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This link did not work for me. Can anyone else open it? Does it confirm Karen Skinner was located?
Australia Claremont Serial Killer, 1996 - 1997, Perth, Western Australia - #3
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This link did not work for me. Can anyone else open it? Does it confirm Karen Skinner was located?
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go to internet search' info.com.au type in' karen skinner missing' then go in to 'aged march 2010' this is the only thing i can find which states she has been located it is a gov missing person web site so i wouid have to say she isnt missing
regarding method off abduction one only has to look to adrian bayley ,jill meaghers killer, he stalked overpowered and strangled her at 2.00 am in the heart of a major city she was then bundled in to the boot and disposed off not far of the side off a country road. she had been walking home from a night out with friends.i think the csk probably used the same method but headed for the cemetery may be the cemetery is the signature p.s emotions in check
regarding method off abduction one only has to look to adrian bayley ,jill meaghers killer, he stalked overpowered and strangled her at 2.00 am in the heart of a major city she was then bundled in to the boot and disposed off not far of the side off a country road. she had been walking home from a night out with friends.i think the csk probably used the same method but headed for the cemetery may be the cemetery is the signature p.s emotions in check
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what is the printing ink thing?
It sounds like the easiest way to abduct someone is to wait for them in a secluded area, with a car nearby, be a big strong powerful person, and use a form or technique to subdue your victim in a blitz attack before bungling them into your car and taking them to your kill spot. I wonder if Karrakatta was the kill spot, he took his victims to the cemetery and raped them and killed them. Could he have raped Sarah Spiers and then killed her by Strangulation? It would make sense if you you didn't want to leave a large trace of clues. The Cemetery has people everywhere during the day so any DNA evidence would probably be lost in the myriad of tombstones and also in the swarm of human DNA that the place would have throughout the day.
He may have escalated from rape to rape and killing, and then after that to just killing for the last two victims (That is assuming they weren't raped, is their any proof they weren't?). That maybe why Sarah Spiers was hidden which would explain why the other two victims were just dumped near the roadside. Maybe after he had killed he thought he didn't have the same need to rape his victims anymore and decided to just kill the last two
There are probably links to at least 2-3 other abduction attempts/assaults in that area of Perth at that time. It is amazing that the WA Police didn't realise there was a serial rapist at large (Or multiple rapists) in the Claremont / Western Suburbs during such a small period of time. It is baffling. Even an FBI Agent made the link near the beginning of the case. Quite incredible when you look back on the case. If the other cases weren't CSK related then this part of Perth was a haven for rapists.
You have to look at the liklihood of each scenario.
The Taxi scenario where a fake Taxi picks the girls up is plausible, it would take an incredible amount of planning, would risk being sighted by other pedestrians etc so its likely you would not use this scenario. Not ruling it out. But you still would have to subdue your victims somehow (Which is still possible ofcourse),
Being a fake cop in a fake cop car (Which was originally rumoured I believe before the whole Taxi thing?) Is unlikely too, but still possible. It would again take alot of meticulous planning, their would be risks of sighting etc as these cars stand out. However still not ruling it out.
When you think of a blitz attack it seems highly likely that this would be his preferred method. If the girls were able to scream its still pretty secluded so the sounds really late at night could be mistook for party goers being roudy in a nightspot. He would probably only leave his victims capable of letting out a tiny scream before being swift away in his 'blitz attack'.
This also leaves the whole blitz attack wide open for potential suspects. Someone like MysteryMan could be capable of a 'blitz attack' you would think. If the Martial Arts Expert is involved you would definitely think a Blitz attack would be a cake walk, especially given his age at the time which is his physical prime. There are other suspects, if a rope or cable was used to subdue or choke them initially then it could be any Male of any physical size really who would be capable of carrying out this attack. The victims were easy targets, soft targets.
With what we know now, and if the articles are now correct, then its likely this was a blitz attack. Not sure where the Ink articles fall into this, I wonder if the ink is found on any victims? or at the drop zones?
