fact that she was an :innocent: all of a sudden..Go figure! :furious:

 

[kaRN]

:banghead: Baez never ceases to amaze me with how low he is willing to go.
Wouldn't that be considered indirect contact with Ms. H? Borderline harassment. Let the girl move on with her life. She's had enough of the head games and manipulation.

Borders on witness tampering too I'd think. Won't Amy be called to testify? Seems to me they have a deposition of Amy to do and JB is worrying about this instead.

 

[Pondering Mind]

Dr. Lillian Glass is well respected in her field, and more often right than wrong. She's been a guest on Bill O'Reilly commenting on speeches made by politicians or celebrities, and has often pinpointed something that that later turns out to be fact.

In this case, I think her analysis of Casey Anthony is right on target. Most of us here were already picking up on Casey's fake tears and her phony apology.

One thing that Dr. Glass stated is that Casey was excited. When I look at the still pictures from yesterday's hearing, it's easy to see that she was excited. This was HER moment in the spotlight.......not a lot of attorneys speaking. She was going to get to speak directly to the judge and the court room, and via camera to the world beyond, and she had rehearsed the lines she was given and knew them by heart.

Sociopaths seek attention and are excited to be the center of attention, whether it's positive attention or negative attention. They are equally excited for doing something good or doing something bad.

I think Dr. Glass has also got a good handle on Cindy and George. Of the two of them, George's emotions are much more real and heartfelt, whereas Cindy is more like Casey. I think Cindy's tears are more for herself. Her daughter is now a convicted felon. It doesn't do much to help the image she tries to project of a perfectly normal family.

Leila, I would love to hear what Tonya Reiman had to say about KC. I've always been very impressed with her interpretations.


http://www.tonyareiman.com/articles/

 

[nssherlock]

IMO - KC's apology "act" in court showed identical characteristics of her dad, GA. And we all know how many times he has been "mistruthful"....

KC's apology, in my mind, might have more credibility if she had apologized to her Grandmother, her Mother, her Father, her Brother.......and the other innocent bystanders she's stolen from............I guess if charges aren't filed she's not sorry??? hmmm

 

[kaRN]

Somehow I just don't believe that KC would want to hear any message that Amy may have for her...:snooty:

I feel so sorry for Amy. She went far and above what most friends would do all along and to find out that KC had been lying to her about everything and robbing her blind of her hard earned money. Of course hard earned money to KC is prolly when she had to ask her mom twice for it.....she would have no concept of working for her money...moo

I think you're right. It's easy to ham it all up for the cameras after the fact. Amy wasn't in the court yesterday and I bet if she had been, we'd have seen a very different Casey. Imagine if Amy had availed herself of the opportunity of speaking to the court.
Does JB really think he made restitution, made Amy whole with 650 or whatever dollars?? His client betrayed her BFF on every level and the money is probably the least of Amy's concerns.
JB really comes across as a complete incompetent doesn't he? I actually felt bad listening to him in court yesterday, rambling on and on and 'Going there anyway'. If he were my kids lawyer, I'd be panicking at this point.

 

[cyberborg]

:banghead: Baez never ceases to amaze me with how low he is willing to go.
Wouldn't that be considered indirect contact with Ms. H? Borderline harassment. Let the girl move on with her life. She's had enough of the head games and manipulation.

JB is so blinded by KC and trying to champion her innocence that he wants to reach out and convince folks, as he rewrites her history and image. He is trying *too* hard to use this 'confession' and plea deal to reset a level playing field and re-make KC to be more human and emotional. It will win more over than ever before but JB is trying too hard. Over-playing his poker hand.

How low will he go? ... :waitasec: ... as low as KC wants him to. :crazy:

I think KC was pleased to get this one under her belt, pleased that it is over, sees a win-win from the time-served. She is more confident and hopeful now so lets hope it sways her to plea out the Murder case by going to the Judge again .... and gets LIFE. She isn't going to confess any details but may seek an easy out for her new career as jailbird.

 

[Phumi]

For me , what is compelling about Dr. Glass's explanations is that she points out the reasons many of us feel that something is "off" when we see KC . Most of us do read body language on a subconscous level. It is an important part of getting along in daily life. For example, you might know by her body language that your boss is in a bad mood and this would not be a good time to ask for a raise. I am a college professor, and I can usualy tell when a student is lying about a paper she swears she handed in (even though I don't have it.) I can usually get the student to confess, too.
Many here have expressed that they get a "weird" feeling when they see KC's actions. They get the "feeling" she's insincere and a liar. Dr. Glass explains some of the specific movements and gestures that may be causing this reaction in so many of us.

 

[kaRN]

KC's apology, in my mind, might have more credibility if she had apologized to her Grandmother, her Mother, her Father, her Brother.......and the other innocent bystanders she's stolen from............I guess if charges aren't filed she's not sorry??? hmmm

If charges aren't filed and the case can be delayed 5 or so years until the murder trial is resolved, then no remorse for you or remorse will be delayed until that time. The Grandfather who was receiving palliative care at the onset of this case doesn't deserve an apology I guess. It's mindboggling really.

