Caylee Anthony 2 year old General Discussion # 18

[kathyn2]

I think Casey is lying about TonE. I heard it in her voice in the hesitation etc when she spoke about him. Somehow he is involved. He either helped her dispose of the body, or he killed her or he is in with this sleezy outfit that may have taken her if she isn't dead. I still believe Casey is lying about anyone taking her however.

I think she knows she didn't bamboozle the local LE and is pizzed about that and hopes she can bamboozle the FBI. She has been able to get away with her lies all her life with family and friends so she thinks she can fool LE and the FBI. So far she has not fooled LE so she has come up with them being out to get her. Her stupid mother Cindy needs to wise up that her daughter is nothing but a liar and is trying to lead them all on a wild goose chase. But I do believe LE needs to investigate this group that allegedly stole caylee even tho I don't believe they exist.

You are right, yanknrebel! That is a very strange statement. TonE had stated that he last saw Caylee on June 2nd when she was over with Casey at his apartment complex pool.
I think it sounds as if she is saying that in past tense as well! Good find!

 

[ketel0ne]

I'd bet anything that Casey's family is cooperating FULLY with this investigation & that psychologists, the FBI, LE & Casey's family & close friends have all been working together to figure out the best strategy to get Casey to talk.


I don't think Orlando is that close to the ocean.... but she did have a car.

Daytona is about 1 hour away.

 

[cheko1]

Like this: Cindy Anthony discounted the decomposition testimony after she received a tip that a child matching Caylee's description had been seen at the Orlando International Airport boarding a flight to Atlanta.

Also Thursday, Cindy Anthony said there have been two reported sightings of 2-year-old Caylee in Georgia and she believes her granddaughter is with someone heading to Charlotte, N.C.

"We know where she's at," Cindy Anthony told FOX News Thursday before pleading with the person she believes has the child to turn back. "Please don't take her further into the mountains. It looks like she's headed northeast in Georgia close to the North Carolina border. ... This is all very encouraging right now."

I shortened this post but wanted to comment on it!
If Cindy knows where Caylee is at .....GO GET HER!
Quit the game playing & bring that baby home.

She just pizzes me off! Since when does pizza smell like a dead body? LE has disconted close to everything she has said.

 

[cricket]

Why would she lie about working? There has got to be angle here to explore. Why would she be so insistent to everyone that she had a job? I doubt she was afraid Tony would tell her mother. Was this a cover for something and if so, what? Prostitution, drugs? Why work "out of the apartment"? She obviously wasn't going anywhere to be up to any shenanigans, so why lie?

Weren't her friends quoted as saying she is a pathological liar? She lies when there is no reason to lie. It's just second nature to her. Kinda reminds me of Scott Peterson - he frequently lied, even when there was no real reason to lie and even when he knew the truth would eventually come out.

 

[LaLaw2000]

That's an excellent point. Maybe LE is holding those charges and plans to file them if Casey makes bail, to delay her release. That would add an extra day or two for a new arraignment/bond hearing.

You are right, and we can only hope. I think LE has these backup charges just in case Casey were to make bail.

 

[cheko1]

I'd bet anything that Casey's family is cooperating FULLY with this investigation & that psychologists, the FBI, LE & Casey's family & close friends have all been working together to figure out the best strategy to get Casey to talk.


I don't think Orlando is that close to the ocean.... but she did have a car.

I hope they're co-operating with LE!

Orlando isn't that far from the ocean, maybe 45 minute drive is it.

 

[ebrich]

Why would she lie about working? There has got to be angle here to explore. Why would she be so insistent to everyone that she had a job? I doubt she was afraid Tony would tell her mother. Was this a cover for something and if so, what? Prostitution, drugs? Why work "out of the apartment"? She obviously wasn't going anywhere to be up to any shenanigans, so why lie?

king merk's friend has runs a dating service if you look at his myspace groups...??