Amazing how many sinister people there were in WA at the time. From Clare, to Dixie, Morey, Wark, The Serial Rapist, Dorrough etc... was a magnet for sinister behaviour.
He may have escalated from rape to rape and killing, and then after that to just killing for the last two victims (That is assuming they weren't raped, is their any proof they weren't?). That maybe why Sarah Spiers was hidden which would explain why the other two victims were just dumped near the roadside. Maybe after he had killed he thought he didn't have the same need to rape his victims anymore and decided to just kill the last two
There are probably links to at least 2-3 other abduction attempts/assaults in that area of Perth at that time. It is amazing that the WA Police didn't realise there was a serial rapist at large (Or multiple rapists) in the Claremont / Western Suburbs during such a small period of time. It is baffling. Even an FBI Agent made the link near the beginning of the case. Quite incredible when you look back on the case. If the other cases weren't CSK related then this part of Perth was a haven for rapists.
You have to look at the liklihood of each scenario.
The Taxi scenario where a fake Taxi picks the girls up is plausible, it would take an incredible amount of planning, would risk being sighted by other pedestrians etc so its likely you would not use this scenario. Not ruling it out. But you still would have to subdue your victims somehow (Which is still possible ofcourse),
Being a fake cop in a fake cop car (Which was originally rumoured I believe before the whole Taxi thing?) Is unlikely too, but still possible. It would again take alot of meticulous planning, their would be risks of sighting etc as these cars stand out. However still not ruling it out.
When you think of a blitz attack it seems highly likely that this would be his preferred method. If the girls were able to scream its still pretty secluded so the sounds really late at night could be mistook for party goers being roudy in a nightspot. He would probably only leave his victims capable of letting out a tiny scream before being swift away in his 'blitz attack'.
This also leaves the whole blitz attack wide open for potential suspects. Someone like MysteryMan could be capable of a 'blitz attack' you would think. If the Martial Arts Expert is involved you would definitely think a Blitz attack would be a cake walk, especially given his age at the time which is his physical prime. There are other suspects, if a rope or cable was used to subdue or choke them initially then it could be any Male of any physical size really who would be capable of carrying out this attack. The victims were easy targets, soft targets.
With what we know now, and if the articles are now correct, then its likely this was a blitz attack. Not sure where the Ink articles fall into this, I wonder if the ink is found on any victims? or at the drop zones?
Amazing how many sinister people there were in WA at the time. From Clare, to Dixie, Morey, Wark, The Serial Rapist, Dorrough etc... was a magnet for sinister behaviour.
Maybe the serial rapist 'signature' is to take his victim to the tombstone in the cemetery of someone he knows, or is familiar with and either rapes, or kills his victims there. I wonder if they ever looked into exactly where the Karrakatta girl was raped and checked the tombstones around that area for links?
I think your onto something there. Here is a recent article implying that the eyewitness information was released as part of the CIA Doco.
http://m.watoday.com.au/wa-news/cla...vestigate-1995-rape-lead-20151016-gkaq8i.html
Certainly explains why people may not have come forward- especially in the case of SS, who like Bart said, could have turned down a side street instead of going through the Stirling rd x Hwy lights.
The article also says telephone cable used in the Karrakatta incident, instead of electrical cable/flex as mentioned in much earlier articles.
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elastic-your thinking re karakatta tombstone is something i had also considered. if this is the case i imagine he would have visited karrakatta many times before and after. JR and CG have their memorial and grave in that very cemetery which is part of his hunting ground, if recent reports of the forensic link between karrakatta victim and CG are correct , quite disturbing.
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http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/wes...n/news-story/f983524f38373284f3fd7889a17ddc6f
I note that PW was driving a Ford Falcon Station Wagon in this video, I wonder if he was driving that same vehicle in the mid 90's? Also, I recall that Dennis Glennon had connections in Government and may have known PW, therefore did PW know CG? Was it his Station Wagon that pulled up next to CG that night and he called out to her and she recognised him as PW? Therefore she may have accepted a lift. Apparently PW does not have an alibi for the night of CG's murder and asked a friend to cover for him that night. Food for thought? Furthemore, PW was not a POI until 2004, his vehicle was not forensically examined and house searched until that time either.
