Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation

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Tim was asked on NG if it was true CA refused to give him an item of Caylee's & he said yes. It is well know 20/20 & others do not pay for interviews but they will pay for "ownership" of photos & videos. Many of the photos you now see say ABC on them, they didn't before.
I have seen the videos of the Anthony's & Caylee. I think Cindy did love her........DID not DOES. I think Cindy & Casey both live in a world where no one from the outside really knows them.......what you see is NOT what you get. IMO she does not believe her daughter & is going thru the motions of being a protective mother bear b/c she thinks that what a good mom does, she wants to appear like she is just this awesome, loving person with this awesome, wonderful, loving, normal family. I think she is going thru the motions because she feels guilt. I think she is going thru the motions in hope the outside world would think they were such a good, loving, God fearing family it HAD to be some body from the outside that took that kid. IMO CIndy is a very cold person with no soul & I think Casey is the carbon copy of her mom. Some people are just evil :furious::behindbar

:applause::applause::applause::applause:

 

[whiteangora]

Okay This family has a proven history of NOT being able to fiscally handle their personal finances - so you want them handling donations from others ? I DONT THINK SO

There are judgements lawsuits and bankrupticies against them - handling
money is not what they are good at ............

There is every reason to believe all of this is an attempt to maintain
a steady income stream or to hide assets - ( beats workin )

If she really wanted to be charitable she would donate the funds
to a already established and reputable charity or foundation - there
are several in existence
But that doesnt provide enough prestige - power - control or soothe
a guilty conscience

You can expect alot more of this attention seeking behavior
by now she is addicted to the drama and without KC providing
it she will create it herself

Cindy has to quiet the voices in her head that only come in the
dark and quiet of the night .

Thank you very much. I still can't understand why there is still naivety regarding these people with all things $$$$$.

 

[tasylshari]

All any of us know at this point is that she registered the name. Do you know that she ISN'T going to have someone else run the foundation? Do you know that it will be set up in a way that allows HER to use the money? Do you know that it will be set up at all? Maybe she just wants to keep someone else from using the name.

Yes, she could do other things to honor Caylee, although I doubt she'd ever be able to afford to afford to built a wing on a hospital ...or she could set up a foundation. :waitasec:

Why don't we wait and see what she's planning before condemning her?

Chilly: with all due respect to you and others (?) that still feel sorry for Cindy, I'll be the first to say that I have ABSOLUTELY (there's everybody's favorite word) no respect for her or anyone in her family, most especially their sociopath daughter that they did NOTHING to treat! The timing for this is incredulous, don't you agree? I believe we have "earned" the right to condemn her! I believe that alot of ws'ers are hurt deeply by the FACT that no one in that family has ever gotten their feet wet to look for Caylee. Selling TV interviews, photos, washing evidence, not calling LE for how many days since you retreived your stolen car that smells of decomp and knowing that you were terrified to find your daughter/gd in the trunk dead, etc., etc., etc.. I will condemn all of them for all that they have done (and not done, like search for Caylee instead of slamming everyone that has been inasmuch as they DON'T want them to find her 'cause that'd be admitting that..... "what have you done?" is really, really, really done). IMO, they've earned this condemnation!

 

[Chilly Willy]

Just look at the track record. Not working, living well. This is the ticket to ride. If it was any other family, there wouldn't be these suspicions.
There must be a reason so many people see the light.

If living well means trying to face the fact that your beloved granddaughter is deceased and that your daughter is a murderer who will, if she's lucky, spend the rest of her life in prison - I'd rather not have that 'ticket to ride."

I don't see where Cindy is living well. Is she spending money like it's going out of style? I know someone complained that she had the nerve to get her hair cut, but other than that what do we know she's spent money on?

 

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Cindy is not named as a party in any lawsuit. What court or judgment is she bypassing by starting a foundation?

It is her homeowners insurance which is being held liable for KC's statements about ZG. They are included in the lawsuit, so it directly affects CA. I do not know if she is personally named, but she may be. I will have to find the filing.

 

[Janis396]

Chilly: with all due respect to you and others (?) that still feel sorry for Cindy, I'll be the first to say that I have ABSOLUTELY (there's everybody's favorite word) no respect for her or anyone in her family, most especially their sociopath daughter that they did NOTHING to treat! The timing for this is incredulous, don't you agree? I believe we have "earned" the right to condemn her! I believe that alot of ws'ers are hurt deeply by the FACT that no one in that family has ever gotten their feet wet to look for Caylee. Selling TV interviews, photos, washing evidence, not calling LE for how many days since you retreived your stolen car that smells of decomp and knowing that you were terrified to find your daughter/gd in the trunk dead, etc., etc., etc.. I will condemn all of them for all that they have done (and not done, like search for Caylee instead of slamming everyone that has been inasmuch as they DON'T want them to find her 'cause that'd be admitting that..... "what have you done?" is really, really, really done). IMO, they've earned this condemnation!

