Caylee Anthony 2 year old General Discussion #47

[ketel0ne]

Not only did he say the letter doesn't exist, he is reported by Channel 9 as saying that the idea is 'absurd'.



Little smack at George there.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17084571/detail.html

As weird as this case is, this could be the straw that breaks the camels back for Gma, Gpa and Lee. they apparently were holding out a lot of hope for this letter.

 

[liltigress]

IMO, I tend to think Jose is backing away from this case because he does not believe in his client's innocence any longer.

He may even make himself scarce in order to NOT receive this letter.

 

[SuziQ]

I edited to fix the link regarding the profiler on David Lohr's blog:

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/08/criminal-profil.html

 

[miss lisa]

If Casey placed this letter in Jose's hand herself, she can discredit him saying he never received it.

If LE or the jailers or whoever placed this letter in Jose's hand, they can also discredit him saying he never received this letter.

What logical reason would he have for lying, knowing he would be busted in that lie?

I don't think he got this letter.

I think that this is just another lie by Casey.

Remember she told Lee that she would do it when she had "time" implying that she has been so busy. Ummm I believe that she has had nothing but time. She just doesn't want to do what Lee has ask her to do.... IMO

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Then it would make sense that Casey lied about giving it to him. Par for the course!

 

[Wise Old Owl]

Blink - I have to say that I am very intrigued by your opinion and I completely respect it. But I do have one question. Do you think we will see these charges emerge? Or will they wait until this whole "messy" situation is over and the world has moved on before they act on them so if it is ever reported it will just appear as some obscure little "by the way" article buried on page 10 of the local papers?

 

[Blink34]

Don't you have to consider then the timeline going back to the last person seen with Caylee was Cindy and the last time Caylee was known to be seen alive or heard from was June 15th?

That is what is troubling to me the most. If you buy that the moving of her body, which is pretty credible via the dog hits, occurred between 6/23 and 6/27 then you have to buy that she dug up a body that could have been buried for 2 weeks. I just feel there would be alot more physical evidence in that case, - I guess it comes down to the stain?
Couple that with I truly think she was locked out of that house-

 

[liltigress]

I think there's a far greater likelihood that Casey lied to her dad about sending a letter.

I'm sure we'll be seeing George on camera in the near future saying that he misheard her daughter and that she's 'working on' a letter.

I agree. Since when is someone sitting behind bars pressed for time to do anything? Is she only allowed pen and paper during "rec" time? I'd bet LE would be giving her ample rec time if the thought she may be writing a letter with more clues or even a confession.

Rec time.. puh-lease.

 

[wallflower67]

IMO if Casey cared enough to protect Caylee from an abuser, she would have also been doing things from the time this little girl was born to try and give her the best life possible. By now Casey would have gotten her act together and gotten her high school diploma, without that what chance did she really have of getting a job? After that she would have been working towards taking a class, something so she could better provide for her child. In the last almost 3 years, do we know of anything Casey has done to work towards a goal for her and Caylee's future or did she simply think that by hanging out in the clubs one day her prince was going to show up and rescue her?

VB

Like I said, I don't really believe this is the situation, but if it is, Casey may not have gotten her act together. Casey's partying ways and self-destructiveness could be evidence that she was abused. Abused kids often grow up to be irresponsible adults and parents.

Having been in this situation (abused, not "oh darn, I misplaced my child!") I have to say that had I had a child in my teens or early twenties, before I'd had lots of therapy, I'm sure I would have been a really crappy mom. I really thought I deserved my abuse (physical), wrote my abuse off as the normal way to discipline kids, and carried a lot of anger until my late 20s. I probably wouldn't have thought twice about letting my mom babysit. Of course, knowing what I know now, I never did let her babysit.

 

[Lanie]

Don't you have to consider then the timeline going back to the last person seen with Caylee was Cindy and the last time Caylee was known to be seen alive or heard from was June 15th?

I just don't get this. You don't need physical evidence to establish last person seen with, like pictures or videos. Yes, there is photographical evidence showing Cindy with Caylee on the 15th, but that doesn't automatically make her the last known person with Caylee. Drew Peterson is the last known person to have seen his wife, Stacy, but I am sure the last known photo of her was not the day or so before she went missing, and quite possibly was not with him.

Casey herself established she was the last known person to see Caylee, stating she handed her off to this 'nanny' and never saw her again. If any proof had been found this nanny existed, then she would be the last known person have seen her, until that happens, it all falls back to Casey.
Lanie

 

[DianeB]

That is what is troubling to me the most. If you buy that the moving of her body, which is pretty credible via the dog hits, occurred between 6/23 and 6/27 then you have to buy that she dug up a body that could have been buried for 2 weeks. I just feel there would be alot more physical evidence in that case, - I guess it comes down to the stain?
Couple that with I truly think she was locked out of that house-

You think they would have intentionally locked her out if she had Caylee with her?

Since she presumably has at least one key, it would mean changing both the physical locks and the keypad code on the garage.

Or are you speaking metaphorically?