I note that PW was driving a Ford Falcon Station Wagon in this video, I wonder if he was driving that same vehicle in the mid 90's? Also, I recall that Dennis Glennon had connections in Government and may have known PW, therefore did PW know CG? Was it his Station Wagon that pulled up next to CG that night and he called out to her and she recognised him as PW? Therefore she may have accepted a lift. Apparently PW does not have an alibi for the night of CG's murder and asked a friend to cover for him that night. Food for thought? Furthemore, PW was not a POI until 2004, his vehicle was not forensically examined and house searched until that time either.
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Whoa--PW asked a friend to provide a false alibi?? Is this the 'event' that has been referred to in the past?
Is this info available elsewhere or did you uncover it via...private research?
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In 2011 articles were published stating police were inquiring at a screen printing business about 'printing components' that went missing [in 1996-1997] and the printing process.
Posters started commenting that printing ink masks DNA.
That assumption doesn't make sense. DNA is destroyed or degraded by sunlight, hydrogen peroxide, or dozens of other common items. No one stole printing components to mask DNA.
Printing components may or may not have been found with the bodies. But not in an attempt to 'mask DNA', IMO.
http://www.news.com.au/national/fre...rial-killer-case/story-e6frfkp9-1226056298037
Also, this was 1996. I don't think Perth was a hotbed of forensic acumen. Would a criminal have been aware of DNA eradication methods?
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This is from a Post newspaper article from 2004
http://www.australianmissingpersonsregister.com/Spiers.htm
"Steven Ross (43), of Irwin Road, Embleton, told the POST this week the police should be looking for a fellow passenger, a man who had shared the taxi with Ms Spiers. Mr Ross said the man did not appear to know her. Mr Ross said another woman, also a stranger, had "doubled up" in the cab that night. Mr Ross said he dropped the second woman in Dalkeith. He said that she had never come forward. He said that after dropping the woman, he had taken the man and Ms Spiers to the Windsor Hotel, in South Perth. The man had pushed Ms Spiers out of the cab then paid the fare. "I think he came back to Claremont the next night, found her and killed her," Mr Ross said. Mr Ross, who had been a taxi driver at the time of the disappearances and murders, lives on a property owned by former Claremont mayor, school psychologist and civil rights campaigner Peter Weygers. Mr Weygers was using Mr Ross's former taxi, a Ford station wagon, when the police arrived at the Embleton property on Wednesday morning. They impounded and sealed the station wagon and another vehicle, a tray-top truck. Mr Weygers said Mr Ross used the vehicles in his work as a courier.
Mr Ross said that in 1996 he had made a statement to two Macro officers in the office of Claremont solicitor Grant Milner. Mr Milner confirmed this week that he had been present at the Mr Milner confirmed this week that he had been present at the interview. The Macro officers had been invited to hear Mr Ross's story. He said his recollection was that Mr Ross had been unsure about which night he had picked up Ms Spiers, and the police had not seemed very interested. Mr Milner said Mr Ross appeared to be an unsophisticated person, and sincere. He said he thought Mr Weygers had asked for the interview. (This part is a bit fishy..)
Police raided Mr Ross's home on Wednesday, armed with a search warrant that listed personal items belonging to the missing women. Mr Ross said he was not interested in talking to the police unless they released his taxi computer records for late January 1996. "I've got an alibi, but they won't give it to me," he said. "Without those records, I don't have an alibi for the time Sarah Spiers disappeared". "What if they accuse me of it? I know I was working that night., doing radio jobs. The computer records will prove it." He said he also wanted police to produce the young Dalkeith woman to corroborate his story. He said he had spoken to Sarah's father Don, many times of his suspicions about his male passenger. Mr Spiers had taken this information to police, he said. The car he was driving at the time Ciara Glennon was murdered is still available and registered as a taxi, he said.