That was awesome, you're my new hero :clap:

 

[Chilly Willy]

Chilly: with all due respect to you and others (?) that still feel sorry for Cindy, I'll be the first to say that I have ABSOLUTELY (there's everybody's favorite word) no respect for her or anyone in her family, most especially their sociopath daughter that they did NOTHING to treat! The timing for this is incredulous, don't you agree? I believe we have "earned" the right to condemn her! I believe that alot of ws'ers are hurt deeply by the FACT that no one in that family has ever gotten their feet wet to look for Caylee. Selling TV interviews, photos, washing evidence, not calling LE for how many days since you retreived your stolen car that smells of decomp and knowing that you were terrified to find your daughter/gd in the trunk dead, etc., etc., etc.. I will condemn all of them for all that they have done (and not done, like search for Caylee instead of slamming everyone that has been inasmuch as they DON'T want them to find her 'cause that'd be admitting that..... "what have you done?" is really, really, really done). IMO, they've earned this condemnation!

The timing is incredulous? When would be a better time?

Cindy phoned 911 the day the car was retrieved.

If you all want to condemn someone for something that has even happened, go for it. It's my opinion that a person should actually commit the crime before serving the sentence.

 

[JBean]

Thank you very much. I still can't understand why there is still naivety regarding these people with all things $$$$$.

You have to understand there are other uses for foundations. One cannot assume that it is being used for something illegal or unethical.
There are foundations that do not rely on donations of others. So to refer to some of us as naive is inaccurate.

 

[Chilly Willy]

It is her homeowners insurance which is being held liable for KC's statements about ZG. They are included in the lawsuit, so it directly affects CA. I do not know if she is personally named, but she may be. I will have to find the filing.

Cindy is not her homeowner's insurance and only Casey is named in the filing. No judge has put a hold on Cindy's finances.

 

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If living well means trying to face the fact that your beloved granddaughter is deceased and that your daughter is a murderer who will, if she's lucky, spend the rest of her life in prison - I'd rather not have that 'ticket to ride."

I don't see where Cindy is living well. Is she spending money like it's going out of style? I know someone complained that she had the nerve to get her hair cut, but other than that what do we know she's spent money on?

People make a judgment call Chilly from people's past records. Cindy's own brother said they were irresponsible with money and they had to file bankruptcy once or maybe twice. (can't remember) He said they lost their house in Ohio to foreclosure.

It is a matter of court record that when this happened their house was almost in foreclosure because Cindy stated it in court. It was also brought out in that hearing that George had some lawsuits in the other courts in Orlando for past due bills.

This is not a shining example of financial soundness. It is more a pattern of financial instability.

 

[Theonly1]

I don't suspect the Anthony's attorney filed for the Fictitious Name or applied for the Corporation based on the messy handwritten application Cindy completed that's on file. Documents sent to the courts by law firms are normally typed out.

Unless someone can lassoe her in and duct tape her mouth shut, I don't think she is capable of following the advice of any professional counselor.

She hasn't hit bottom yet.

It's weird. We do these at work and you can apply for them online now and attach the applicable documents. It's extremely strange to see the handwritten scrawl. That's one reason I think she's doing this without attorney intervention (just my opinion).

 

[Gaia713]

It is her homeowners insurance which is being held liable for KC's statements about ZG. They are included in the lawsuit, so it directly affects CA. I do not know if she is personally named, but she may be. I will have to find the filing.

The filing can also me amended to add Cindy to it. It also can just say etal.

 

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Cindy is not her homeowner's insurance and only Casey is named in the filing. No judge has put a hold on Cindy's finances.

It has not gone to court yet. She could not set up a foundation in KC"s name to help with her defense because when ZG won that lawsuit she could get that in a judgment. That is why I believe it was set up this way.

This is very tricky business, and she needs to have good CPA and legal counsel in this because the Feds are VERY particular how money like that is spent and there is no co-mingling of funds or everyone goes to jail.

I just don't think she knows what she is doing from looking at that filing and she is treading on a very slippery slope.

 

[JBean]

Chilly: with all due respect to you and others (?) that still feel sorry for Cindy, I'll be the first to say that I have ABSOLUTELY (there's everybody's favorite word) no respect for her or anyone in her family, most especially their sociopath daughter that they did NOTHING to treat! The timing for this is incredulous, don't you agree? I believe we have "earned" the right to condemn her! I believe that alot of ws'ers are hurt deeply by the FACT that no one in that family has ever gotten their feet wet to look for Caylee. Selling TV interviews, photos, washing evidence, not calling LE for how many days since you retreived your stolen car that smells of decomp and knowing that you were terrified to find your daughter/gd in the trunk dead, etc., etc., etc.. I will condemn all of them for all that they have done (and not done, like search for Caylee instead of slamming everyone that has been inasmuch as they DON'T want them to find her 'cause that'd be admitting that..... "what have you done?" is really, really, really done). IMO, they've earned this condemnation!

If you look at this topic from a non-emotional view, you would have to agree that at this point there are no facts surrounding this entity to suggest it is improper.
I have no feeling one way or another about this entity. I am just looking at the current information from a factual pov.

