Caylee Anthony General Discussion Thread #73

[Patty G]

The day BEFORE the video was made. Why hasn't anyone pieced that together?!

I have said early on that "Cindy was the last one to see Caylee alive". This goes way back before we found out anything else.

I know I switched when it came out that the Cindy and George came up with the 16th of June, but I think of Casey "free call" to her mother saying something like "what do you mean you don't know". I have to find the accurate quote from Casey.

I even questioned recently, how come no one saw Caylee the morning of the 16th. All of a sudden Caylee is going with her mother with backpacks. Didn't anyone see Caylee in the morning having breakfast, lunch etc. George claims he was watching TV at 12:50 PM, he didn't see Caylee in the kitchen at any time etc. etc.

 

[ketel0ne]

Unless the corpse is in a container... airtight....

Would something the size of a 48qt cooler even fit in the Pontiac?

 

[shannon718]

I have said early on that "Cindy was the last one to see Caylee alive". This goes way back before we found out anything else.

I know I switched when it came out that the Cindy and George came up with the 16th of June, but I think of Casey "free call" to her mother saying something like "what do you mean you don't know". I have to find the accurate quote from Casey.

I even questioned recently, how come no one saw Caylee the morning of the 16th. All of a sudden Caylee is going with her mother with backpacks. Didn't anyone see Caylee in the morning having breakfast, lunch etc. George claims he was watching TV at 12:50 PM, he didn't see Caylee in the kitchen at any time etc. etc.

I don't feel that Cindy was involved in any way before the fact and I always took the "you don't know my involvement in things" comment from Casey to Cindy.....was Casey being INCREDULOUS that her mother would stand up to her or doubt her in any way....to come out and call her a liar. Oh No casey would NOT put up with that from her family.

That is all that meant.

 

[Beagle1]

Since CSI went to the Anthony's house they must have went to the boyfriend's apartment as well right? Casey was living there alone so....plenty of privacy there. Did we hear anything about this....?

I wondered about that also. The LE seemed to keep coming back to the Anthony's home. I just guessed it was because of the pings from the cell phones.

 

[Patty G]

One more thought, it was Cindy and Caylee in the pool the evening of July 15th per Cindy's interview OTR.

 

[TripleA]

Caylee wasn't very big, she could have fit in a rubbermaid container.

 

[housemouse]

Unless the corpse is in a container... airtight....

Very interesting, lilacwine. Any coolers missing from the Anthony's house?

Any purchases made by Casey in the time frame for coolers/containers/dry ice?

I am still going by the charts, and hoping to decipher something practical that would be helpful. Will post on my thread if I find anything.

 

[shannon718]

I wondered about that also. The LE seemed to keep coming back to the Anthony's home. I just guessed it was because of the pings from the cell phones.

Really weird...that isn't one of my posts....how strange. I never wrote that.

Any way it has been said that Tony's apartment was gone through with a fine tooth comb.

 

[GameTheory]

I have always thought Casey's "trigger" was the new boyfriend and his group of friends. There was no room for Caylee in that life.

Yes but that would be the general theme. There must be a trigger as well,,,a more specific reason because after all she had 3 years to get used to the idea she had a baby. Secondly she was not a single mother striving to make ends meet. Her parents were taking care of everything, roof above their heads, pocket money, gaz money, everything. Not many people in Casey's situation have so generous parents. Thirdly, she was not deprived of a social life. Quite the contrary. Going out plenty, having boyfriends.

A trigger that could pressure on her for example could be the grandparents telling her they would seek custody (that would be a trigger for revenge and making sure that will never happen, even if it meant what it might meant).

A trigger could be a boyfriend saying he didn't want children living with him. (a trigger of not wanting to loose the boyfriend)

A trigger could be a boyfriend saying I have a job offer to another city for 6 months and I am going. Do you want to come? No kids allowed. (a trigger of feeling the child was holding her back in fulfilling her dreams in life)

A trigger could be a roomate saying I don't want to move in with you if you are bringing the child to live with us. (a trigger of feeling the child was holding her back from moving out of her parents).



p.s. I am just using examples to say that the police must be checking of all Casey's relationships and what words were exchanged what events happen to see if something might have made her want to harm the baby. I am not implying in any reason the above happened or any of the people mentioned in the above scenarios are responsible for anything. Just trying to explain myself. If the police cannot find a satisfactory explanation they have to consider whether an accident happened.

 

[ketel0ne]

One more thought, it was Cindy and Caylee in the pool the evening of July 15th per Cindy's interview OTR.

