Caylee Anthony General Discussion Thread #123

[shadow of my mind]

Heyyyyyyy...did she do something either TO or WITH Caylee so that she could use a missing Caylee and her "personal investigation" as a means by which to justify the money she stole from her mother...and God only knows who else? Maybe Casey's "problem" and the thing she was afraid of, was getting busted for stealing the money. Perhaps a missing Caylee was her "solution"...justification for stealing the money.

Did that make ANY sense at all???

KInda. Any person with the signs of mental disorders this girl has could come up with a ratinalization like that. She has a fanasty plan and then does things to make it work. I just don't know when the money was stolen. All at once or over a period of some years. I read the figure was like 25K but don't have any documents to back that up.

 

[Jolynna]

I keep bouncing back and forth. I also wonder about the decomp in the trunk. Might be why LE didn't press additional charges. The DNA didn't match Caylee and now they have another mystery.
Then I go back to the hits in the yard so what was that from.

I don't think there is any more mystery. The prosecutors aren't being goaded by Baez or a spokespersson into rushing to file charges until the investigation is complete.

DNA in the trunk doesn't PROVE murder. More of the public now believes there was a tragic accident Casey is trying to cover up than that she did something deliberate. And rightfully so. Being an unconcerned or even bad mother or a partier isn't hard evidence of WHAT or HOW things happened.

But, just maybe the evidence, yet to be found, will prove Casey did the unthinkable on purpose.

If LE believed was a living child yet to be saved, I think they'd conduct their case differently. But, they have made it very evident what they believe.

IMO

 

[PeteyGirl]

Borderline Personality Disorder. Then you can add a few other goodies on top of it to get a really messed up person. One thing they are not is anti-social. They are so good at acting whatever part they are playing it is amazing. >swarcasm on Wonder if that was what Cindy ment by Mother of Year Award? >sarcasm off

Antisocial personality disorder and borderline PD are in the same "cluster" of "related" personality disorders in the DSM (psychiatrist's diagnosis manual). So actually, they have very noticeable similarities.

ASPD, Borderline, Histrionic and Narcissistic PDs are in "cluster B", and all share many common characteristics . . . poor impulse control, deceitfulness, little or no empathy, disregard for conventional morals and laws and respect for authority.

A borderline is generally a bit more "functional" than the rest . . . and Casey just shows NO empathy, no regret, only this cold self interest. That is pure ASPD, to me. The REAL person can have traits of many of the above PDs, and then a psychiatrist is likely to use a diagnosis of "Personality Disorder NOS (meaning nonspecific) with cluster B traits".

WhatEVER she is, she is a menace.

 

[Amster]

Is there a diagram anywhere of the backyard and the places the dogs hit?

 

[nickismom]

No, I don't think she was left with anyone. Nobody has identified anyone who babysat Caylee. Yet Casey frequently went out. She had no job, so no money other than what she stole, and I don't think she would spend that money on babysitters, even if she had any.

My conclusion is that when Cindy and George couldn't babysit, she left Caylee alone in a house somewhere. The Oviedo house might be a good candidate for this.

This is theory. I haven't seen anything to indicate it. Just trying to figure out what may have happened to Caylee, because I want the baby found and laid to rest properly.

Maybe she left her alone in a house where the people were gone, babysat by zanny or cough syrup or . . . Cindy said that Caylee spoke of the puppy at the "nanny's house." Was there a puppy at the Oviedo house?

 

[FIND'HER]

I have a quesion. I can't seem to find it now, but I got a link somewhere in these forums to a photobucket site where someone has pictures that have to do with this case:

http://s138.photobucket.com/albums/q259/M2KFL/CAYLEE ANTHONY CASE/?start=all

And on it are two pictures of arial maps showing more than one cell phone ping. Where the heck did these come from? I love it!

The little icons of cameras on those pages...are they traffic cameras?

The Inmate on these pics..Who is she??What kind of uproar is she causing???:behindbar

 

[JBean]

Is there a diagram anywhere of the backyard and the places the dogs hit?

you might want to check here if no one has it handy:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68989

 

[Leila]

I keep bouncing back and forth. I also wonder about the decomp in the trunk. Might be why LE didn't press additional charges. The DNA didn't match Caylee and now they have another mystery.
Then I go back to the hits in the yard so what was that from.

The hits in the backyard combined with the hit on the car trunk makes me think it wouldn't be someone other than Caylee. I can't see someone trying to bury a stranger in the backyard of the Anthony home.

 

[nickismom]

BeanE : Sorry. Some here have joked here that Zanny is code for Xanax. I was not referring to an actual babysitter.

 

[ThoughtElf]

Sure! We can move into tents, across from the Anthonys, and flag down Zaneida when she drives by. I'm sure the Padillas would let us use their facilities, when needed. I'll ask Tony next time he pops in.

And hey, I'm a good Pious Soul! I'll even volunteer to clean the stanky pizza RV bathroom!

