Casey's Diary Entry for June 21st & Missing Pages #2

[strach304]

WOW. The SAO has left no stone unturned. Love how they got the freaking secret service unit to analyze the INK on the diary. WOW! I think all is over now except the crying...because it is very, very obvious to me that LB will mop the floor with the defense in trial. It is evidenced thus far by the way she conducts herself in open court, the way she OBLITERATED LB in that deposition - she is one IN CONTROL WOMAN. Now, I absolutely love JA, but that man has a temper and can be easily baited. Evidenced by LB's attorney exchange with him in that depo. I think had they been in the same room, somebody would have gone home with a shiner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Where is the LB depos? Been looking and haven't found them. TIA.

 

[beach]

Where is the LB depos? Been looking and haven't found them. TIA.

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[Aedrys]

Here's my thoughts on the diary. I do think that Cindy wrote in the '03, thinking that would be enough for dumb LE to not even have a second thought about it. Remember, she thinks she is so far above the law and that LE is incompetent. I bet she never would have thought of ink analysis or LE being smart enough to ask the manufacturer about when the diary came out. She thought she was so smart that putting '03 on there would be more than enough for LE to just cast the diary to the side as unimportant.

I do also think that there is another thing she was doing here. We've all seen how she is front of a camera and heard how she is without a camera there. Maybe keeping that diary was yet another passive aggressive shot at Casey? A way of telling Casey that she knows what Casey did to Caylee? Now I know doesn't make sense with I wrote above, but bear with me. She had to know that if this was important or not that LE at the very least would take a picture of it for Casey's case file. So there would at least be a picture on file that would be turned over in discovery for Casey to see. And of course, the world would see it too because of the Sunshine Laws.

So we would all run wild with speculation, and Cindy's message to Casey would be out there. However, she figured it would end there, and LE would just leave the picture in a file and never do anything with it. The diary itself would just be give back to Cindy. Therefore, she'd get her passive aggressive shot in at Casey, and it would just become another small part of Casey's case file with Casey being the only person who would really understand why it's there. And of course, Cindy would go on to just deny, deny, deny that it was written in '08, but in '03. She never EVER thought it would become actual evidence in this case or possibly come in at trial time.

I think she found the diary with pages already ripped out. I think she was angered by that last page that was still there. I think she felt she had to get back at Casey, and figured writing '03 at the top of that page would make the diary nothing to LE, but still be a way to tell Casey "I know what you did to Caylee even though I'm saying the opposite to the media." Heck, Cindy holding onto that diary in the first place is a shot at Casey itself.

I just think she never figured LE would take that diary as seriously as they did. She figured they were too dumb to figure it out. Boy, was she wrong. I bet she regrets writing that '03 and letting that diary be turned over. Plus, she figured since it would be unimportant, LE would just give it back to her. She would then keep it so that she could continue to put it into Casey's face for the rest of Casey's life. She probably was going to use it when Casey was freed to rake her over the coals for what she did to Caylee before throwing her out of the house. I think it was her proof, or the closest she would get to having a confession from Casey that Casey killed Caylee.

Remember, this is the queen of passive aggression, and I can totally see her doing this to get in another shot at Casey and thinking she could outsmart LE at the same time.

 

[strach304]

This is fascinating to me but at the same time seems like there should be a logical explanation. I don't know if this has been suggested or not but since we know the book wasn't manufactured until 2004 could she have decided to write about her previous year after the fact. In other words she's so special she started with things she felt she wanted to write about from the past year and then bring it up to current events.

 

[sleutherontheside]

I just go back to Occam's Razor.

If the journal was not available until 2004 and someone wrote '03. I have to assume that the most simple explanation would be so that it would appear it was written in 2003. If this date flub is unrelated to the case....why would anyone want to change the date??

 

[strach304]

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Thanks I hope these are nothing like the other documents I read on LB last night. I had to keep going over them and over them to try and make sense of what she was or wasn't saying.

 

[strach304]

I just go back to Occam's Razor.

If the journal was not available until 2004 and someone wrote '03. I have to assume that the most simple explanation would be so that it would appear it was written in 2003. If this date flub is unrelated to the case....why would anyone want to change the date??

If Casey didn't receive the journal until 2004 or 2005 for example and maybe Cindy is the one that gave it to her so that's why she knows it was written in 2005. Casey thinks to herself what do I want to write about? It occurs to her at the time many interesting things happened to her last year or for that matter throughout high school that she would like to include. So that's where she starts and then brings it current. Just an idea. I don't know. She wrote 03' because that's where she decided to start from.

 

[OpenMind4U]

It was not leaked. The photo was produced to the media along with all the other photos from the search of the Anthony home, pursuant to the Sunshine Laws.

However, the fact that something is released by the SA is not an indication that it will or will not be offered as evidence at trial.

AZ, thank you for explanation. I simply hope that this subject matter will be discussed among lawyers during 'admissible' session and we could hear more details about this diary evidence/discovery. IMO, overall entries (visible, indentation, 'optical') are good glimpse into KC mind...all about 'me', lining-up boyfriends, nothing about future goals (school/work related)...If someone would ask me to guess how old the writer is (without saying who wrote that), my answer would be 13-14 years old.

 

[doogiesgirl]

To me, the '03 clearly represents the year 2003. If the apostrophe wasn't there, I could, maybe, entertain the thought of it representing something else. So, the questions left for me are:

Why put the year '03 into a journal entry written in a journal that wasn't even sold until 2004?
Who wrote '03 on the top of that page?

Also, I know that the ink could not be matched to one in the ink library database but I wonder if the ink from the '03 was a match for the ink on the rest of the page and the subsequent page. Was this comparison made?

