Caylee Anthony 2 year old General Discussion #47

[Wise Old Owl]

Morning all - we has some "new" things come out over the weekend. One that I felt was worth looking into was now the "stain" in the trunk was "blood". I don't think that was ever confirmed by LE - but it does make sense.

So along those lines IF it was blood - wouldn't there now be some type of "blood trail" - even as little as just drops? Or on clothing (or maybe the car seat in LE's possession) or the car itself - although we have heard nothing about blood in the car.

It just stikes me funny now the stain has turned into blood

Anyone else's thoughts?

 

[bella's_mom]

Hi, newbie here and I have to throw in my 2 cents. I wanted to believe Casey even though I guess that makes me really gullible. She seems scared, she seems like she knows who the baby is with and that if she keeps her mouth shut that will protect the baby. I thought the visit from Patrick did seem like a warning. I hope her baby is with some gang member's mother or something, didn't someone on this board have a dream about Caylee being with an older woman.

MOO was that she had been abused by someone and Caylee was getting older and something scared Casey that the same abuse would happen to Caylee so she got Caylee out of the situation. I thought Father's Day was significant because a lot of the time abuse is hereditary and as people have said before the family seems to be sitting on a deep secret, add in the comments from her friend on my space that the baby is her father's and the whole thing isn't so far out. I'm hoping she gave the baby to someone she could trust. My mom watches my kids and there was a while when I didn't want my kids around my sister's boyfriend and my mother wouldn't respect that and it was an incredibly difficult time, esp. because I did appreciate her help, so I can understand how Casey would feel if she stopped feeling her baby was safe around her family and how difficult that would be, especially if she knew they could take custody from her anytime and LE wouldn't help her at all.

I thought the reverse speech was really significant. I listened to a lot of it last summer and if you listen to Joran or OJ or Susan Smith or Scott Peterson they admit to what they did, the subconscious doesn't lie. I haven't seen a reverse speech that was wrong yet (except the McCann's say they did it in reverse speech but I think they did). For a liar like Casey to have consistent reverse speech is absolutely amazing imo. I forgot what else I was going to say and the forensics will probably come back and prove me wrong but I liked the poster's husbands CSI theory about the drugs, maybe that happened and she figured Caylee was better off with drug dealers and murderers than with a child molester. Anyway, this is a crazy case. I really want to believe Casey didn't kill her baby. JMO

 

[ShouldBWorking]

http://www.wftv.com/news/17084571/detail.html

(snip)
Jesse Grund made another statement to deputies. Sources close to the investigation said the ex-fiancée stated that he is not positive he heard little Caylee Anthony on a phone conversation he had with Casey on June 24th.

Grund released a statement to Channel 9.

“I could not testify 100% that I did hear her on that specific phone call. I still believe that I did hear her but I can't separate this call with other calls I have had with Casey in the past. I definitely stand by what I said that I heard Casey scold Caylee to get off the table during that call on June 24th,” said Jesse Grund.

I feel bad for this guy!

 

[miss lisa]

We know for a fact that Caylee was last seen on Father's Day at the nursing home that Cindy's dad resides in. Do we know who all was present for that visit? Was it just Cindy and Caylee or was Casey present as well? How about George? Has that information been released to the public.....

 

[Wise Old Owl]

That got me too - it was FATHER'S DAY - where was George? He is Casey and Lee's father - nothing about a little "get together" for Father's Day? No mention that "we had a special dinner - or - we went out for dinner - or George was playing with his presents - or Caylee had a card for George - or or or - NOTHING - on Father's Day?

 

[mom_of_five]

Where IS everyone this morning?

 

[JBean]

http://www.wftv.com/news/17084571/detail.html

(snip)
Jesse Grund made another statement to deputies. Sources close to the investigation said the ex-fiancée stated that he is not positive he heard little Caylee Anthony on a phone conversation he had with Casey on June 24th.

Grund released a statement to Channel 9.

“I could not testify 100% that I did hear her on that specific phone call. I still believe that I did hear her but I can't separate this call with other calls I have had with Casey in the past. I definitely stand by what I said that I heard Casey scold Caylee to get off the table during that call on June 24th,” said Jesse Grund.

THanks for that article link SQ. I had often wondered if he actually heard Caylee or if he only heard Casey tell someone to "get off the table."

 

[wallflower67]

Is anyone else concerned to see a little girl wearing a crap load of Mardi Gras beads? And was this photo taken in the bar? It almost seems like it could have bee, it has no background.
http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t168/icons157/?action=view&current=DSCN1803.jpg

I will lay off the photo links, but it got me thinking that if Caylee was ever in the club that might be their crime scene.

I don't think it's odd to see a kid with Mardi Gras beads. I've been to parties and gave my daughter the beads because she thought they were cool and I had no use for them.

Granted, I never gave them to her when she was two due to choking hazzard.

 

[Hailiejade77]

Stopped by to see if we had any GOOD news,... obviously we don't,... I haven't been on all weekend,.. needed a HUGE break. Hopefully we will get some answers when the forensic testing on the trunk comes back.
Praying for the best for Caylee.

 

[ISPTRAX]

Having A BEER in front of a child is not neglect. I don't drink at all, never have but my husband will have A BEER at an event, and that's not neglect. If that were the case CPS would be cruising family BBQs and locking kids up left and right.

No doubt. That's a bit harsh. Yeah, have the 21 yo's over to drink some punch. I guess baby showers are where you're just supposed to have tea and cookies while playing those awful games, too, since you could affect the baby in the womb :waitasec:

 

[Patty G]

~ 50 days Caylee is missing!​

Although media reports it's been 20 days when Caylee was reported missing, it is much more alarming, scary, devastaing to see ~ 50 days and counting!

