Casey's Diary Entry for June 21st & Missing Pages #2

[beach]

As for the other indentation writing--the "Kenneth/Marcus" one--do we know what page that was on?

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All the info I have reviewed was from this doc (16 pgs)

http://www.wesh.com/pdf/26651208/detail.html

I'm going back to read again.

 

[JWG]

I agree with LC; the "03" page couldn't have reverse indentation writing on it if it was written on the inside cover. So it must be an interior page, and the "Christmas" indentation writing was written before that page--probably on the other side of the page.

I'm starting to think the "Everyday Is A Brand New Begining" (don't blame me for her spelling) "Carpe Diem" page was a "New Year's" page--New Year's Day '05, '06, '07 or '08.

As for the other indentation writing--the "Kenneth/Marcus" one--do we know what page that was on?

The FBI photos released in discovery today, presumably showing the indentation writing, is of the "Carpe Diem" page. The photos are not of the greatest quality, but the writing appears to slant in a direction such that it is forward and not backward. In other words, the writing is from a page on top of the Carpe Diem page and not behind it. So I would conclude the writing was produced between Carpe Diem and June 21.

ETA: Kenneth / Marcus would be on a page (as Bond would say) 'twixt the Diem and June 21 pages.

 

[AZlawyer]

I think the ripped out pages between the front cover page and the entry were from when she dated the Kenneth (in the penalty phase list) and thus the impression left on the carpe diem page has no significance except to PROVE this entry was made after that time frame!

But the impression left on the carpe diem page was made on the other side of that page, and was the "Christmas" message, not the "Kenneth/Marcus" message.

 

[AZlawyer]

The FBI photos released in discovery today, presumably showing the indentation writing, is of the "Carpe Diem" page. The photos are not of the greatest quality, but the writing appears to slant in a direction such that it is forward and not backward. In other words, the writing is from a page on top of the Carpe Diem page and not behind it. So I would conclude the writing was produced between Carpe Diem and June 21.

ETA: Kenneth / Marcus would be on a page (as Bond would say) 'twixt the Diem and June 21 pages.

No, no, no, I can read it, and it is backward.

The easiest place to see it is p. 15:
http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/handwritinganalysis.pdf

where it says "naturally comes" (backward) just before the capital "N" in "Brand New Begining [sic]."

 

[Ssejors]

It looks like KCs 3. IMO.

ICA didnt write a 3. The top part of those documents was filled out by a LEO

 

[beach]

No, no, no, I can read it, and it is backward.

The easiest place to see it is p. 15:
http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/handwritinganalysis.pdf

where it says "naturally comes" (backward) just before the capital "N" in "Brand New Begining [sic]."

I can read it too.

 

[LolaMoon08]

Casey could have written that entry at any time. She was in and out of the Anthony home a lot during those 31 days. She possibly could have torn out the previous pages during this 31 days and wrote this entry for Cindy to read. I tend to believe that Casey had no problem leaving little cryptic messages for Cindy. She went in and took Caylee's teddy bear... the one Cindy was sleeping with to comfort her while Caylee was gone. Casey was taunting Cindy, in a way... actually, there is no way about it... she was taunting Cindy.

The '03?? Well the only important thing I guess is that it was impossible for this to be written in '03. Cindy even went on Larry King Live and the Diary page was brought up and Cindy states that it was written in 2005... Brad Conway corrects Cindy and says that it was written in 2003. Cindy didn't look very happy with BC when he said that he would be willing to turn it over to the SA. She was shooting him some daggers!!

Conversation starts at 2:43

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l0R65vo2f4&feature=player_detailpage[/ame]

 

[YellowSubmarine]

I don't really understand why some people on here are saying the diary was written earlier than 2004 after the MANUFACTURER confirmed it wasn't made until 2004. Please don't tell me there are some fueling the Penman conspiracy theory we all know will be coming!

 

[JWG]

No, no, no, I can read it, and it is backward.

The easiest place to see it is p. 15:
http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/handwritinganalysis.pdf

where it says "naturally comes" (backward) just before the capital "N" in "Brand New Begining [sic]."

I should not be sleuthing while having a martini ... :martini:

 

[sleutherontheside]

Casey could have written that entry at any time. She was in and out of the Anthony home a lot during those 31 days. She possibly could have torn out the previous pages during this 31 days and wrote this entry for Cindy to read. I tend to believe that Casey had no problem leaving little cryptic messages for Cindy. She went in and took Caylee's teddy bear... the one Cindy was sleeping with to comfort her while Caylee was gone. Casey was taunting Cindy, in a way... actually, there is no way about it... she was taunting Cindy.

The '03?? Well the only important thing I guess is that it was impossible for this to be written in '03. Cindy even went on Larry King Live and the Diary page was brought up and Cindy states that it was written in 2005... Brad Conway corrects Cindy and says that it was written in 2003. Cindy didn't look very happy with BC when he said that he would be willing to turn it over to the SA. She was shooting him some daggers!!

Conversation starts at 2:43

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l0R65vo2f4&feature=player_detailpage

She knows better than Brad. Come on you know that. HeeHee

 

[Gma Kat]

Okay, let me see if I can explain. When you write on page 1 and leave an impression (which we always do) it shows up on page 2 and/or page 4 as a reverse text when you view it from a photograph. So page 2 had the 03 on it so it was not the cover (I think) it was just a page. Because nothing was on the back of the "cover page" it had to be page 4 or more. KC had written in the journal prior to that "cover page". In the report they translated what was written. I mean how many pages could she have written before the 03 page when the book was not released until 2004??????