There are two dwellings on Mr Weygers' Embleton property. Mr Weygers said he had bought the house from Mr Ross after Mr Ross got into financial difficulties when he lost his taxi licence. Mr Weygers said that about four years ago he had put a transportable unit on the back of the block and allowed Mr Ross to live there. He had completely stripped, renovated and re-painted the front house, which was now rented to a 20-year-old university student. Police seized the student's car and computer, containing all his university work this week. They sprayed the house with luminol, a toxic chemical which is a presumptive test for blood residue, which is indicated if the luminol glows in the dark. (Would that show up if the house had been stripped, renovated and re-painted?) Police scientists were at the house and the transportable most of the night. They probed the garden and searched both dwellings. Mr Ross said he had picked up Ms Spiers twice in the same night. The first trip had been from Wellington Street, Mosman Park, to Club Bay View, he said. He said the second had been from Claremont to South Perth. (What are the odds of him getting the same passenger twice in one night?) He said there had been a mix-up earlier in the night with a call from the same passenger. He said her name had come on his taxi computer screen and he asked if she was "Spier". He said she corrected him and said: "Spiers." He recalled that she had lived in Mill Point Road, South Perth.
Mr Weygers told the POST this week he had been driving the ex-taxi station wagon on Wednesday because his own car had broken down. He said police had told him they were leaving no stone unturned because a review of the Claremont serial killings was due later this year."
http://au.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/aussiecrime/conversations/topics/34
This one is from 2005, and it's pretty hectic.
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Jan 1, 2005
Macro hauls in taxi man
Macro detectives have again taken taxi driver Steven Ross off the streets for questioning about the Claremont serial killings.
They have also again seized the Falcon station wagon he was driving as a taxi at the time of the baffling murders.
"I was on the way to a job and they arrested me last Thursday," Mr Ross (43) told the POST.
"They took me to Curtin House (Macro headquarters) and questioned me about the murders.
"They showed me a power zapper (electric stun gun) I once owned and they had pictures I took of my girlfriend after she died. (MASSIVE WTF!!!???)
"They said they had taxi records that showed I had picked up Sarah Spiers on the night she went missing and took her to the Windsor Hotel.
"They said Mr Peter Weygers was waiting there at the Windsor.
"That is ********. They won't show me the taxi records and how could anyone have known I was driving to the Windsor [in South Perth]? I didn't know myself. (Um, I think they know because you mentioned it in the Post article last year ya dingbat)
"I didn't have a mobile phone in those days."
Mr Ross told police in 1996, shortly after Sarah Spiers (18) disappeared after a night out in Claremont, that he had picked up the teenager in Claremont the night before she disappeared and dropped her at the Windsor, near where she lived.
Ms Spiers had shared the cab with a stranger, a young man who got out of the cab with her, Mr Ross said (POST August 28).
In August this year, Macro detectives raided and searched Mr Ross's home in Embleton and impounded his two vehicles, the ex-taxi and a tray-top truck.
His house is owned by Mr Weygers, former Claremont mayor, child psychologist and president of the Council for Civil Liberties.
A month later, detectives forcibly took a hair from Mr Weygers' arm for DNA sampling, after taking him from his car on an Embleton street.
Later that day detectives raided and searched Mr Weygers' house in Richardson Avenue, Claremont (POST September 18).
Mr Ross said he had been taken from his truck in Seventh Avenue, Maylands, early on Thursday, December 16.
"They said Peter Weygers had kept newspaper clippings of the serial killings and had refused to voluntarily give DNA," he said. (Ding ding!)
Peter Weygers was Claremont mayor at the time and he and the council made many public statements on the abductions of the three women in 1996 and 1997.
Mr Ross said this week police had driven him around Claremont and pointed out various landmarks.
Police impounded the truck and seized the Falcon station wagon six days later by appointment.
They produced a stun gun he had bought for protection after he was stabbed in his taxi in 1987.
"They found out about the power zapper from their files," Mr Ross said.
"They asked where it was - I told them who had it. I said you can see them used in movies - they freeze people.
