Cindy Anthony subpoenaed to appear in court

[RainyGirl]

BTW, sort of off topic but I've been thinking about it while reading this thread. I doubt KC knew that when she said Caylee had been kidnapped that it would then start to involve the FBI.

Also, I think it's time to stop referring to KC as ICA. On Thursday that might stop being a differentiating factor between Cindy and KC. JMO

LOL I think I love you Steely Dan! :innocent:
One thing that comes to mind is to utilize "ICA" as Inmate Casey Anthony and
"SICA" as Senior Inmate Cindy Anthony. Just a thought. Plus I kinda like SICA......sounds like SICK. JMO and pardon the OT. I look forward to everyone's insightful commentary next week. BTW.....any more thoughts on LEE'S testimony??? I'm curious as to what folks are thinking. I'm thoroughly undecided here!

 

[RR0004]

I hate to wish life away...but Thursday can't come soon enough!

 

[The World According]

If you read Mrs. Drane-Burdick's motion she is not focused on any excited utterance. Indeed some parts of the call ( Cindy's) can be redacted and she will still get what she wants out of the call. Check this out:

"These fabrications demonstrate consciousness of guilt on the part of the defendant …" Read the document:

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23858915/detail.html
www.orlandosentinel.com

Prosecutors in the Casey Anthony case filed a document Wednesday laying out arguments for letting jurors hear 911 calls made at the very start of the child murder case in July 2008.
But in Monday's nine-page filing, Assistant State Attorney Linda Drane Burdick argues that the 911 calls made by Cindy Anthony, the defendant's mother, should be heard. The prosecutor contends that the calls help show the progression of stories Casey Anthony told to explain the disappearance of her daughter Caylee Marie.

By the third call, Cindy Anthony is crying. "I found out my granddaughter has been taken," she tells the dispatcher. "She has been missing for a month. Her, her mother finally admitted that she's been missing."
Later in that call, she says, "There's something wrong. I found my daughter's car today and it smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car."

The calls show how "the defendant 'created' the kidnapping story after denying there was any problem locating Caylee Marie Anthony," Burdick states. "These fabrications demonstrate consciousness of guilt on the part of the defendant …"

 

[RainyGirl]

I know the Caylee buttons were worn in court by the A's (disgusting as far as I am concerned), but I would ask the clerks office if wearing anything other, such as tee shirts with "I am here for Caylee" would be allowed by HHJP. Some judges are picky about this. If the court does allow I would, but also realize it opens one up to questioning as someone else pointed out earlier. As most know here, I am not opposed to stating my opinions in public.

In my work as a Victim's Advocate (primarily for rape cases and cases involving minor children/Casa-type situations), I wear a special pin the size of a quarter on my blouse or suit jacket. It is very modest, understated and simply says "Victims need a voice". I have never had a judge disallow it in court (even superior and state court). Just FYI.....

 

[beach]

We already know what their neighbors think of them-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSBGyYFwtTk

CA is the bi*** from hell according to them :innocent:

Thanks ZsaZsa!

LMAO! It has been a long time since I have listened to that interview and it never fails to crack me up! :rolling:

 

[Lanie]

Reading this, I'm kind of confused...

You see, I'm operating under the theory, that once CA and GA realized what ICA had done, they decided to make sure that no matter what was said, or what was done they were going to make sure....

Ready?

Wait for it....

That ICA was convicted, and would never come home to threaten their family again.

I firmly believe that they have done everything in their power to make sure that she is convicted in the "court of public opinion" and in a "court of law"

<no cherries in the rotten fruit throwing...I'm allergic to cherries>

I think this same thing quite often, so I'll duck along with you.

But then, sigh, I go back and look at the lies that were told by the 'rents before Caylee was killed.

I mean, seriously, what kind of an RN mother looks at her daughter's expanding abdomen, believes it is not a pregnancy, and does not insist daughter is checked out for at least a tumor?

But then again, sigh, is this not the worst case of 'defending' someone you have ever seen?

Lol, after all this buildup we have done on ourselves, Cindy will probably be put on the stand, asked a couple of 'yes or no' questions, and then be off the stand, with no dramatics whatsoever...

:rolling::rolling::rolling::rolling::rolling::rolling::rolling::rolling:

JK, sometimes I crack myself up!

 

[RainyGirl]

NTS, the excited utterance is not the only reason Prosecutors are seeking to get the 911 calls admitted.

One major theme of the State's case is to demonstrate to the jury the progression of the defendants lies about the fate of her daughter. It is essential to demonstrating that progression to show those events that led to the evolution of the "Zenaida Gonzales story and the lengths to which the Defendant would go in maintaining her various initial versions

skip..

