Cheryl Dunlap Murder-Evidence Connected To GHM

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I have been mostly lurking on this discussion for quite some time. I do have something to add but understand that I am not going into detail for several reasons. First of all, I knew GMH from age 14 - 17 in Miami Florida. I went to school with him. He attended Miami Springs Junior High School in 9th grade and then entered Hialeah High School in 10th grade. He dropped out of school in either his junior or senior year in high school to join the army. The last time I saw him in person was either 1963 or 1964 when he stopped by the high school I attended and told me he was joining the army. When I knew him he lived in Hialeah with his mother and step father. Hialeah is a large suburban city within Metropolitan Miami area. The incident referred to at age 14 was a domestic disturbance between him,his mother and step father. His step father was shot during the disturbance. His step father lived, it was a juvenile court issue, no charges were filed to my knowledge.

He called me in 1982 when I was living in another state. He had gotten my phone number from a family member in Miami by telling them he was someone else, representing a fictitious company and needed to get in touch with me. We spoke briefly and I hung up on him because he seemed to be talking very strangely. I had no contact with him after that.

I have been contacted by the Public Defenders office in Tallahassee, therefore I do not intend to say anything in detail here that could possibly affect any potential testimony I might have to give at a later date.

Scarrgot, welcome to the forum and thank you very much for sharing this experience on this forum.
I am sure that this has been very traumatic for you.
Best wishes for you and your family.
 
Scarrgot, for verification, is this you?

Leonard dino sclafani Says:
June 1st, 2009 at 4:25 pm

i was a friend of Gary Hilton 50 years ago in Hialeah Florida when we were in junior high school together, he said i was his only friend almost,and told me a few things that were sort of strange and i never forgot them or him 50 years later,till his defense attorney contacted me yesterday and asked if we could talk,what she said shocked me ,the way he changed and what he had done ,im sorry i couldn’t have changed his life somehow or other.he was a quiet guy,we would swim in the Miami river together ,from his back porch,it was a good time then.dino in sunny miami out.http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1553
 
I have been mostly lurking on this discussion for quite some time. I do have something to add but understand that I am not going into detail for several reasons. First of all, I knew GMH from age 14 - 17 in Miami Florida. I went to school with him. He attended Miami Springs Junior High School in 9th grade and then entered Hialeah High School in 10th grade. He dropped out of school in either his junior or senior year in high school to join the army. The last time I saw him in person was either 1963 or 1964 when he stopped by the high school I attended and told me he was joining the army. When I knew him he lived in Hialeah with his mother and step father. Hialeah is a large suburban city within Metropolitan Miami area. The incident referred to at age 14 was a domestic disturbance between him,his mother and step father. His step father was shot during the disturbance. His step father lived, it was a juvenile court issue, no charges were filed to my knowledge.

He called me in 1982 when I was living in another state. He had gotten my phone number from a family member in Miami by telling them he was someone else, representing a fictitious company and needed to get in touch with me. We spoke briefly and I hung up on him because he seemed to be talking very strangely. I had no contact with him after that.

I have been contacted by the Public Defenders office in Tallahassee, therefore I do not intend to say anything in detail here that could possibly affect any potential testimony I might have to give at a later date.

me 2, tks for dropping in and sharing what you could. I have a ques and if you can't ans I understand. I've tried looking around at other family of his, specifically his mom and I keep running into what appear to be German last names. Did Hilton seem to have an affinity for German heritage, or did he have German in his background from one of his grandparents? Was that step father German that he had the episode with?
Thanks again.
 
Don't know if he was obligated or not, but after talking to the investigator from the public defenders office, Leon County, Fl. I was struck by the fact that I was asked whether I thought that GMH actually murdered over 150 victims. This told me that he hasn't been totally honest with them.
When GMHs defense Attorney had his first interview with him after the abduction, torture, rape, murder, mutilation, and decapitation of Meredith Hope Emerson. He came out of the room shaking his head, white as a ghost, and mumbling to himself; I have never heard anything as gruesome and gory in all my life! His attorney, an experienced Attorney, has dealt with many evil criminals over his career, but none that came close to GMH's evil...

what are the odds this will delay setting a date...again?
 
Is it the State that has to produce the stuff at Discovery? Or do the defense have to share with the State what they know?
 
what are the odds this will delay setting a date...again?