 

[kaRN]

SERIOUSLY! If Amy were into heroin, she certainly wouldn't have had money for KC to steal! :furious: KC, along with her family have turned countless lives upside down ONLY because they can't admit the truth. Keeping in mind that Cindy had no trouble before the fact telling everyone about KC being a sociopath, liar and thief. It was only after the fact that she was an :innocent: all of a sudden..Go figure! :furious:

Takes cajones to throw a person with an education, job and apartment under the bus as a junkie and bad influence to the ne'er do well on trial for murdering a toddler.
Don't forget she was also accused of being Zanny.

 

[Chiquita71]

ITA! Amy had no comment for WESH when they called asking. JB also offered Amy could contact his office with messages for Casey. Somehow I don't think SS had that in mind when he ordered KC have no contact with her.

Quote Respect kaRN

Yes. I remember the judge saying that part of the "deal" was that Casey was to have no contact with Amy. So, why would JB make a statement to the fact that Casey still wants to be Amy's friend and Amy can contact his office...blah, blah blah? I'm not really asking, I am just amazed! I have reached a point where it is all starting to make me laugh-in that sad way.

"Hey Amy, come on-accept the apology-Casey wants to be your friend again!" Nuts. Even if Casey didn't kill Caylee-it is still nuts to extend a offer of "let's get together and talk about the old days" at this time. I call these "alien moves": they are when people who aren't fully human(yet)try to mimic what they think "full humans" would expect to happen, usually emotionally-and they get it wrong. Yes, we like to see people make up and become friends again, but not like this! Really, it's patheti-a-sad.

Even if I would tend to believe the "apology" I find what JB did to be too obvious. I just watched the video of his Q&A with the press. He says the RK issue is that he was not fully investigated: it's not that the defense is considering him a suspect...now I know that is a huge waffle.

What if I was with ya, Jose? I would be confused right now because I'd have been telling everyone we got our man: RK. If I keep on repeating what I'm being told by the defense, I'll keep on sounding like I don't know what I am talking about...

I have come to the realization that Casey will be found guilty, or will plead guilty. This has subdued my ire toward the whole situation but not how badly I feel about what happened to Caylee.

:cow:

 

[seagull65]

Based on the fact that Dr. Glass is a professional I would be willing to bet she is right on the money with the body language.

I'm more of the school of thought that I value second opinions, even with medical doctors.

Her interpretations are just that, interpretations at what we all see as a fact, ...... JMO

I would have less of a problem if she stated her interpretations as considered opinions, rather than acting like her interpretations are objective fact.

But still, it's an interesting subject. Lots of great posts here in the past year and a half on this subject!

 

[LambChop]

I'm more of the school of thought that I value second opinions, even with medical doctors.



I would have less of a problem if she stated her interpretations as considered opinions, rather than acting like her interpretations are objective fact.

But still, it's an interesting subject. Lots of great posts here in the past year and a half on this subject!

What Dr. Glass is doing is looking at signals KC is showing the world in open court and stating what she knows for a fact what those signals mean. They are what they are. When people verbally try to deceive you their body very often tips you off. Most of us see whose signals clearly as KC stands before the judge. We pretty much reacted to them with a "yea, right" because those sensors in our brain picked up her non-verbal language and sent out a message to the logical part of our brain....."warning, warning". We see it, we know it and we are not experts. All Dr. Glass does is confirm by her interpretations and with what her wealth of experience has taught her, she sees that KC is not telling the truth.

Body language is older than dirt. JMO

 

[seagull65]

She has an impressive background, and I certainly wouldn't classify her studies of body language as "entertainment." As I mentioned, she's often called upon to interpret the body language of a celebrity or someone in the news, and sometimes she'll see something that indicates the person is lying or withholding information. Later, it will become known that she was correct in her observations, as it's revealed that the subject was in fact lying.

I remember that sometime ago she observed the body language of former presidential contender, John Edwards talk about his alleged mistress. Dr. Glass said he was lying about his relationship, and of course it was later revealed that not only did John Edwards have a mistress, but he also fathered a child with her. This is just an example of some of her work.

Wow, well that is pretty important work. And who could have guessed that. Just kidding!

But Dr. Glass didn't say anything that hasn't been said here many times before, did she? We've proposed it all before here and discussed it here.
It could be true, or it may not be true. If she's convicted, that won't make it true if it's not. The truth will remain, whatever it is.

Regarding the check fraud plea deal, Casey was pleading guilty. Then we take a frame out of the footage and say, 'See, this gesture means guilt', etc. Woo, spooky!
Only teasing. I just consider Dr. Glass one professional giving considered opinions, not an oracle or lie detector.

p.s. I didn't say her studies were for entertainment, I was talking about the soundbytes like this for the tabloid/popular media.

 

[LambChop]

You can consciously lie with your mouth by your verbal response (Pinocchio) but your body is like "Jiminy Cricket".