 

[Chilly Willy]

People make a judgment call Chilly from people's past records. Cindy's own brother said they were irresponsible with money and they had to file bankruptcy once or maybe twice. (can't remember) He said they lost their house in Ohio to foreclosure.

It is a matter of court record that when this happened their house was almost in foreclosure because Cindy stated it in court. It was also brought out in that hearing that George had some lawsuits in the other courts in Orlando for past due bills.

This is not a shining example of financial soundness. It is more a pattern of financial instability.

Then it might be fair to say that Cindy does not have the ability to run a charitable foundation - assuming that the poster "Rick" is actually Cindy's brother and that he knows what he's talking about. However, since we don't know what Cindy's intentions are or if she plans to run the foundation herself, if at all, isn't it a little earlier to attack her for the way it's being run?

 

[TURBOTHINK]

The filing can also me amended to add Cindy to it. It also can just say etal.

And may already say that. I haven't read it. If they can prove CA anyway assisted in that slander or even spread it to the public, she would be liable too. With her TV appearances I am thinking that is what she is trying to avoid.

 

[LeLe1953]

A (former?) poster here SAYS Cindy accused TES of stealing the money. That doesn't make it true. I don't know who got the money for the videos. 20/20 says they didn't pay for them. The Anthony's attorney says George and Cindy did not get a dime from them. Can you state factually who got the money or even that money was paid?

NO, I can't tell you for sure. I CAN tell you what I do know about interviews & a made for TV movie. Years ago something happened to me which gained national attention d/t the det. in the case. He felt getting it out in the media would help keep me safe. That was very hard for me to do. He set up some interviews via the phone with many news organizations. I, along with him, did many national TV, magazine, news paper articles. I did not recieve money for any of them. I was flown to New York for an article in Vogue, Womens Day, McCalls, Redbook. These were all seperate trips. My expenses were also paid for me to go to Chicago, Miami, Atl & LA as well as other places in Ca. Eye to Eye with Connie Chung came to my then home to do an interview which was national.

It did not take long for a production co to ctc me saying they wanted to do a tv movie in conjuction with NBC & Hallmark. They flew me to Ca to meet with them over several days. They wanted to acquire the rights to my "lifes" story. I only let them acquire the rights to the story that involved the events current to the moment we signed the contract. I knew an arrest was coming & I did not want that or the trial included as I didn't want my movie deal to interfere with the trial. Some money, not a huge amt. is given to you when you "option" the movie rights. The option in my case was good for one yr meaning they had one yr to get the movie under way or they would have to re option it or I could option it else where. As the script was written & the movie went into production I went to CA many more times, met with the script writer, was on the set when movie was filmed. The "big" money that was due me was paid first to the PRODUCTION company & not paid to ME until they had a solid deal with NBC to air it.

So is the money in the bank account right now of the Anthony's, probably not. Do they have the paper saying how much, to whom and when it's to be paid, I am sure they do. I didn't option my photo, I own them, not any studio or magazine. In fact the only ones they ran were the ones they their photographers shoot. That mean the photographer owned them until the magazine bought them.

In the end I had a movie made & watched the prick go to prison. I only did one interview afterwards, that was to local media right after this person was sentenced. I turned down all others, including Oprah as I was ready for it to be over.

 

[Theonly1]

Yes, you can set them up online, BUT>>>>>>>>>they have to be sent to the Secretary of State to be registered prior to any use. There is not one registered that I can find in Florida Sec. of State.

Just because you fill out some documents on line, it does not make you a corporation. It is not a valid corporation until it is filed with the Sec. of State and returned to you, then it is registered in the county court clerks office in your county.

At our office we file our new corporations, foundations, etc. through sunbiz. Off the top of my head it's rather easy work once the client knows what he or she wants. After we set up the corporate documents in house you simply go online and put in the information (in pop up windows) and submit it (with payment). You get the filing information back online and you can pay for certified copies and other things too. I haven't seen a form filled out by hand in years that is why I question the attorney involvement here.

 

[TURBOTHINK]

Then it might be fair to say that Cindy does not have the ability to run a charitable foundation - assuming that the poster "Rick" is actually Cindy's brother and that he knows what he's talking about. However, since we don't know what Cindy's intentions are or if she plans to run the foundation herself, if at all, isn't it a little earlier to attack her for the way it's being run?

I didn't attack her for the way "it was being run." I posted that she did it backwards to the way it SHOULD have been set up and that was most likely why they rejected the application.

 

[Chilly Willy]

It has not gone to court yet. She could not set up a foundation in KC"s name to help with her defense because when ZG won that lawsuit she could get that in a judgment. That is why I believe it was set up this way.

This is very tricky business, and she needs to have good CPA and legal counsel in this because the Feds are VERY particular how money like that is spent and there is no co-mingling of funds or everyone goes to jail.

I just don't think she knows what she is doing from looking at that filing and she is treading on a very slippery slope.

You claimed that she in big trouble. I disagree. She is not a party in a law suit and there is no indication that she's attempting to hide money in a non-existent foundation. A person who is NOT party to a law suit is allowed to do whatever they want with their money, how could she possibly be in trouble?