"The police said I used it to stun people in my taxi.
"I dropped in water and it wouldn't work so I gave it to a woman friend."
He said he had used the zapper only on a cat, which ran away after being zapped. (Seriously, this is just getting worse)
About 200 taxi drivers had bought the weapons from another driver who bought them in Germany and sold them for $200 each, he said.
Police produced photos Mr Ross had taken of his girlfriend in bed after she had died of an illness in the early 1990s, and also pictures of her funeral.
"They called me a sick person," he said.
Mr Ross's girlfriend, a former beauty queen, died at home while Mr Ross was at a police station being questioned by police over a fare over-charging complaint, which was later dismissed.
Mr Ross had contacted Mr Weygers as president of the Council for Civil Liberties after he became worried because a police officer suggested he would be blamed for the death.
Mr Weygers had then helped him fight various Taxi Board inquiries (seems like this guy has a few issues with passengers..) and had bought his house and allowed Mr Ross to live in a transportable home at the back.
Mr Ross said Mr Weygers had gone overseas the day before police had picked him up last week.
Earlier this month, a five-person international review team revealed it had uncovered a new line of inquiry in the Claremont serial killings, based on scientific examination of samples taken from the grave site of murdered 23-year-old Jane Rimmer (POST December 11)."
And here is Weygers defending a rapist:
"WA Council for Civil Liberties president Peter Weygers, who counsels students as a Department of Education psychologist, claimed Narkle had been wrongly convicted of rape at least three times, angering parent groups and politicians.
Mr Weygers, an ardent Narkle supporter, yesterday compared the violent rapist with soccer star David Beckham, who has been beset by a sex scandal.
"Some women are drawn to David Beckham because he is rich and famous and some women are attracted to Gary Narkle," Mr Weygers said. "Women like this are attracted to him, they will turn around and do it again. He is blamed when they voluntarily have sex with him and later regret it."
He said Narkle, who was freed on Friday after prosecutors said his alleged 14th victim was too distraught to testify against him, was not a danger to women.
"He is a sensitive person, he is an artist and these women have turned to him and then have regretted it."
Mr Weygers, who was awarded a Centenary of Federation Medal for the advancement of human rights and civil liberties, said he was a registered psychologist and had been a school counsellor for 32 years but had not done a proper psychological assessment of Narkle."
And here is a case taken out against Weygers for sexually harassing female staff at a school he was working at "http://www.docstoc.com/docs/41704651/The-Department-of-Education-and-Training--v--Peter-Hans-Weygers"
http://www.australianmissingpersonsregister.com/Spiers.htm
"Steven Ross (43), of Irwin Road, Embleton, told the POST this week the police should be looking for a fellow passenger, a man who had shared the taxi with Ms Spiers. Mr Ross said the man did not appear to know her. Mr Ross said another woman, also a stranger, had "doubled up" in the cab that night. Mr Ross said he dropped the second woman in Dalkeith. He said that she had never come forward. He said that after dropping the woman, he had taken the man and Ms Spiers to the Windsor Hotel, in South Perth. The man had pushed Ms Spiers out of the cab then paid the fare. "I think he came back to Claremont the next night, found her and killed her," Mr Ross said. Mr Ross, who had been a taxi driver at the time of the disappearances and murders, lives on a property owned by former Claremont mayor, school psychologist and civil rights campaigner Peter Weygers. Mr Weygers was using Mr Ross's former taxi, a Ford station wagon, when the police arrived at the Embleton property on Wednesday morning. They impounded and sealed the station wagon and another vehicle, a tray-top truck. Mr Weygers said Mr Ross used the vehicles in his work as a courier.
Mr Ross said that in 1996 he had made a statement to two Macro officers in the office of Claremont solicitor Grant Milner. Mr Milner confirmed this week that he had been present at the Mr Milner confirmed this week that he had been present at the interview. The Macro officers had been invited to hear Mr Ross's story. He said his recollection was that Mr Ross had been unsure about which night he had picked up Ms Spiers, and the police had not seemed very interested. Mr Milner said Mr Ross appeared to be an unsophisticated person, and sincere. He said he thought Mr Weygers had asked for the interview. (This part is a bit fishy..)