 

[softsoul]

Yes, and I was stating that from what can be verified she shows 2 of the criteria. (Kinda.)

Not sure what you're not seeing but we'll have to agree to disagree. Unless it turns out that Caylee was kidnapped then I do not see how she will not be diagnosed Antisocial....I'd bet my house. :thumb:

 

[ThoughtElf]

Where do you worship?

Yes! I'd like to explore this denomination, too!

 

[LI_Mom]

I'm bringing up Casey going to the Baptist Church tomorrow. I'm Baptist, and I would not attend if she were there until this is straightened out. This is all for show in case of a future murder trial. The preacher can go to her home and counsel her, the deacons of the church can go pray with family, and the women of the church can help Cindy if she needs it. I would not want to sit in church with this going on and especially all the press that will be there. It's not right for little elderly people trying to attend church and children going to Sunday School. Why doesn't she go on Wednesday night to Prayer Meeting. That's what she needs most and she had access to God where ever she is.

:clap::clap:

Beautifully said.

A considerate person doesn't put THEIR needs over the needs of a whole community..... it's rather selfish to force other people to deal with circumstances such as these. She's only been out a few days.... it's still a major circus wherever she goes. In a couple of months, things MIGHT calm down.... who knows.

IF the whole congregation (and by that I mean all the REGULAR members) personally invited/wanted them all to come, of course, that's a different story.

 

[rozey]

What if Caylee was not in the back yard and the hits by the cadaver dogs were where Casey was.. for example she went back to the house after disposing of Caylee and jumped in the pool to clean herself off, thats why the ladder was there. Thus stripping off her clothes and laying them on the ground and maybe one or both of the dogs drug them around because they smelled causing the decomp to be deposited in several areas.

 

[PeteyGirl]

Three or more of the following are required:

1. Failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest;

Stealing from others

2. Deceitfulness, as indicated by repeatedly lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure;

Lying about her place of work, ZG's residence

3. Impulsivity or failure to plan ahead;



Stealing from others, driving without a license, um, not contacting LE about her missing daughter :crazy:

4. Irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults;

Nastiness in recorded calls from jail toward whoever would not immediately grant her wishes

5. Reckless disregard for safety of self or others;

Let's see, now that's a hard one :waitasec: (((where the hell did you put Caylee??)))

6. Consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain consistent work behavior or honor financial obligations;

Did not work for any sustained period of time, did not graduate from high school

7. Lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another.

Another hard one uke: for the life of me I can't see how this one fits uke:

Sorry if someone already did this. She's still ringin' all seven bells to me!

 

[shadow of my mind]

Does any of Casey's 'friends' have a dog that Caylee would be refering to. Of course that bit of info is from Cindy. Might help in in regards to who watched the child.

 

[lillygator]

Welcome Lillygator!!

TY~!

Snippage of some good points.

I'm so jaded, I think the ONLY reason they're going to church is PR. The ONLY reason.

It's all about building a defense, creating just that sniggling of doubt in a possible juror's mind.

Wonder if Cindy will be packing a hose??

I hae to think so too-I mean why else

 

[believe09]

:rocker::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::toast:

I don't know where to put this so I will put it here.

If this is against TOS I will discuss it with myself and time myself out if need be :crazy:

You all remember the pizza delivered to the Anthony family? It was a member of the forum www.dreamindemon.com that had the pizza sent to the family with the message; "With love and decomp from the Dreamin’ Demon.”

It seems that some posters on WS thought the posters at DreaminDemon were lying about the pizza. They were not.

The administrator of the forum sent me a very long and polite email explaining that they are not liars. Here is just a little bit of what she said;

We're not mad at you at all, but we just wanted to get that cleared
up. We've shared a lot of traffic on this case, and we don't want you
to think we're liars. Jerks, maybe. Snickering adolescents,
definitely. But we're not liars.

Guys, it was a very nice and very funny email. I appreciated the fact that "Imp Queen" wanted to set the record straight about her forum and she did it in a polite manner. That is rare these days.

 

[CASuzk]

Maybe I missed this but are the Anthony's members of the Baptist church?

I know Mom wears a big glittery cross but I thought she might have gotten that from the wardrobe mistress since the Anthony's seem to be the featured leads in Theatre of the Absurd.

 

[LI_Mom]

Not sure what you're not seeing but we'll have to agree to disagree. Unless it turns out that Caylee was kidnapped then I do not see how she will not be diagnosed Antisocial....I'd bet my house. :thumb:

The only question we should be concerned with is if she's LEGALLY SANE or not.

IMO, it's clear she is.... she covered her butt VERY nicely for 31 days & specifically said, she didn't tell anyone that Caylee was missing because she was afraid "they'd pin it on her!"

So who cares if she has a personality disorder or not..... the jails are FILLED WITH people who have various mental illnesses.... perfectly well adjusted people rarely commit serious crimes.