Caylee Anthony General Discussion Thread #74

[tx_Dot]

I just have a problem with a cooler, bag, or container. It just seems much more "serial killer" to me than a panicked cover up.

Too involved to risky, I feel she just covered her dumped her somewhere and then had to go back and move her to a better hidden and final place.

Wonder if TonE's apt. has underground/shaded parking ??

Sure be nice to know her 'mode' of transportation the 16th to 24th.....

or if anyone recalls seeing her car these days.

 

[kathyn2]

No, George took the cans. When it says 'she's the one that took the can's' George means she was the one that stole them from the shed. Before that he thought they were stolen by someone else. He knew then that she had stolen them. George took the cans from the trunk.

 

[GameTheory]

From ABC Action News last updated 8/7/08

Just what investigators took from the home on Wednesday and Thursday is not known.

Last week, agents took two gas cans from the residence.

On Wednesday, new questions were raised about the gas cans.

George Anthony said on nationwide that his daughter stole two gas cans from the family's shed. He previously had told Orlando TV station WFTV she had not taken them.

He reported the cans stolen to police in late June. But Tuesday on FOX News, George said he learned later that same day that Casey had taken them. He said the discovery came to light when he asked Casey about a tire tool in her car. "She's still telling me, 'I'll get it Dad, I'll get it." George said he told her he was capable of getting it himself. He said when she opened the trunk, "...there were the gas cans. She's the one that took the gas cans."

Casey opened the trunk and George didn't. If he didn't smell the decomposition on June 24th, perhaps he was not close enough to the car.

http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=756ECB71-AE9E-40CC-88AE-5069669817BE

If you see the interview on youtube with Greta, when George talks about this event, you will hear and understand clearly that George was the one who opened the trunk. Not Casey. She was trying to tell him she will do it but George was telling her he was capable of doing it himself and he did it.

 

[RNmomnFL]

Just wanted to post this. I made this today for Caylee and I also posted it on the Happy Birthday Thread. It made me cry and I thought I would share it with others that love her as their own!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoNN2ndl85A

Oh so beautiful. I am so glad you shared that with us. Thanks. Off to cry some more. But before I go back to lurking, I must say I wish we had better news today of all days, on Caylee's birthday. I saw a video on Fox news earlier of George holding up a birthday card someone had made for her and he was very emotional, his voice broke. It's hard to reconcile that (sad) part of him with any suspicion of his helping to cover up evidence of wrong-doing in the Pontiac.

 

[kathyn2]

No, George took the cans. When it says 'she's the one that took the can's' George means she was the one that stole them from the shed. Before that he thought they were stolen by someone else. He knew then that she had stolen them. George took the cans from the trunk.

 

[panthera]

Assuming it happened at the GPs house on the 16th, we have a flurry of calls then, and then a Casey siting backed into the driveway and possibly borrowing a shovel on the 18th accompanied by a flurry of calls again. Did she leave her in the playhouse on the afternoon of the 16th, went to the apartments on the 17th, and came back for her on the 18th. There is a cadaver dog hit in the backyard. I would love to know if they have receipts for her activity on the 17th.

I do think she could've left her in the backyard for a short time, which, imo, would cause the dog to hit on that area. I'm still trying to figure out how the Sawgrass apts. fit into this, like who she knows there and how she picked Zenaida's name.

 

[mkay882]

Assuming it happened at the GPs house on the 16th, we have a flurry of calls then, and then a Casey siting backed into the driveway and possibly borrowing a shovel on the 18th accompanied by a flurry of calls again. Did she leave her in the playhouse on the afternoon of the 16th, went to the apartments on the 17th, and came back for her on the 18th. There is a cadaver dog hit in the backyard. I would love to know if they have receipts for her activity on the 17th.

Have cadaver dogs gone through the (supposed nanny's) Sawgrass apartment?

If it had been empty about 6 months, who's to say Casey didn't know that or use that info to hide Caylee a while?

Does Casey have any friends or acquaintances who worked for the Sawgrass apartments?

 

[shannon718]

GAME:

I read a very interesting article regarding human decomposition recently and had posted it on a thread quite a while back. A few things struck me about the article:

Obviously they stated that human decomposition is one of the most unforgettable and horrible odors ever encountered but also
they said that human decomposition has a way of "clinging to your hair and clothing" after you are exposed to it. Especially fingernails.

This struck me when I read this because:

A) George would have never ever been able to mistake that smell for anything else.
B) Why did Casey leave those pants behind in the backseat. George said they were the same pants she was seen wearing on the 16th of June when she left the house with Caylee. Did the pants smell so badly that she couldn't take them into Tony's house to wash them?

C) Cindy herself said " I washed the pants because they smelled like the car"

"clings to your hair and clothing"

its been bothering me ever since I read it.

 

[shannon718]

If you see the interview on youtube with Greta, when George talks about this event, you will hear and understand clearly that George was the one who opened the trunk. Not Casey. She was trying to tell him she will do it but George was telling her he was capable of doing it himself and he did it.

What he said was that she was "adamant" that he not do it...that she was hesitant of him going into her trunk. (gas cans)

He was obviously suspicious of her and thats why he did it anyway.