 

[yanknrebel]

Ok I am an old fogey. I am 41 and hank the Lord neither myself nor my 2 grown kids have ever been into the drug scene so I may not know what I am talkingabout. However in one of the posts someone stated that "Zanny the nanny " is code word for zanax. So if this is true, I wonder if perhaps that Toney guy who bills himself as an event coordinator at a nightclub, and who I am SURE would have access to xanax as would many of Casey's friend, who have given Casey some xanax to give to Caylee as a way to hush the baby into sleep so that she may be able to go partying? Perhpas she saw the report that day of a theft with a Zanaida Fernandez -Gonzales and decided, hey Zanny is shot for Zanaida , so I can just blame it on a fictional nanny? Perhaps Casey was so out of it partying, and one of her friends gave the child xanax, caused her death, and just told Casey when she became coherent, that Caylee had been taken to the nanny . Just thinking out loud. It just seems to be very strange if this is code word for xanax, and Zanny is a nanny. Too coinceidental



yanknrebel

 

[CheckDaFacts]

I think you meant July 15th.

Yes I di thank you for correcting that ugly mistake.

 

[olive]

king merk's friend has runs a dating service if you look at his myspace groups...??

Wonder if Casey was ever a member of that group or had any affiliation?

 

[cheko1]

Wonder if she did online transactions. Did she bounce anything? Is there another complaint were unaware of?

Somehow the car has to be handled. If there was ever a body within its confines. Hey I thought it was stolen but its not? What happened with the 911 auto theft complaint over the odor? Doubt that would be a poof, someone has to hold that bouncing ball, ya think? :bang:

This case is the biggest mess I've ever tried keeping up with. It goes from crazy to crazier!!!

 

[CheckDaFacts]

king merk's friend has runs a dating service if you look at his myspace groups...??

Chuckle it could be legit
Casey could have bought and sold things for the cash needed on hand. She could have also traded. Very common with thieves. If she ordered on line or had it delivered what address's were set up for the items to go to? Or was it all Ala swipe card to go?

 

[LaLaw2000]

I shortened this post but wanted to comment on it!
If Cindy knows where Caylee is at .....GO GET HER!
Quit the game playing & bring that baby home.

She just pizzes me off! Since when does pizza smell like a dead body? LE has disconted close to everything she has said.

Well, I think that Cindy could very well be charged with impeding an investigation if LE wanted to. I do not think that they will, tho.

Someone must have told Cindy to keep her mouth shut about these tips that only she keeps getting on her personal phone! Notice that she hasn't come out with that nonsense yesterday or today.

Everybody in this whole ordeal pizzes me off. It is a game with Cindy and Casey.

Cindy and GPA KNEW very well what that smell was in the trunk. They just did not know about the scent in the backyard that the dogs would pick up.

It is way past time for all involved in this tragic event to stop playing games and tell the truth. I honestly do not believe that Caylee is alive. It is a shame that the very one who could let Caylee be put to rest properly is only worried about her own azz and the boyfriend she just thought she had.

 

[cricket]

You are right, and we can only hope. I think LE has these backup charges just in case Casey were to make bail.

I've got my fingers crossed on this too. Although, part of me wonders if LE would have been better off to not arrest her so quickly. If she wasn't in jail LE might have had a better chance to catch her talking about things with friends, family, the media, by doing phone taps or having her friends wear wires. She's such a drama queen, I doubt she'd keep her mouth shut if she was on the outside. They were probably worried that she is unstable, a la Melinda Duckett, and didn't want to take a chance on committing suicide.

I'm hoping they've put a cooperating snitch as her cell mate.

 

[Salem]

I did find an article about Jesus Ortiz that was killed in a tragic car accident ~ May 2007.

http://media.www.centralfloridafutu...tudent.Dies.In.Tragic.Car.Crash-2905719.shtml

Here are also comments made to a newspaper after Jesus was killed.
http://www.topix.com/forum/state/fl/T25IT902R4H7K0SG2

This was just over a year ago. Pretty recent. In the topix comments, someone mentioned that he did go to Colonial High School. Isn't that where Casey went?

However, I would think, if this was Caylee's biodad, there would have been some mention in all the facebook/myspace info so many of our wonderful sleuthers have found and collected?