 

[miss lisa]

If Caylee and Cindy went to the nursing home alone. Where was Casey and what time did she return home? Did Cindy put Caylee to bed? Had Casey possibly been out clubing?

 

[Bobby62]

http://www.wftv.com/news/17084571/detail.html

"However, when Chanel 9 talked to Casey Anthony’s attorney, he said all of the talk about the letter is absurd. "

Absurd is an opinion. What may be absurd to him is logical to everyone else.

"He said the letter doesn’t exist "

Did he destroy it already?

"and he never asked for one in the first place."

I agree that he didn't. He would not want it because it opens up a can of ethical worms for him. It also might hang his client. But I, along with a million or so people, did hear the tape of Lee asking for the letter.

Casey told her dad that she wrote the letter and gave it to Mr. Baez. I guess the real question at this point is if dad is sure he wants to read it.

 

[fox1950]

Something else about the ''reaction'' of the family's relatives, friends, and neighbours.

When a family has a missing child or a missing adult, the whole community gathers around the family to help. Close and not so close relatives and friends travel to be near them and assist with phonecalls by the press, daily chores, door to door searches for clues and the missing person.

With the exception of the very lukewarm fundraiser a couple of days ago, I don't see any activity from friends and family like in similar cases. Other friends or aunts or cousins or neighbours going on tv and talking about the child, asking the public to help, walking miles and miles to put flyers up. Did people volunteer to do that and the Anthonys said no thank you? We know Cindy asked the friends not to comment anything to the press (still strange in my opinion to worry about that when a child is missing). There must have been offers from neighours and co-workers to help with the search and the flyers right? Cindy working in a hospital, a hospital is a big workplace, it would only be normal if for example Cindy's co-workers arranged a vigil or something for the child. But nothing. And I am more inclined to believe that a lot of people offered to do that and many more things for little Caylee. So why not happening like in so many other cases?

Great points. My exact thoughts.

 

[Blink34]

I feel bad for this guy!

In what way?

 

[blondietx]

Okay, this was brought up last night and I am still absolutely floored by this. Is it correct that LE has NOT searched the Anthony residence? Just the backyard? And the cadaver dogs were NOT brought into the house either?

I am sooo upset about this!!! It is a reasonable conclusion to come to that Caylee may have never left that house the morning of 6/16. No one has seen/heard her since, right? At least this week... So, why in the world are they not considering that there could be evidence in that house? Surely LE has considered this and has their reasons as to why they don't think it's important to search that house. Right? Or were they putting all their faith in Jesse's statement that he heard her over the phone on 6/24? Please tell me that isn't the reason.

This case is seriously making me crazy!

 

[cheko1]

Hi, newbie here and I have to throw in my 2 cents. I wanted to believe Casey even though I guess that makes me really gullible. She seems scared, she seems like she knows who the baby is with and that if she keeps her mouth shut that will protect the baby. I thought the visit from Patrick did seem like a warning. I hope her baby is with some gang member's mother or something, didn't someone on this board have a dream about Caylee being with an older woman.

MOO was that she had been abused by someone and Caylee was getting older and something scared Casey that the same abuse would happen to Caylee so she got Caylee out of the situation. I thought Father's Day was significant because a lot of the time abuse is hereditary and as people have said before the family seems to be sitting on a deep secret, add in the comments from her friend on my space that the baby is her father's and the whole thing isn't so far out. I'm hoping she gave the baby to someone she could trust. My mom watches my kids and there was a while when I didn't want my kids around my sister's boyfriend and my mother wouldn't respect that and it was an incredibly difficult time, esp. because I did appreciate her help, so I can understand how Casey would feel if she stopped feeling her baby was safe around her family and how difficult that would be, especially if she knew they could take custody from her anytime and LE wouldn't help her at all.

I thought the reverse speech was really significant. I listened to a lot of it last summer and if you listen to Joran or OJ or Susan Smith or Scott Peterson they admit to what they did, the subconscious doesn't lie. I haven't seen a reverse speech that was wrong yet (except the McCann's say they did it in reverse speech but I think they did). For a liar like Casey to have consistent reverse speech is absolutely amazing imo. I forgot what else I was going to say and the forensics will probably come back and prove me wrong but I liked the poster's husbands CSI theory about the drugs, maybe that happened and she figured Caylee was better off with drug dealers and murderers than with a child molester. Anyway, this is a crazy case. I really want to believe Casey didn't kill her baby. JMO

Welcome to WS bella!!!! Great post!

 

[Bobby62]

Could you take a minute and educate me on last nights discussion of federal charges? I don't need specific charges attached to names involved in this case but would like to know more of what is on your mind. I am kind of a hick in these matters.

Thanks

 

[wallflower67]

Where I am froom that is called environmental neglect and CPS puts your kids in foster care for it. It's not nit picking for me. It's downright wrong. IMO

I think I agree with the first poster. When my daughter was young, my friends, who also had young children, and I had parties for the adutls, or even for our kids who were too young to appreciate what their b-day meant. We all brought our kids and had kid friendly food and toys. The adults drank alcohol. None of us got stinking drunk and neglected our kids. And we all made sure no todlers could get into the alcohol.

I don't know if it's strange, but now that our kids are teens, we hardly ever drink alcohol when we get together, even if our kids aren't there. Either we're getting too old to really party, or we don't want our kids to smell beer on us and think it's okay to drink! I know both apply to me, but I think I worry about the latter.

 

[Blink34]

I don't think they were either. But I would bet they have a pretty good idea of what happened.

I concur, and it angers me that they don't put an end to this and concentrate on getting Casey to confess where she put Caylee- that is my issue here..