These fabrications demonstrate consciousness of guilt on the part of the defendant, guilt being the ultimate material issue

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23858915/detail.html

I'm not trying to be snarky, but it seems as though like the defense, you also don't fully understand the State's argument. If I am wrong about this thenm I apologize

((bump)) as a good reminder for all. Particularly the underlined portions (by me).

 

[countzero]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfYP30PJufA&NR=1

Cindy's interview with the FBI, July 30, in which she's wearing the same clothes she wore in the police interview (and I don't know the date on those, anybody?), right about the 8:50 mark she is talking about how she'd stick a dagger in her heart if somebody said they'd return Caylee, and how Casey is exactly like her and she would do the same. She is telling the FBI that she hopes they get a chance to see the jailhouse video where she asks Cindy asks Casey what is she protecting the family from and she says, "It's not emotional, mom, it's physical." And there's she's quoting Casey and saying she has to believe that someone is physically threatening them.

Lie.

Flat out lie.

In that video, Casey IS questioned by Cindy "what are you protecting us from?" and Casey rubs her eyes with her hand and says "Mom, let's just leave it at that", and Cindy says "Ok".

Casey never actually said they were being physically threatened. She skirted the question altogether because she didn't have a quick enough answer.

I really would like to go through all her police interviews and count the lies. Who wants to bet on how many jelly beans are in the jelly bean jar?

rbbm:

Least we not forget the other big lie (well among all the others when her lips move). I remember the media interviews where CA and GA spouted that they had the "kidnapper" under surveillance .... yep they sure did ..... in a jail cell, by herself, writing notes to her new friends. Sheeze ..... we could have told them this.

 

[akashana]

ya know a lot has gone down since that memorial....I'm wondering if the allegations of molestation will prompt some honesty??? I also had a thought that perhaps this was the reason for his loyality towards kc and all her lies and such????? she had to have something over him--remember all the rumors and such about him being the father of kc--they had to come from somewhere.....so perhaps that was the "family secret"?????? Something is up with him...also recall him telling tonE about her lies and that he could never figure them out as to why she lied and what she lied about

MY BOLD

I don't mean to be confrontational, but feel compelled to point out that when you are dealing with a sociopath and a pathological liar, there definitely does not have to be any factual basis for lies that are told or slanderous accusations that are made. They are the products of a deeply disturbed mind in a person without conscience or the ability to feel remorse. While we may never know for certain whether or not KC was ever abused sexually by her brother or anyone else, just because she alleges it certainly does not make it so.

 

[RainyGirl]

IMO, the jury that is eventually seated for Casey's trial is simply NOT going to "buy" what Cindy is desperately trying to "sell" with her 911 excuses. No way. No how.
I have a very strong feeling the defense is going to try like crazy to get a certain type of juror on the panel. I've witnessed it before!!---> The defense wants to get citizens who harbor ANTI-Law Enforcement feelings and who have their own "bone to pick" with Prosecutors, legal investigators, FBI, Sherriff's, etc. Maybe someone who felt their loved one was "wrongly accused" or even injured or killed by a member of LE. The sentiments of these potential jurors may not be "overt" (after all, they want to get on that jury and "fight for poor Casey"--gag), but under the surface....that BIAS (and even thoughts of LE "conspiracy theories") are THERE. A strong Judge (like HHJP) and an experienced Prosecutorial team (like Ashton and Drane-Burdick) are going to ferret out these types of "anti-LE" jurors and make sure they are not on the jury. IMO, it would be that type of "anti-LE" person that would be the type to believe Cindy Anthony (and the defense) "hook, line and sinker". Thankfully, we will most likely get a rational, reasonable pool of jurors!!!

JMO.....

 

[Nore]

I hate to wish life away...but Thursday can't come soon enough!

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RR you are wishing life away,with each trial i hope I
will live long enough to see the end.:floorlaugh:

 

[Cat13067]

ITA with your post.

CA also said during one of her rants to the media that maybe someone put a body in the car after if was towed to the towyard. Following her logic, someone got into a locked car, planted a dead body, then retrieved the body before the towyard notified them to pick up the car. Now that's a believable story----not. Everybody's out to get Casey, even those pesky body snatchers.

GA also ranted to the media that the body in the car was not his granddaughter. Okaaayyy...so whose body was it George?

This entire case is built upon common sense and evidence. Cindy can't spin her web of lies out of this one in order for her sweetheart to come home.

IMO

So GA, and CA are admitting that there was a body in the car then. Those statements prove to me there was no mistake when both GA, and CA said, the car smelled like decomposition. They both acknowledge there was a dead body in the trunk of KC's car.

 

[chefmom]

ITA with your post.

