Caylee Anthony 2 years old #7: General Discussion

[MistyM]

If either grandparent had been home when Casey borrowed the shovel, I'd be inclined to agree. But since they weren't, it looks to me like Casey buried her in the back yard, dug her up (using the borrowed shovel) and put her into the trunk of her car. Naturally when the analysis of the dirt comes back they'll know if this is what happened (as in if the dirt was the same that was in the yard).

i hope that if there is dirt inside the trunk, and casey did rebury poor caylee, that there is soil evidence of where she may have buried her. i don't know if she will break down and tell where she hid her.

 

[*~Aimee~*]

I would tend to agree with you EXCEPT if it was something liek this.

Casey knows that CINDY did it, and doesn't want to tell anything to LE for fear that cindy will pin it back on her.Maybe cindy killed Caylee, and is trying to make Casey take the blame. But if Casey gets immunity she could come clean about what she knows about her daughter.

this is exactly what I am thinking. So Sad.

 

[imnotheonlyone]

I found the detective very professional and interesting/ I think he believes this Mother has been lying and Caylee is dead

I LOVED him! He knows how to do his job, and he did a great job today - his demeanor (body language, tone..) was purposeful and confident.

 

[MistyM]

I'm only on page 2 of this thread and don't know if this has been mentioned yet............

On Nancy Grace today, she had on a woman dog handler with Homeland Security, showing how cadaver dogs work. The woman said that the day before she had hidden cadaver scent on the set in the studio where she was being filmed. She took the dog off it's lead and gave it a signal. The dog immediately ran to a sofa that had a lot of pillows on it and jumped up on the sofa and sat by one particular pillow. The dog handler went to the dog and gave it it's reward - a dog toy. Behind the pillow was a jar holding a tightly wrapped sheet that had covered a cadaver.

Nancy Grace asked the handler.........."dogs can smell the sent of a cadaver even if the scent in in a sealed jar?" The dog handler said, "yes, a dog's sense of smell is so strong, that even in a sealed container the dog can smell the scent." Nancy asked a lot of good questions. One was, "Can a cadaver dog tell the difference between a human cadaver and an animal carcass." The handler assured Nancy that the dogs are trained specifically for HUMAN cadavers, not animals and will alert only on human remains.

The dog handler also said that dogs trained for cadavers won't alert on drugs, bombs, etc. - that drug sniffing and bomb sniffing dogs are trained for that particular task only, and won't alert on cadavers.

It was very clear that a cadaver dog is NOT going to alert on old pizza left in a car.

and when they were following cindy asking her about the 'stench' in the trunk she was very adamant in proclaiming that she TOLD THEM ALREADY it was a 'bag of rotten pizza with maggots'. which was a lie.

 

[c2cd208]

Isn't this just the craziest thing you've ever heard of? What in the world was this woman thinking, and why is it so important that we believe that the child was missing for a week longer than she actually was?

So that Casey and Cindy could say she was gone longer in case of when and if the body is found and an estimated time of death points to only 4 weeks instead of five. This way they can implicate that someone else, whoever they want to claim had Caylee ( IE: the baby sitter ) and move the focus from themselves.

 

[Blink34]

THAT would have been a great question from the PA - beings Cindy stated that all Casey had to worry about was spending money since she lived at home.....

Agreed, a better question would have been: Since we know you get canned and your stealing from us blind- why do you need a babysitter??

Or

In 2 years, though GM says they lived with her DAILY until May-ish, no-one has ever met FG?? I kinow she says she never met God but she knows he is there, but I never met Casey, but I know she is a pathological liar and substance abuser and caused the death of her child.

 

[Reannan]

I'm going to think aloud here for a minute..... I am struggling to keep this all straight...please bear with me.

Could this be a possibility?

Could Casey have buried Caylee in the yard - revealed the truth to Cindy (and/or George & Lee) - she and Cindy come up with the "story," dig Caylee's body up and transport her elsewhere in Casey's car, once it had been recovered from the tow yard?