On a side note, when this diary first came out I did some reading on ink analysis and was surprised to find out that ink manufacturers actually put a component into the ink to help identify and date the ink used on documents.

BBM
I find it, well, kind of shocking that the ink on the diary cannot be matched. Doesn't anyone else think it mighty strange that KC is writing with ink that the SS cannot identify?

What was that FM involved in? Wasn't he jailed at some point? Was it for forgery?

MOO

 

[doogiesgirl]

Maybe we all are over thinking the '03. What are the simplest explanations?

Could it be she was drunk or high when she wrote it and simply wrote the wrong year in the corner? You know how you are meaning to write one thing but for some reason something else comes out?

I know, I know, not very likely.....just a thought I'm throwing out there.

MOO

 

[wenwe4]

JWG, I posted on the previous page how someone pointed out it could mean number of days since she "hadn't seen her daughter"... We all know how detailed KC is with weird numbers etc... but then I said it contradicts Caylee being murdered on the 16th, which I believe she was.

Yes, you are onto something here - after all if Caylee was murdered on the 16th and was in the trunk on the 2.6th day which would have been the last time we believe KC actually laid eyes upon Caylee. Methinks your math may add up after all.

 

[LambChop]

If Casey didn't receive the journal until 2004 or 2005 for example and maybe Cindy is the one that gave it to her so that's why she knows it was written in 2005. Casey thinks to herself what do I want to write about? It occurs to her at the time many interesting things happened to her last year or for that matter throughout high school that she would like to include. So that's where she starts and then brings it current. Just an idea. I don't know. She wrote 03' because that's where she decided to start from.

That is a good thought but if this were so what would be the reason to tear out all the other pages. It appears there were quite a few. jmo

 

[Omachka]

Thanks for that, was interesting to see again. Cindy makes a big stink over how the diary is NOT evidence, corrects Brad when he said it was released in discovery, saying it was NOT released in discovery, but someone at the sheriff's office took a picture, "leaked" it to the media, who then ran with it. So 1) is that true, that the sheriff's office leaked it to the media, and 2) if it was NOT evidence, was clarified as completely irrelevant as Cindy claims, why would Brad be keeping it as an officer of the court? Why not just leave it in Casey's room like everything else?

I wonder what happened to it after Brad quit working for the A's? Actually, I'm beginning to wonder if he ever kept it. There have been so many lies coming from the defense side. How is it that we now have an analysis of the ink? The Sheriff's office must have kept the actual book in order to have tested the ink I would think. :waitasec: Also... this was never "leaked". It was released in a document dump pursuant to the Sunshine Laws... if you are reading here, Cindy.. it is evidence... a great big red flag.

 

[Omachka]

If Casey didn't receive the journal until 2004 or 2005 for example and maybe Cindy is the one that gave it to her so that's why she knows it was written in 2005. Casey thinks to herself what do I want to write about? It occurs to her at the time many interesting things happened to her last year or for that matter throughout high school that she would like to include. So that's where she starts and then brings it current. Just an idea. I don't know. She wrote 03' because that's where she decided to start from.

But why rip out those pages afterwards?

 

[wenwe4]

I wonder why the report from the paper company doesn't list the number of pages included in the original notebook. We are all convinced (by the evidence released) that there were pages missing from this - hence the ghost writing. I am certain LE has the exact number of pages in the journal are missing and proof from from the paper company, etc. There may even be a way to track dollar general from their inventory to know when the last of these one time items were sold. Don't know if that matters as much, but clearly there were pages missing. Also, just wanted to remind everyone about how to get rid of evidence without having people find it in your trash . . . . . . FLUSHY flushy! (he he)

 

[LambChop]

I wonder why the report from the paper company doesn't list the number of pages included in the original notebook. We are all convinced (by the evidence released) that there were pages missing from this - hence the ghost writing. I am certain LE has the exact number of pages in the journal are missing and proof from from the paper company, etc. There may even be a way to track dollar general from their inventory to know when the last of these one time items were sold. Don't know if that matters as much, but clearly there were pages missing. Also, just wanted to remind everyone about how to get rid of evidence without having people find it in your trash . . . . . . FLUSHY flushy! (he he)

Hey, I do that, but with those pesky credit card companies that won't leave you alone. I just rip of the personal info parts, rip them up and flushy, flushy. They sleep with the fishies.

 

[Bathbuddys]

Yes, you are onto something here - after all if Caylee was murdered on the 16th and was in the trunk on the 2.6th day which would have been the last time we believe KC actually laid eyes upon Caylee. Methinks your math may add up after all.

okay you got my attention now BUT it brang up the tattoo to me how there are 3 stars!! maybe this 03 is the same thing?

 

[Gma Kat]

This is fascinating to me but at the same time seems like there should be a logical explanation. I don't know if this has been suggested or not but since we know the book wasn't manufactured until 2004 could she have decided to write about her previous year after the fact. In other words she's so special she started with things she felt she wanted to write about from the past year and then bring it up to current events.

This seems as good a theory as any in my book! I also was wondering if it could have been '08 and the left side "erased" to look like '03.....but that surely would be discovered by the lab.

 

[cloud9]

I just go back to Occam's Razor.

If the journal was not available until 2004 and someone wrote '03. I have to assume that the most simple explanation would be so that it would appear it was written in 2003. If this date flub is unrelated to the case....why would anyone want to change the date??

Excellent! Yes!

 

[strach304]

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That is a good thought but if this were so what would be the reason to tear out all the other pages. It appears there were quite a few. jmo

Things she regretted writing about later.