CA also said during one of her rants to the media that maybe someone put a body in the car after if was towed to the towyard. Following her logic, someone got into a locked car, planted a dead body, then retrieved the body before the towyard notified them to pick up the car. Now that's a believable story----not. Everybody's out to get Casey, even those pesky body snatchers.

GA also ranted to the media that the body in the car was not his granddaughter. Okaaayyy...so whose body was it George?

This entire case is built upon common sense and evidence. Cindy can't spin her web of lies out of this one in order for her sweetheart to come home.

IMO

BBM

And the bolded above goes hand in hand with her statement in the Morgan depo when JM is asking her about KC saying that she felt Caylee was close and CA said that somebody probably heard her say that and moved Caylee's body there after the fact because it wasn't there in November when she sent DC out there. She will be made a fool of if she tries to keep up this charade at the trial. JMO

 

[Cat13067]

I agree w/your post. I think Casey's demeanor on the 911 calls is really going to hurt Casey. Dateline NBC profiled a case on their show last night where a father was convicted of murdering one of his daughters. A part of the prosecution's case was the father's call to 911 and his demeanor on that phone call. He was calm and not the least bit upset. Casey's demeanor during the 911 calls are going to be very damaging to her defense.

I watched that program last night also, and I heard the calmness in the father's voice when he was reporting his daughter's death to the 911 operator. There were two men on trial for this crime, the father, and a man who lived a few blocks away. The DNA of the neighbor was found on the 12 year old girl, so it was clear he was the one who broke into the home, and murdered this girl. The father was beaten down by LE, and finally wrote a confession that he killed his daughter. He felt maybe in the middle of the night he got up, and murdered her. LE gave the father a poly, and the father passed the poly that he did not kill his daughter, but it was not admissable in trial. The verdict in the case was guilty for both the father, and the nieghbor. The jurors felt the 911 call played a major part in the gullty verdict. The two jurors felt the father should have been screaming I woke up, and found my daughter dead. Instead the father was almost creepy calm about reporting his daughter death. They both received life sentences for the girl's death. The father is currently going through the appeal process.

 

[Gnatcatcher]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7P7bqcJ0W8&NR=1[/ame]

The first two minutes, particularly 1:20, and then right about 3:20, the state's argument comes into play. Cindy spells it out right there, that until that third 911 call, Casey maintained Caylee was fine with the babysitter. It's right there.

 

[chefmom]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7P7bqcJ0W8&NR=1

The first two minutes, particularly 1:20, and then right about 3:20, the state's argument comes into play. Cindy spells it out right there, that until that third 911 call, Casey maintained Caylee was fine with the babysitter. It's right there.

Omg! The officers who took her statements deserve a medal for sitting there listening to her praddle on and on and on and not pulling out their weapons!

ut em up:

 

[Gnatcatcher]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1sWCtTSbtE&NR=1[/ame]

6:31

"There is a reason now why, now it is an urgent thing, the car had something to do with Caylee not being here, and that's why I said, and the car smelled like a damn dead body or whatever I said on it, because it DID smell bad you know did I.. that's my initial reaction, right, and again, that was my husband's initial reaction as well before I opened the car door, I mean the trunk, the trunk, the trunk, his initial reaction was I don't know if I'm gonna find Casey in there or find Caylee in there or what, he didn't know, or whatever, noone knew ... I mean, if it was me, I would have run that car off a cliff somewhere, or in a river somewhere or off into another county ..."

wow. good times.

 

[RR0004]

In my work as a Victim's Advocate (primarily for rape cases and cases involving minor children/Casa-type situations), I wear a special pin the size of a quarter on my blouse or suit jacket. It is very modest, understated and simply says "Victims need a voice". I have never had a judge disallow it in court (even superior and state court). Just FYI.....

I love the idea of a pin...or small button.

 

[RR0004]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7P7bqcJ0W8&NR=1

The first two minutes, particularly 1:20, and then right about 3:20, the state's argument comes into play. Cindy spells it out right there, that until that third 911 call, Casey maintained Caylee was fine with the babysitter. It's right there.

Who needs the excited utterance about the dead body when you got this?!

 

[RR0004]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1sWCtTSbtE&NR=1

6:31

"There is a reason now why, now it is an urgent thing, the car had something to do with Caylee not being here, and that's why I said, and the car smelled like a damn dead body or whatever I said on it, because it DID smell bad you know did I.. that's my initial reaction, right, and again, that was my husband's initial reaction as well before I opened the car door, I mean the trunk, the trunk, the trunk, his initial reaction was I don't know if I'm gonna find Casey in there or find Caylee in there or what, he didn't know, or whatever, noone knew ... I mean, if it was me, I would have run that car off a cliff somewhere, or in a river somewhere or off into another county ..."

wow. good times.

...and the presence of the car seat...that must have been a punch to the gut.