 

[RNmomnFL]

Thank you for doing that. Wow...tearjerker!

Agree! Thanks so much for sharing that. I'm so glad to see that video. Sad too, still crying. Also, makes me determined to find that little girl and make whomever is responsible for her disappearance pay.

 

[panthera]

Have cadaver dogs gone through the (supposed nanny's) Sawgrass apartment?

If it had been empty about 6 months, who's to say Casey didn't know that or use that info to hide Caylee a while?

Does Casey have any friends or acquaintances who worked for the Sawgrass apartments?

Wouldn't they have changed the locks after the last tenants moved out? That apt. was also up a steep flight of stairs, so I can't really see Casey carrying Caylee up there. And then there would be the possibility of the mgrs. going in there and finding the body. Too risky, imo.

 

[Themis]

No, George took the cans. When it says 'she's the one that took the can's' George means she was the one that stole them from the shed. Before that he thought they were stolen by someone else. He knew then that she had stolen them. George took the cans from the trunk.

Agreed that Casey stole the gas cans from the shed. However, when Casey came back on the 24th, George wanted to get into the trunk to get a tool to rotate tires on a car. Casey didn't want him to open the trunk. Casey opened the trunk. My point was Casey opened the trunk and we don't know if George lifted the cans out or not. Therefore, George might have been too far away to smell decomposition in the trunk. However, it was reported that Casey was wearing pants when George last saw Casey on the 24th and those pants were recovered in the car when the car with retrieved from the wrecker yard. Cindy washed those pants because they had the same smell as the trunk -- decomposition. Casey's pants, worn on the 24th, had decomposition smell on them. We don't know if the stain, dirt, body fluids and hair were in the trunk when Casey opened the trunk to get the gas cans out on the 24th with her father standing there. We don't know if George smelled the decomposition on the 24th, but he might have.

 

[chevylee]

Weren't there maggots in the trunk? According to Cindy....due to the "pizza"

What I can recall, yes.. Heres a site that explains about life cycle of maggots

http://www.deathonline.net/decomposition/corpse_fauna/flies/life_cycle.htm

Please note - this site contains strong graphic images and descriptions.

That site states what happens with Decomposition of a body.

 

[ShouldBWorking]

I am bawling like a baby!!!

 

[housemouse]

I was "mousing" around and found this.

Check the "Number of Holds" and notice the "Home Confinement" undisclosed, with the number 002 below it.

Can anyone familiar with LE help me understand what this might mean?

http://www.orangecountyfl.net/bailbond/default.asp?BookNumber=08034750&ID=4174378912937

 

[mkay882]

You're probably right about the management...

 

[shannon718]

respectfully snipped
Therefore, George might have been too far away to smell decomposition in the trunk.


You can smell decomposition from pretty far away....and George wouldn't be the only one to smell it on her car if she had been driving around like that. I don't believe the car smelled on the 24th....due to that and that alone.

 

[Patty G]

:waitasec: Suppose something did happen to Caylee on the 16th.

We know Cindy was on vacation, so could Casey have had to wait till they went somewhere in order to move the body?

Even if Cindy and George did the 'staycation' thing, maybe they went somewhere overnight or a full day of shopping ...?

That would explain the decomp in the yard and trunk....Right?

Cindy's vacation ended on June 8th based on her testimony at the bond hearing.

 

[believe09]

I just have a problem with a cooler, bag, or container. It just seems much more "serial killer" to me than a panicked cover up.

Too involved to risky, I feel she just covered her dumped her somewhere and then had to go back and move her to a better hidden and final place.

I understand what you are saying, but not to me-we do not know what was in the car/shed/house that might have worked for a container-once she decided (if she did) that she was going all the way with this action (to prevent the discovery of the death of Caylee) then I think someone of her mindset found some place to put her and she kept her for a while...which means container to me. I would like to think she couldn't let her go-I suspect she just put it out of her mind...and then perhaps Caylee's body began to smell or Casey was kicked out of Tony's apartment or Morales' apartment and she had to figure out her next step....

 

[panthera]

GAME:

I read a very interesting article regarding human decomposition recently and had posted it on a thread quite a while back. A few things struck me about the article:

Obviously they stated that human decomposition is one of the most unforgettable and horrible odors ever encountered but also
they said that human decomposition has a way of "clinging to your hair and clothing" after you are exposed to it. Especially fingernails.

This struck me when I read this because:

A) George would have never ever been able to mistake that smell for anything else.
B) Why did Casey leave those pants behind in the backseat. George said they were the same pants she was seen wearing on the 16th of June when she left the house with Caylee. Did the pants smell so badly that she couldn't take them into Tony's house to wash them?

C) Cindy herself said " I washed the pants because they smelled like the car"

"clings to your hair and clothing"

its been bothering me ever since I read it.

I still can't believe what a great memory George has! he described it as a normal afternoon of Casey taking Caylee out the door as she headed to work so what was so eventful about it that he'd remember what Casey was wearing? It's just weird is all. Now as for Casey, did she forget the pants were in the car? I can't imagine why she wouldn't just throw them away. It's not like she couldn't just use her mother's credit card to go buy another pair.