Police raided Mr Ross's home on Wednesday, armed with a search warrant that listed personal items belonging to the missing women. Mr Ross said he was not interested in talking to the police unless they released his taxi computer records for late January 1996. "I've got an alibi, but they won't give it to me," he said. "Without those records, I don't have an alibi for the time Sarah Spiers disappeared". "What if they accuse me of it? I know I was working that night., doing radio jobs. The computer records will prove it." He said he also wanted police to produce the young Dalkeith woman to corroborate his story. He said he had spoken to Sarah's father Don, many times of his suspicions about his male passenger. Mr Spiers had taken this information to police, he said. The car he was driving at the time Ciara Glennon was murdered is still available and registered as a taxi, he said.
There are two dwellings on Mr Weygers' Embleton property. Mr Weygers said he had bought the house from Mr Ross after Mr Ross got into financial difficulties when he lost his taxi licence. Mr Weygers said that about four years ago he had put a transportable unit on the back of the block and allowed Mr Ross to live there. He had completely stripped, renovated and re-painted the front house, which was now rented to a 20-year-old university student. Police seized the student's car and computer, containing all his university work this week. They sprayed the house with luminol, a toxic chemical which is a presumptive test for blood residue, which is indicated if the luminol glows in the dark. (Would that show up if the house had been stripped, renovated and re-painted?) Police scientists were at the house and the transportable most of the night. They probed the garden and searched both dwellings. Mr Ross said he had picked up Ms Spiers twice in the same night. The first trip had been from Wellington Street, Mosman Park, to Club Bay View, he said. He said the second had been from Claremont to South Perth. (What are the odds of him getting the same passenger twice in one night?) He said there had been a mix-up earlier in the night with a call from the same passenger. He said her name had come on his taxi computer screen and he asked if she was "Spier". He said she corrected him and said: "Spiers." He recalled that she had lived in Mill Point Road, South Perth.
Mr Weygers told the POST this week he had been driving the ex-taxi station wagon on Wednesday because his own car had broken down. He said police had told him they were leaving no stone unturned because a review of the Claremont serial killings was due later this year."
http://au.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/aussiecrime/conversations/topics/34
This one is from 2005, and it's pretty hectic.
"
Jan 1, 2005
Macro hauls in taxi man
Macro detectives have again taken taxi driver Steven Ross off the streets for questioning about the Claremont serial killings.
They have also again seized the Falcon station wagon he was driving as a taxi at the time of the baffling murders.
"I was on the way to a job and they arrested me last Thursday," Mr Ross (43) told the POST.
"They took me to Curtin House (Macro headquarters) and questioned me about the murders.
"They showed me a power zapper (electric stun gun) I once owned and they had pictures I took of my girlfriend after she died. (MASSIVE WTF!!!???)
"They said they had taxi records that showed I had picked up Sarah Spiers on the night she went missing and took her to the Windsor Hotel.
"They said Mr Peter Weygers was waiting there at the Windsor.
"That is ********. They won't show me the taxi records and how could anyone have known I was driving to the Windsor [in South Perth]? I didn't know myself. (Um, I think they know because you mentioned it in the Post article last year ya dingbat)
"I didn't have a mobile phone in those days."
Mr Ross told police in 1996, shortly after Sarah Spiers (18) disappeared after a night out in Claremont, that he had picked up the teenager in Claremont the night before she disappeared and dropped her at the Windsor, near where she lived.
Ms Spiers had shared the cab with a stranger, a young man who got out of the cab with her, Mr Ross said (POST August 28).
In August this year, Macro detectives raided and searched Mr Ross's home in Embleton and impounded his two vehicles, the ex-taxi and a tray-top truck.
His house is owned by Mr Weygers, former Claremont mayor, child psychologist and president of the Council for Civil Liberties.
A month later, detectives forcibly took a hair from Mr Weygers' arm for DNA sampling, after taking him from his car on an Embleton street.