The discovery of new evidence caused, or was conveinietly used as the excuse for the last delay in setting a trial date in Gary M Hilton's DP Trial.

The murderers of Rachael Hoffman, recently had their DP trial date set recently in Leon Co, Fl. The trial wil be after October 2010. Sounds a little vague as far as a firm date.

yanceyb, guess we will know the answer Friday afternoon since the hearing is scheduled at 10: AM 09/25/09.
 
Are IRS records of Hilton and Tabor public record? Can we fill out forms to get copies?

Can we access any military records on Hilton from when he enlisted? Who in the world passed his psychological? Love to know that. We have somebody mentioning he was not sounding right - and yet the military takes him.

And to bring this up again -- Wolfscratch, where are you getting the IQ numbers? Here is a childhood friend who is telling us that he quit high school to join the Army. So when did he take these IQ tests I wonder.

Did he have health insurance - was he self-pay - that doctor who is mentioned that gave him drugs - how was Hilton paying for the drugs and visits I wonder? Was this a doctor associated with the VA? I sure wish we could learn more on that angle. I keep wondering where was he getting funds to do his lifestyle. I know we have Tabor supposedly giving him thousands during a year, but there's still gas, upkeep, tires, insurance, tires, and doctor bills, medications. I don't think he's getting that out of ATMs. His gas bill had to be horrendous.
 
I wonder if Tabor's credit cards have been looked over carefully to see if Hilton had one to use for gas - it would have been a business write-off for Tabor in his business, right? And why would Hilton need a dolly? If one can show that Hilton didn't do any work for the years that Tabor was providing things for a business write-off wouldn't that be a crime?

I sure hope they show the locations of those "motor vehicle queries" so we can know what place he was in that was causing LE to run his tag.
 
oh yeah, one more ques - has anybody seen if Hilton was on Social Security Disability? Was he getting a check? Wouldn't it be a hoot if they get him on tax and fraud if they can't get him on murder. And others.

Here's a theory I have. I think Hilton brought a delivery to Tallahassee Nov 30. Cheryl was abducted Dec 1. Was Cheryl anywhere that Hilton may have seen her that evening of Nov 30 and said "I could do some work on your house for you."
 
Why don't you think he'll ever get tried in Leon? What has Lucas got to do w/Leon? I know he was in Leon but what's Lucas got to do with it?

Henry Lee Lucas (August 23, 1936[1] – March 13, 2001[2]) was an American criminal, convicted of murder and once listed as America's most prolific serial killer; he later recanted his confessions, and flatly stated "I am not a serial killer" in a letter to researcher Patrick Poff.[3]

Lucas confessed to involvement in about 600 murders, with an average of about one murder per week between his release from prison in mid-1975 to his arrest in mid-1983.



Snipets from: [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Lee_Lucas[/ame]



Lucas's sentence was commuted to life in prison in 1998 by then-Governor George W. Bush, it was the only commutation in Bush's entire history as Governor of Texas. Lucas died in prison of natural causes. Because Lucas's death removed the possibility of resolution in many instances, a number of questions remain unresolved.
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Henry Lucas had a sidekick: Otis Toole: Serial Killer and abductor and murderer of Adam Walsh.



Wolfscratch
 
I still don't understand what that sentence being commuted has to do with Hilton not going to trial?

I do see any trial he would have would be hung up in the next court after Leon County, tho, because they practice such slouchy law in Leon County, that it's usually overturned in Appeals Court. That's a known and written about fact.
 
I still don't understand what that sentence being commuted has to do with Hilton not going to trial?

I do see any trial he would have would be hung up in the next court after Leon County, tho, because they practice such slouchy law in Leon County, that it's usually overturned in Appeals Court. That's a known and written about fact.

yanceyb, Lucas's sentence was commuted due to the magnitude and duration of his 'trail of terror', Victim Total.

I am confident that the Feds are negotiating with GMH, to reveal the identity, number, and location of the remains of his many, many victims.

I come to this conclusion due to the Silence by the Justice System, the media(local & National), the sealing of the evidence, the many unexplained hearings being delayed, the fact that he is presently serving a Life Sentence in GA, for the tragic abduction, rape, torture, mutilation, decapitation, and murder of Meredith Hope Emerson, his age, life expectancy, health, and the magnitude and duration of his 'trail of terror'....Victim Total...both deceased and wrongly suspected, indicted, convicted, and incarcerated for GMH's evil deeds..