Exactly!!! I think they made the discovery and dug the body up without telling George anything. I think they realized when they were moving the body that the car was going to stink to high heaven, and they placed a bag of trash in it. I think they then dumped the vehicle and waited..... I don't think George had a clue as to what was going on. He knew he smelled something horrible, and wa-la! found a bag of trash that he disposed of. In the back of his mind, however....he KNEW what he had smelled when Caysee was missing. He KNEW - and he has been told to shut up by GM ever since. I can't imagine protecting my daughter from her having killed her own daughter. :sick::croc: P.S. sorry for having confused "theonlyone" with "theoneandonly"....although I do think it sort of applies! :takeabow:

 

[MistyM]

So that Casey and Cindy could say she was gone longer in case of when and if the body is found and an estimated time of death points to only 4 weeks instead of five. This way they can implicate that someone else, whoever they want to claim had Caylee ( IE: the baby sitter ) and move the focus from themselves.

i agree, but isn't that just horrible??!!! i'm sure they know these things too, with all the crime dramas on tv and grandfather being a former LE.

 

[SuziQ]

I LOVED him! He knows how to do his job, and he did a great job today - his demeanor (body language, tone..) was purposeful and confident.

I agree!

 

[imnotheonlyone]

PRAY that Casey does not snap and do something to herself, taking these answers with her - my greatest fear at this moment.

 

[Hailiejade77]

I am reposting this from an earlier thread.

"I am trying to catch up on this thread but I did watch the hearing online. Here are a few things that I have to point out before I forget!

*it seemed to me that both Casey and GM were fake crying. Wipe away tears that weren't there. Although Casey did have really red eyes but I think it was from her wiping that tissue over and over on her eyes.

*Is Jeff Hopkins the same Jeff that had ZG babysit his son as well as Caylee?

*The GM was quite rude to the lady asking questions at the hearing,.. just like she was to reporters. I am glad the judge and prosecutor put her in her place!

*I loved it when the detective said that GM said she wouldn't give her father's name to him and that SHE would follow up on it! And to leave her poor dad out of it. And then when the camera was pointed on her. she was saying I didn't say that,..

*June 24th was the phone call with Jesse heard Caylee in the background when he was talking to Casey. And if this is TRUE,.. then why was it June 9th, then June 15th the last date they saw Caylee? Casey would have seen her on June 25th,..WHY LIE?

*Why did she want Tony's phone number when she was in jail and she talked to her brother on the phone?

*The car is very telling,.. the cadavier (sp) dogs hitting on the car and the back yard. And plus the stain, hair consistent to Caylee's and dirt in the truck along with the smell, I think would be enough as probable cause to hold her,.. wouldn't you think? Atleast until the test results were back to see if it is Caylee's DNA.

*And the final thing is this: WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE IF SHE IS IN JAIL OR NOT? WHY DOES SHE HAVE TO BE OUT OF JAIL TO TELL WHAT SHE KNOWS? THIS IS THE STUPIDEST THING I HAVE EVER HEARD!


I think more and more people are going to get arrested before this case is through. Also here is a question,... has anyone seen or heard if Casey made bail yet????? And is it a FACT that LE is going to rearrest her when she gets out?

 

[imnotheonlyone]

P.S. sorry for having confused "theonlyone" with "theoneandonly"....although I do think it sort of applies! :takeabow:

At first I smiled, then thought, "oh no - is she telling me something? I HOPE I don't come across that way!" :crazy:

 

[dr dona]

I think whoever "dumped" the body (presumably) abandoned the car because it did smell to high heaven. To take it back to GP's house would have resulted in earlier discovery. She/He/They may have assumed the odor would fade with time. Wrong! But, why not really dump the car and say it was stolen with Caylee in it?????? If one really hid the car this lie may have worked. Someone else did it????

 

[maconrich]

i hope that if there is dirt inside the trunk, and casey did rebury poor caylee, that there is soil evidence of where she may have buried her. i don't know if she will break down and tell where she hid her.

That would be excellent!! I didn't think of dirt from the next/final burial site being found in the trunk, but hopefully...