Thanks Lambchop! I found another image of the diary that makes it clear it is a page from the journal, not the inside cover, that has the '03, etc., written on it. I appreciate your explanation - it helps a lot. :blowkiss:

 

[Noddy]

Could Marcus be MH?

I'm with you. I think Marcus could be MH. It's the right timing.

I haven't been able to find any reference on the forum to the European slash through the Z on Seize the Day. That's usually done to 7's and Z's. Casey nor George have the slash through their 7's. I haven't found a written Z for them yet. I think it's used in the medical field though. Mrs. A perhaps?

I also haven't found Lee's handwriting. I'm kind of wondering if he had anything to do with it. Didn't the LE say he knows what he's done.

Justa guessing.

 

[beach]

PotatoHead on THM suggested this was journal #3 in a series, right around the same time I was going to post the same thing here. Beat me to the punch. :doh:

<snip> BBM

This might have *swoosh* flown right over my head at first glance -

JWG, are you suggesting the "'03" might have indicated it was the 3rd journal in a series?

 

[Gma Kat]

I should not be sleuthing while having a martini ... :martini:

Okay........I'll drink the martini while you sleuth.....:martini:

I'm always willing to take one for the team.......:blushing: :grouphug:

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

No, no, no, I can read it, and it is backward.

The easiest place to see it is p. 15:
http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/handwritinganalysis.pdf

where it says "naturally comes" (backward) just before the capital "N" in "Brand New Begining [sic]."

Correct. Those are the only exhibits in the document. The Secret Service attached them to their report. FBI only quoted the text of their findings and did not indicate where they were located.

But, AZ, doesn't it look like the bottom half of the page the indented writing begins to slant in the opposite direction from the top? Could we be seeing the impressions of both a preceding and a following page both imprinted? And note that the last legible words quoted by the SS are "naturally comes" which are the last few slanted in that particular direction. Maybe she wrote only a half page there and then we see the last half of the next most visible indented writing. Would the bottom half then be a later or earlier entry? I think later.

Am I mixing everyone up even more or can you follow what I'm trying to say?

 

[LolaMoon08]

Could the '03 be the months Casey was pregnant at the time she wrote this entry? Put all the talk that Casey didn't know she was pregnant until 7 months away because I know that Casey knew she was pregant. Could Casey have been talking about her decision to keep Caylee?

I just hope the end justifies the means. Was the ending decision to keep Caylee?

 

[cyberborg]

<snip> BBM

This might have *swoosh* flown right over my head at first glance -

JWG, are you suggesting the "'03" might have indicated it was the 3rd journal in a series?

It does seem shorthand for a date, as in year. A volume number would surely be #3? Given the book is 2004 or older then it seems like something of significance, like Class of ... But ICA was 2004? Was there something significant from '03 and this was a new beginning in '04? Or was this Carpe Diem page something she typically started each year/journal with? Her logo?

 

[sleutherontheside]

http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/casey-anthony-s-2003-high-school-yearbook-for-sale-on-ebay

In its description, the seller writes, &#8220;Accused murderer Casey Anthony the Tot Mom is a Junior and is also pictured in the Travel & Tourism Club.&#8221;


May I ask. Where had KC traveled and toured prior to membership in the club????
Just thought I would post link since 2003 is such a hot topic right now. KC was a Junior in 2003.

http://cgi.ebay.com.my/2003-COLONIAL-HIGH-SCHOOL-BOOK-ORLANDO-FLORIDA-TOT-MOM-/370248537141

 

[OpenMind4U]

No, no, no, I can read it, and it is backward.

The easiest place to see it is p. 15:
http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/handwritinganalysis.pdf

where it says "naturally comes" (backward) just before the capital "N" in "Brand New Begining [sic]."

100% agree. Some indentation words on the 'Brand New Beginning' page is readable in backwards therefore the page with reference to 'new year' was BEFORE the 'New Beginning'/'03' page. So, looks like some pages are missing before AND after 'New Beginning' page. JMO

 

[Ssejors]

I'm a little con fuzzed about the Capre diem page it self. It doesnt have any lines on it and that says to me that it was the first paper page AFTER the cover. Many journals and diaries have that one first blank page followed by lined pages after that.

The front to back /invisible / reverse writing is where im getting confuzzed I think.

Journal is purchasable in 04 at the earliest. 04 Christmas? first entry on the blank page is Everyday is a brand new begining. (yay for new journal, seems like any vague yet optimistic new journal first page. Nice title page to a hopefully more Positive year) then we have an unknown amount of missing pages with some reverse writing that hint at those pages having been written in 05. around the time of "kenneth" and "Marcus" Then we have the page on the right, June 21st I have no regrets.
Perhaps the no regrets page is about being pregnant and deciding to KEEP Caylee. When Was the Uncles Party? If Caylee was born in Aug of 05. Then ICA would have been pregnant when she got the journal. or would have gotten pregnant and found out shortly after getting the journal. So perhaps things WERE working out with "Kenneth" and then not long after that, things fell apart with him but she made the decision to go ahead with KEEPING (as opposed to adopting out) Caylee. Would that fit? Maybe the pages that were ripped out were just crappy high school boy friend drama that ICA didnt want to remember. Perhaps the no regrets page is simply that.. I am keeping this baby and I dont care what my uncle, mom, dad brother yadda yadda, have to say about it.

Maybe CA DID keep the journal because it might well be the only loving, positive thoughts ICA ever expressed about Caylee. Maybe CA kept it cause she wanted to remember the time in ICA life where she was HAPPY and excited and optimistic about having Caylee. Maybe she wanted to keep it to SHOW people, SEE ICA WAS HAPPY TO BECOME A MOM.


Does that make sense?

JMO