Wolfscratch
 
Why is it that every time a question is answered, it seems that a dozen more appear?
 
Was the shooting of GMH's stepfather during the domestc dispute at the age of 14 years old the trigger or beginning of GMH's Trail of Terror, as he claims? Guess the first time is always the hardest and once that threshold is broken, if pleasure is realized from the experience, escalation would be imminent. Did he enjoy, inflicting violence, destroying, or controlling the destiny of others?

GMH, went on to receive Military Special Forces tactics, training, and discipline. He learned strategies and procedures from his law enforcement trained spouse later, reading, honing his skills while increasing his victim total, until his evil deeds became second nature. As he escalated, perfecting his stalking or hunting skills, discipline, strategies and techniques, the nature of his inflicted violence became up close and personal. Seems that he morphed into a Stealth Predator, confusing VICAP and the expert profillers of the FBI BAU, as well as Local and State Law Enforcement Agencies for decades, 47 years according to him.
 
Was the shooting of GMH's stepfather during the domestc dispute at the age of 14 years old the trigger or beginning of GMH's Trail of Terror, as he claims? Guess the first time is always the hardest and once that threshold is broken, if pleasure is realized from the experience, escalation would be imminent. Did he enjoy, inflicting violence, destroying, or controlling the destiny of others?

GMH, went on to receive Military Special Forces tactics, training, and discipline. He learned strategies and procedures from his law enforcement trained spouse later, reading, honing his skills while increasing his victim total, until his evil deeds became second nature. As he escalated, perfecting his stalking or hunting skills, discipline, strategies and techniques, the nature of his inflicted violence became up close and personal. Seems that he morphed into a Stealth Predator, confusing VICAP and the expert profillers of the FBI BAU, as well as Local and State Law Enforcement Agencies for decades, 47 years according to him.

That's your interpretation of what you've observed, right?

I'm a military brat and got to see a lot and know a lot in my growing up years. And I knew the enlisted guys like Hilton would have been. I don't see the military doing that much with him in that department. My dad held top secret clearance, was an officer, and the whole 9 yards. I watched war games from our home in the islands back in the 50s. I pretty much saw it all and was exposed to it all from my youth to my teens when I thought I wanted to fall for an airman or whatever, LOL. My dad would have had a cow. But what he didn't know, ho ho ho. But I did know the airmen as a teen on the bases we lived on. I rode all through the secure areas on my bike and knew some bases inside and out, often going to the perimeter road to watch them burn the fuel oil in the pits in the afternoon....that we now know contaminated drinking water forever! I just don't see Hilton getting that from any training he would have been exposed to. Especially since he went in with no high school diploma. And was not career military.



I'm not getting what you are getting exactly.

I did wonder out loud and was hoping you would elucidate on it, about if he was cannabilizing, where are the bones? If these dens were his "safe caves" where are the bones? Did you notice great caches of bones?
And if the Densmore house was only 200 yards from your home, how often did you notice activity there and over how long of a time. Just wondering.
 
tallahassee.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080930/NEWS01/809300367/-1/ARCHIVE


Meanwhile, Ormond Beach police are investigating Hilton for the death of a man whose decapitated, dismembered body was found in several trash bags under the Tokoma River Bridge, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported Friday. The body of Michael Scot Louis, 27, of South Daytona, was found Dec. 6.

“There are serial killers amongst us; they are potentially everywhere,” said Tom Blomberg, dean of FSU’s School of Criminology, noting that 600,000 people are released each year from state and federal prisons, many without receiving meaningful treatment or education. “It was horrific luck (Dunlap) had that morning.”

“We don’t really know what makes these people what they are,” he said.

Some point to early childhood experiences, an innate predisposition or a combination of both. In either case, serial killers, as Hilton may turn out to be, don’t all look the part. Notorious serial killer Ted Bundy, who was on his murderous spree here when Blomberg was teaching at FSU, didn’t appear scary at all.

“He was a very normal, clean-cut sort of guy,” Blomberg said. “The look is not the issue.”