Salem

 

[bluedevil21]

ma's spouting of everything Casey tells her is heartbreaking in my opinion. Gma, Gpa and Lee know something is seriously wrong and they know Casey is lying. Lee so far, is the only to speak up to Casey. I understand Gma's position, she is trying to stay on Casey's good side so Casey will talk, but the bottom line is, they need to hold Casey accountable.

while you may be right, and i agree, this is the opposite of what her lawyer is telling her to do. she can only incriminate herself further by talking to LE. dont get me wrong, i want her to. but his job is to keep her out of prison. talking will completely undermine that. its her right to remain silent, and it would be a big legal blunder to offer her up now. especially because her police report has so many holes in it. LE could more or less ask her anything and catch her in subsequent lies. baez is looking to stall, waiting for some intervening event, in hopes of a deal.

Originally Posted by cricket View Post
That's an excellent point. Maybe LE is holding those charges and plans to file them if Casey makes bail, to delay her release. That would add an extra day or two for a new arraignment/bond hearing.

what other info do we have about these charges? a criminal complaint for fraud is different than a bank complaint for fraud. is the bank actually filing charges against her? i'm intrigued. while i think these checks will definitely come into play, especially if amy testifies about them (and particularly in terms of casey's character, as well as her ability to lie and steal), i really don't see them using it as a reason to hold her in this situation.

it would most likely undermine their case-in-chief. almost like grasping for straws. as if they had to create a reason to hold her, because they didnt have the evidence to back it up. if anything, i see them charging her with something higher, and hoping to plead her down for an admission of guilt. i mean, can you imagine LE saying to her, "listen, we are looking to lock you up for 50+ years, without parole, for first degree murder, child endangerment (any other scary charge they can think of, to rack up more time) and we have X, Y, and Z to prove it. and A, B, and C have already said they would testify. unless, of course, you help us out here, tell us where caylee or her body can be found, and we will make sure you are out of here, pending good behavior, by the time you are 30."

i feel like faced with the guarantee of door 1 (getting out at 30 with the lesser charge of manslaughter) vs. the looming possibility of door 2 (being locked up until she is 70 something, as a child murderer, and missing all of those parties and shopping sprees and stealing excursions while she is "young and hot") could very well break her.

this is just my opinion...

 

[ebrich]

This was just over a year ago. Pretty recent. In the topix comments, someone mentioned that he did go to Colonial High School. Isn't that where Casey went?

However, I would think, if this was Caylee's biodad, there would have been some mention in all the facebook/myspace info so many of our wonderful sleuthers have found and collected?

Salem

Maybe when Jesse took the paternity test and it came back negative, Casey (the queen of lies) had a bunch of guys who were possibilities, so she said it was the dead guy.

 

[CheckDaFacts]

Ya know what guys/gals what strikes me really, really strange is how Baez seems/appears at times to be also counseling the Anthony family on the side. I would call that a form of representation. How do you council or assist your clients witness's who sent you to jail?

Ya know this is the fastest, today's victim is tomorrow's offender curve ball I have ever seen, speakin of GMA/GPA. Cindy said she thought she was at the bond hearing as a just a witness for Casey on her behalf? Its still an evidence discovery process in and of itself.

 

[olive]

Maybe when Jesse took the paternity test and it came back negative, Casey (the queen of lies) had a bunch of guys who were possibilities, so she said it was the dead guy.

That is kind of what I was thinking too

 

[LaLaw2000]

I've got my fingers crossed on this too. Although, part of me wonders if LE would have been better off to not arrest her so quickly. If she wasn't in jail LE might have had a better chance to catch her talking about things with friends, family, the media, by doing phone taps or having her friends wear wires. She's such a drama queen, I doubt she'd keep her mouth shut if she was on the outside. They were probably worried that she is unstable, a la Melinda Duckett, and didn't want to take a chance on committing suicide.

I'm hoping they've put a cooperating snitch as her cell mate.

But then LE might have lost the trunk and backyard evidence if they waited. I think you are spot on about the suicide idea.

LOL, I couldn't be her cellmate! I would be on trial for first degree murder long before she would!

A snitch would be GREAT!