Right now, based on what they said (the dogs hitting on areas in the backyard and then on the car - specifically the trunk) they should at least be able to prove Caylee was buried in the backyard and then moved to the trunk of the car. He said they found dirt, a hair that they believe was Caylee's and an unknown at this time fluid. Once they get the results back they should know much more. God this is soooo sad

 

[SuziQ]

At first I smiled, then thought, "oh no - is she telling me something? I HOPE I don't come across that way!" :crazy:

Thanks to you two lovebirds I spewed ice water all over!

 

[DeltaDawn]

Tryng to keep up here. I listened to today's bond hearing, until the station cut out just as the judge was specifying the bond.

Is it possible, that Casey left Caylee with someone who did her harm and Casey didn't know how to tell her family that? It sounds stupid I know...but somehow I don't think Casey hurt her daughter, maybe someone else she was involved with did and this is her best way of covering it up and dealing with it. I think this young woman has lots of issues about reality and the real world..but it is still possible someone else did this to Caylee and told her if she told they would do the same to her?

Then I think, if I was her age and anyone hurt my child in anyway..I would have been at the police station and on the phone to my family in a New York minute..something about this whole deal is so not understandable to me.

 

[imnotheonlyone]

Exactly!!! I think they made the discovery and dug the body up without telling George anything. I think they realized when they were moving the body that the car was going to stink to high heaven, and they placed a bag of trash in it. I think they then dumped the vehicle and waited..... I don't think George had a clue as to what was going on. He knew he smelled something horrible, and wa-la! found a bag of trash that he disposed of. In the back of his mind, however....he KNEW what he had smelled when Caysee was missing. He KNEW - and he has been told to shut up by GM ever since. I can't imagine protecting my daughter from her having killed her own daughter. :sick::croc: P.S. sorry for having confused "theonlyone" with "theoneandonly"....although I do think it sort of applies! :takeabow:

Oh God! I hadn't thought of it that way -
This case is killing me!!!!!!!!! So much deception, so much sadness, so many questions!

 

[Nugrandma1]

Well I think the whole family is crazy as loons. The Grandmother scares the beejezus out of me. She's one mean looking woman. She's got into a pi@@@ing match with just about every pundent out there, made Nancy G. mad, Whorealdo, Dan Abrams and Greta VS upset. She's just plain nutz.

I think they all know what happened and the only reason they want her out of jail is to get her out of the country. I think they want to cover up this mess.

I believe the poor baby is dead and someone did it.

I do think Grandma and Casey dug up the body and moved it in the car as you surmised. I think that was what the dogs smelled in the car and they had cadaver smell in the yard itself. Mom probably accidentally killed her or deliberately killed her. Grandma is lying to cover up things. I think that after she (the grandma called the cops) Casey told her what happened and they quickly dug up the body and moved it.

 

[MistyM]

Tryng to keep up here. I listened to today's bond hearing, until the station cut out just as the judge was specifying the bond.

Is it possible, that Casey left Caylee with someone who did her harm and Casey didn't know how to tell her family that? It sounds stupid I know...but somehow I don't think Casey hurt her daughter, maybe someone else she was involved with did and this is her best way of covering it up and dealing with it. I think this young woman has lots of issues about reality and the real world..but it is still possible someone else did this to Caylee and told her if she told they would do the same to her?

Then I think, if I was her age and anyone hurt my child in anyway..I would have been at the police station and on the phone to my family in a New York minute..something about this whole deal is so not understandable to me.

for some reason i think if that were true, she would have said something while under the protection of being in jail. i don't think she's like 'us' who would do the right thing. she lied alot and stole from people. not exactly a stellar citizen. so not suprising she would try to get away with this. just my opinion.

 

[dr dona]

PS--Maggots come from flies often specific types that love dead bodies
The old pizza I have in my trash bags has never attracted maggots. This would be a lot less likely if one put the trash bag in the trunk--Not alot of flies in my trunk either. Also LE is correct --nothing else smells like a decomposing body. Same can be said for the odor of burned human flesh. Makes me want to barf!!!!