Chances of a safe return?

  • #21
IMO, the stats for abductions don't apply if this was murder from the get go. Which is sadly what I'm leaning towards. IMO, this is a murder staged to look like an abduction. A missing child does not necessarily equal abduction. ETA: A missing child is often missing because a parent or SO has hidden the childs body.

I'll look around to see if I can find the info. But there was an article about missing kids orgs misusing data. Such as there might be 800K missing kids a year, but most are found within a few hours at a friends house etc. There is a definite problem with missing kids. But sometimes the way the stats are stated makes it sound worse than it is.

JMO of course!


Respectfully bolded by me:

FWIW, I'm leaning in that direction too. So when I look at the numbers on these type of cases where a child is missing or murdered. A significant percentage is assigned to a parent/ primary care giver being involved. Then we look at the age of this victim and it supports those numbers even further.

Although, it is not out of the realm of possibility that is was a stranger abduction, I think that if it was an abduction it more than likely would be a family abduction (again just looking at numbers and percentages).
 
  • #22
Respectfully bolded by me:

FWIW, I'm leaning in that direction too. So when I look at the numbers on these type of cases where a child is missing or murdered. A significant percentage is assigned to a parent/ primary care giver being involved. Then we look at the age of this victim and it supports those numbers even further.

Although, it is not out of the realm of possibility that is was a stranger abduction, I think that if it was an abduction it more than likely would be a family abduction (again just looking at numbers and percentages).

I know if I knew that Misty was somewhere else and not at home, it would make me lean towards an abduction.
 
  • #23
i have a feeling she is still alive, naturally i could be wrong
im praying she's alive...
 
  • #24
It depends on if it was MC or a set up and she's safe somewhere.
 
  • #25
The odds aren't good, but there is always hope - Elizabeth Smart.

I am really worried for this child, but praying for a miracle.

I'm there with you.
 
  • #26
With so many SO, bad people and drugs involved, my hopes are dimming.
I pray that I am wrong.
Haleigh is so fragile with health problems also.
I hope LE investigated the river, RR tracks and family freezers.
IMO
 
  • #27
I hope for a family abduction--and that she is alive.

But I think she was dead before Ron got home from work; I am in the murder-staged-as-abduction camp. I don't think, at this point, that Ron was involved. I do think that Misty was, on some level.
 
  • #28
I cannot even imagine how hard it would be to move on with your life never knowing what happened to your child. I pray that something is found to give the family answers.
 
  • #29
I don't think she will be found alive.
 
  • #30
I can't believe how quickly leads / clues have dried up in her case! I pray she is alive!!!!
 
  • #31
I don't think that LE, FBI, etc. is at an advanced enough state technologically to enter all of this data and extract a read-out of the most predominant scenario. All of the time it takes to deal with the preliminaries unfortunately lends itself to a less than favorable outcome.
 
  • #32
My heart and the facts are sadly how I am feeling....

I hope and pray I am wrong!
 
  • #33
I think she is gone, too much time has elapsed. I pray I am wrong.
 
  • #34
I cannot even imagine how hard it would be to move on with your life never knowing what happened to your child. I pray that something is found to give the family answers.

I can't begin to imagine the pain! I pray no of us ever have to find out.
 
  • #35
I cannot even imagine how hard it would be to move on with your life never knowing what happened to your child. I pray that something is found to give the family answers.

This has got to be the worst thing.
 
  • #36
To answer the question, "Chances...", as has already been quoted, the statistics tell the tale of the chances.

Regardless...I'm going with the starfish principle with Haleigh. Based on LE's behavior, I'm praying she will be the exception...and not the rule. LE is watching someone/something...they are holding their cards very close to the vest. The cancelled pressers are just one more indication...

Praying for Haleigh's safe return...count me in. :thumb:
 
  • #37
It doesn't look good. Going into week 3....
 
  • #38
Just going by what's been reported, the dogs tracking to the edge of the dock and back around the street to the railroad tracks makes me think something very bad happened. There was no reason to take her to the edge of the water, and now Junior says a man in black took Haleigh. Very bad signs IMO.
 
  • #39
Usually in these types of cases, I don't hold out much hope for an abducted child, esp after these many days. But with this case, I'm honestly not getting a strong feeling one way or the other. I do feel that whoever took her knows Ron and/or Misty. I don't really think its a relative though. But I think the whole crew have lied, bio-mom, Ron and Misty.
 
  • #40
I think the chances are very slim, sadly. We all know the stats and this isn't looking good for Haleigh the longer this goes on without any solid leads.

I pray that she is alive, I thought at first that maybe the bio-mom had taken Haleigh to protect her from something and Misty being afraid of Ron went along with it. I now don't know what to believe. I can't seem to get the Original Police Report out of my head. I don't know if it is because I have not found closure with the Caylee case, it just worries me when they mention DNA and Finger Prints and dogs that lead to a pond and back to the house.

The report goes on to say, "It should be noted that (Haleigh's father) said Haleigh's shoes were still inside the residence."

The dogs and officers followed the track to a pond and then circled back near the Cummings' home and then out of the neighborhood to a location very near Haleigh's school bus stop.

The details of the initial investigation recorded by officers have not been commented on by the sheriff. The entire area of the neighborhood within a five-mile radius of Haleigh's home has been searched and searched again.

Dominick Pape, special agent in charge of the Jacksonville office of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, said forensic evidence collected during the investigation such as DNA and fingerprints would be a priority.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/18713359/detail.html
 

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