So true but then do you have to discount the 911 calls?

 

[Nickelfoo]

GAME: i don't think that it would be that difficult. If there is a second simm and thats a big IF, then that simm has GOT to belong to someone and they will be able to investigate that and tie it back to her somehow in some way. In the US you cannot buy a simm without proper indentification......stolen id or not. the phone number will be in SOMEONES name.

Just to clarify, you can purchase a SIM without an ID. I work in the communications industry and if someone comes in to open a new pre-paid account, we ask them the information we need for the account, name, address, SS#, DOB, etc...... But unless it is a monthly billed account, we do not need to verify this information. The simply purchase minutes and once those are gone, they either buy more or dont. I work in the billing department and one of my duties is to provide LE with Subpeona information. We require that LE provide very specific information as to what they want. Names, numbers, accounts, records, etc..... We are very careful when it comes to providing this information. It would be very easy for Casey to go into a random store and purchase one of these accounts and no one would ever know, except the store she bought it from.

 

[TripleA]

I really don't think that Cindy knew anything before the 911 calls. I think that she has learned about an "accident" between the 3rd 911 call and the time the cops knocked on the door that evening.

 

[zadari]

you know when her brother said gotcha mabey they were refering to drugs ? like being sold or getting ? mabey for all we know a drug dealer has that little girl mabey casey owes ALOT of money ? mabey she was a runner ? and her being in jail is protecting the baby cuz she isnt turning this guy in ? . i know it may sound off the wall but what if ? mabey that is what her parents are meaning when they cant reveal ect .. drug people can be scary . and they will do anything to ensure thier money . or mabey she sold the girl to get drugs ive seen stranger things like babies for sale on ebay .. go ahead laugh at me .. lol

 

[Beagle1]

One more thought, it was Cindy and Caylee in the pool the evening of July 15th per Cindy's interview OTR.

Yes, she said to Greta that it was too cold for Casey, but did say that Casey got Caylee out of the pool while she (Cindy) got out and put away the ladder.

 

[shannon718]

Caylee wasn't very big, she could have fit in a rubbermaid container.

I don't believe in containers bags or freezers at all. She could have covered her with something (dirt? ) whatever she did I believe it would have been quick, sneaky, and sloppy.

The other stuff is too "serial killer" to me...not covering up.IMHO:blowkiss:

 

[shannon718]

Just to clarify, you can purchase a SIM without an ID. I work in the communications industry and if someone comes in to open a new pre-paid account, we ask them the information we need for the account, name, address, SS#, DOB, etc...... But unless it is a monthly billed account, we do not need to verify this information. The simply purchase minutes and once those are gone, they either buy more or dont. I work in the billing department and one of my duties is to provide LE with Subpeona information. We require that LE provide very specific information as to what they want. Names, numbers, accounts, records, etc..... We are very careful when it comes to providing this information. It would be very easy for Casey to go into a random store and purchase one of these accounts and no one would ever know, except the store she bought it from.

A few pages back I admitted I was wrong about that....Also posted an Police Officers answer to the question of "are any cell phones truly untraceable" on the same page.

 

[AC]

Just to clarify, you can purchase a SIM without an ID. I work in the communications industry and if someone comes in to open a new pre-paid account, we ask them the information we need for the account, name, address, SS#, DOB, etc...... But unless it is a monthly billed account, we do not need to verify this information. The simply purchase minutes and once those are gone, they either buy more or dont. I work in the billing department and one of my duties is to provide LE with Subpeona information. We require that LE provide very specific information as to what they want. Names, numbers, accounts, records, etc..... We are very careful when it comes to providing this information. It would be very easy for Casey to go into a random store and purchase one of these accounts and no one would ever know, except the store she bought it from.

Thank you! This is what I wanted to know!

 

[ketel0ne]

I seem to ask this everyday but, would you rather have Caylee found and a manslaughter charge, or hold out for a possible murder charge if she is found, or wait out the fact that she may never be found. What do you choose?

 

[panthera]

There was a quick report on Fox that LE was back at the complex inquiring about anyone seeing and knowing Casey yesterday. Nothing else was said about it... so I can't give a reference.

And I think this is a great idea. I heard something about that too, just on a brief report. I don't think anyone there took Caylee and still believe this is just a cover up by Casey, but there has to be a tie between that place and how she knew someone named Zenaida was there on the 17th.

 

[Patty G]

So true but then do you have to discount the 911 calls?

That's the problem here, if we get to one spot, then the 911 calls come in to play. This is one tangled mess.