Typically, though there is a persistence of criminal behavior throughout their lives.

“He didn’t just start this at 61,” Blomberg said. “He’s been pursuing his craft for a long time.”
He expects the number of unsolved-murder cases linked to Hilton will increase.

“Those three or four cases, that is probably not the full story,” he said. “I bet a lot more will unfold before this is over.”
• Contact reporter Julian Pecquet at (850) 599-2307 or [email protected]. Staff writers Nic Corbett and Jennifer Portman contributed to this report.
 
Sorry I haven't been able to be on line to answer your questions.

To wolfscratch: No I am not Leonard. I don't know him but I suspect he did know GMH since he described where he lived in Hialeah by describing swimming in the river.

To YancyB: No, his stepfather was hispanic origin. I don't recall any German connection.
 
That's your interpretation of what you've observed, right?

I'm a military brat and got to see a lot and know a lot in my growing up years. And I knew the enlisted guys like Hilton would have been. I don't see the military doing that much with him in that department. My dad held top secret clearance, was an officer, and the whole 9 yards. I watched war games from our home in the islands back in the 50s. I pretty much saw it all and was exposed to it all from my youth to my teens when I thought I wanted to fall for an airman or whatever, LOL. My dad would have had a cow. But what he didn't know, ho ho ho. But I did know the airmen as a teen on the bases we lived on. I rode all through the secure areas on my bike and knew some bases inside and out, often going to the perimeter road to watch them burn the fuel oil in the pits in the afternoon....that we now know contaminated drinking water forever! I just don't see Hilton getting that from any training he would have been exposed to. Especially since he went in with no high school diploma. And was not career military.



I'm not getting what you are getting exactly.

I did wonder out loud and was hoping you would elucidate on it, about if he was cannabilizing, where are the bones? If these dens were his "safe caves" where are the bones? Did you notice great caches of bones?
And if the Densmore house was only 200 yards from your home, how often did you notice activity there and over how long of a time. Just wondering.

yanceyb, GMH, was in the Army, as in
'ground pounder'(no planes except to drop you in the middle of a jungle or combat zone), up close and personal...I was also in the Army and was Infantry trained. Guess you could say that I won the lottery; 'the draft lottery.'
The training is a combination of survival, weapons, tactics, strategies. training and other skills to perfect a soldier's killing ability.

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Within 4 days of backtracking GMH, it was obvious to me that he was cannibal. This conclusion was derived from several factors and verified by LE and observing the autopsy of one of his victims, which was later removed from public access.
This had a bearing on why GMH, had no victim profile..
 
Jeffrey Dahmer was a cannibal, and HE had a public profile. Here is my opinion ( and thanks, Yancey for the military info)

-GMH killed maybe 10 people, at most.

-He is not as smart as he thinks he is.

-He is crazier than he realizes.

-The reason why his ex-wives and gf's do not want to talk is shame. Shame for being mixed up with a crazy deadbeat who is reported to be very disgusting and unwashed in recent years. To smell really bad....who wants to admit to marrying or dating such a creep?

No mystery here, nothing occult, just a perp who perhaps at one time was just a little odd, and morphed into a disgusting and twisted killer. Mastermind......NOT.
 
Why is it that every time a question is answered, it seems that a dozen more appear?

Scarrgot, for verification, is this you?

Leonard dino sclafani Says:
June 1st, 2009 at 4:25 pm

i was a friend of Gary Hilton 50 years ago in Hialeah Florida when we were in junior high school together, he said i was his only friend almost,and told me a few things that were sort of strange and i never forgot them or him 50 years later,till his defense attorney contacted me yesterday and asked if we could talk,what she said shocked me ,the way he changed and what he had done ,im sorry i couldn’t have changed his life somehow or other.he was a quiet guy,we would swim in the Miami river together ,from his back porch,it was a good time then.dino in sunny miami out.http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1553

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I guess Dino, did say that he was almost GMH's only friend. As in my previous comment; everytime one question is answered(since I was 14 years old), a dozen more questions appear..

Scarrgot, sure wish you could elaborate on the crazy way GMH, was talking when he called you in 1982 as well as the approximate date of the call.

I too was contacted by GMH's defense team and informed that they had a file on me and that they monitored my blog. I don't feel that I will be called to testify in a virtual trial though...
 
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