 

[Bobby62]

Bobby- it is simply my opinion that there are investigations that develop inside the "primary" investigation (in this case Caylee) that could lead to charges not covered or applicable under Florida Code, but fall under Federal jurisdiction. I said that we should consider that the reason(s) the FBI is involved is not necessarily just on the potential for kidnapping charge, or to asisst as COC..
It is very common in an investigation of this size and scope to review all possibilities to leverage potential witnesses, etc..
I am not making specific allegations against anyone, I am simply stating my opinion that it may be a possibility..
I hope I answered your question

Thanks. I hope they apply that lever soon.

 

[Cubby]

when I look at these photos, I have a REALLY hard time believing that Casey hurt that baby. I seriously think she is involved in something WAY deeper and she knows if she talks she will go down for that. I believe there could have been another body in the trunk and God knows what else. But I know that the people on here have found some interesting things about people she associated with. She just acts like she knows Caylee is ok and knows that they aren't goin to find any evidence of her death and that's why she's so confident. That just blows my mind. She's way too confident and cool headed. Is she detached emotionally from Caylee...yes...or so it seems,but did she kill her in cold blood...I still can't say I buy that yet. Was Casey involved in something really huge and illegal that involved a lot of people...it is VERY possible. I do also think she is enjoying the pain Cindy is in over this missing baby. She used Caylee as a weapon against Cindy and that's obvious. I just think this case is unlike the others we have seen...and the whole "CSI" type of theories are not so unlikely in this case. I think the best one I have heard is that she is with the biological fathers family who has a Zenaida relative OR that Zenaida was an illegal who Casey owed lots of money too....and all her lies, I think she could just be covering her own butt to keep her from getting in trouble from something else really bad she was involved in. JMO...

I agree!

 

[olive]

IMO, I tend to think Jose is backing away from this case because he does not believe in his client's innocence any longer.

He may even make himself scarce in order to NOT receive this letter.

Why do you think Jose is backing away?

 

[Blink34]

IMO, I tend to think Jose is backing away from this case because he does not believe in his client's innocence any longer.

He may even make himself scarce in order to NOT receive this letter.

I agree, I posted that I think he is about to quit, get fired on purpose, or request withdrawl on grounds. Maybe even go on the record today to say he represents Casey and not the Anthony's..

Also, commenting on the visit with George yesterday he characterized as "tough" or whatever. As they are aware that visit is subject to PI release, I am thinking that LE has given them the beat the clock scenario I referenced earlier. ie: we will agree not to release the visits until day X, but that is all the time you have to get her to talk.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

That is what is troubling to me the most. If you buy that the moving of her body, which is pretty credible via the dog hits, occurred between 6/23 and 6/27 then you have to buy that she dug up a body that could have been buried for 2 weeks. I just feel there would be alot more physical evidence in that case, - I guess it comes down to the stain?
Couple that with I truly think she was locked out of that house-

Couldn't the smell have stayed with the car from 6/15 even a day or two later? Maybe she was only borrowing the shovel for the lock and the gasoline that day...not to rebury anything. The dirt on the shovel may not match the soil samples in the Anthony yard or trunk at all.

 

[TallCoolOne]

Okay, this has probably been discussed ad nauseum, but my time to read is limited and this case has moved at lightening speed.... but two things that I have wondered about. One, I'm confused what she's claiming about the Sims card for the phone. How can she have the sims card from the phone that she claims she lost? Isn't that from inside the phone itself? Or am I just confused?

Also, did anyone else notice the story about her claimed call from Caylee on the 15th, one version she said the number was private, yet at one point she also said the number was now disconnected. I think both statements were from the released phone calls she had with Lee. Did anyone else get that?

 

[Bobby62]

If Casey placed this letter in Jose's hand herself, she can discredit him saying he never received it.

If LE or the jailers or whoever placed this letter in Jose's hand, they can also discredit him saying he never received this letter.

What logical reason would he have for lying, knowing he would be busted in that lie?

I don't think he got this letter.

HE may have gotten the letter and still not lied. Read the past few pages of posts on it.

 

[SuziQ]

Here is the website for Dr. Schurman-Kauflin. Background info is interesting and her articles online are very good reading.

http://www.drdsk.com/index.html

Link to articles:
http://www.drdsk.com/articles.html

 

[Nedthan Johns]

Liltigress: "She is crying inside and broken hearted," George Anthony said. "She said, 'Dad, I want to be home for her birthday."

Me, me, me, me! SHE wants to be home for Caylee's birthday. What about wanting CAYLEE home for her own damn birthday!!! They seriously make me ill.


Nedthan: The more this family talks, the more dysfunction we can detect. I was wondering over the weekend, why George (a retired Sheriff) had not questioned his daughter until this weekend. And why not ONE member of that family has walked away with a sketch of this so called babysitter, or one piece of evidence that can help investigators. I believe investigators were hoping by news conference last week that by putting pressure on the family and Casey she may crack. Now they can see that she holds the cards and has been manipulating her family for years. Casey has complete control and it appears her entire family has chosen to cover for her. Casey's only response was she is close, really close, and George is still hopefull??!! What the H##. These parents have been treating this woman like a child for years. What about telling their daughter that she is in some serious trouble and may be facing murder charges? what about asking her for a description of Zenida? What about asking them if anyone else has met her?

The STAR prosecution witness for this case is going to be Tony. Could be why Casey was so eager to speak with him.