Later that day detectives raided and searched Mr Weygers' house in Richardson Avenue, Claremont (POST September 18).
Mr Ross said he had been taken from his truck in Seventh Avenue, Maylands, early on Thursday, December 16.
"They said Peter Weygers had kept newspaper clippings of the serial killings and had refused to voluntarily give DNA," he said. (Ding ding!)
Peter Weygers was Claremont mayor at the time and he and the council made many public statements on the abductions of the three women in 1996 and 1997.
Mr Ross said this week police had driven him around Claremont and pointed out various landmarks.
Police impounded the truck and seized the Falcon station wagon six days later by appointment.
They produced a stun gun he had bought for protection after he was stabbed in his taxi in 1987.
"They found out about the power zapper from their files," Mr Ross said.
"They asked where it was - I told them who had it. I said you can see them used in movies - they freeze people.
"The police said I used it to stun people in my taxi.
"I dropped in water and it wouldn't work so I gave it to a woman friend."
He said he had used the zapper only on a cat, which ran away after being zapped. (Seriously, this is just getting worse)
About 200 taxi drivers had bought the weapons from another driver who bought them in Germany and sold them for $200 each, he said.
Police produced photos Mr Ross had taken of his girlfriend in bed after she had died of an illness in the early 1990s, and also pictures of her funeral.
"They called me a sick person," he said.
Mr Ross's girlfriend, a former beauty queen, died at home while Mr Ross was at a police station being questioned by police over a fare over-charging complaint, which was later dismissed.
Mr Ross had contacted Mr Weygers as president of the Council for Civil Liberties after he became worried because a police officer suggested he would be blamed for the death.
Mr Weygers had then helped him fight various Taxi Board inquiries (seems like this guy has a few issues with passengers..) and had bought his house and allowed Mr Ross to live in a transportable home at the back.
Mr Ross said Mr Weygers had gone overseas the day before police had picked him up last week.
Earlier this month, a five-person international review team revealed it had uncovered a new line of inquiry in the Claremont serial killings, based on scientific examination of samples taken from the grave site of murdered 23-year-old Jane Rimmer (POST December 11)."
And here is Weygers defending a rapist:
"WA Council for Civil Liberties president Peter Weygers, who counsels students as a Department of Education psychologist, claimed Narkle had been wrongly convicted of rape at least three times, angering parent groups and politicians.
Mr Weygers, an ardent Narkle supporter, yesterday compared the violent rapist with soccer star David Beckham, who has been beset by a sex scandal.
"Some women are drawn to David Beckham because he is rich and famous and some women are attracted to Gary Narkle," Mr Weygers said. "Women like this are attracted to him, they will turn around and do it again. He is blamed when they voluntarily have sex with him and later regret it."
He said Narkle, who was freed on Friday after prosecutors said his alleged 14th victim was too distraught to testify against him, was not a danger to women.
"He is a sensitive person, he is an artist and these women have turned to him and then have regretted it."
Mr Weygers, who was awarded a Centenary of Federation Medal for the advancement of human rights and civil liberties, said he was a registered psychologist and had been a school counsellor for 32 years but had not done a proper psychological assessment of Narkle."
And here is a case taken out against Weygers for sexually harassing female staff at a school he was working at "http://www.docstoc.com/docs/41704651/The-Department-of-Education-and-Training--v--Peter-Hans-Weygers"
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PW and SR were my #1 suspects for a long time. I have a file of dozens of articles published about these two.
But I have never seen anything that suggests or verifies PW had a friend provide a false alibi. Is this published information, or was it discovered by other means?
But I have never seen anything that suggests or verifies PW had a friend provide a false alibi. Is this published information, or was it discovered by other means?
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I may have read it in Debbie Marshall's book, and I know about it from other means. Does that answer your question?
But just to be clear, the friend did not provide the fale alibi to Police. PW confided in the friend and asked for them to provide an alibi for the night of CG's murder, in turn the friend reported that to Police.
But just to be clear, the friend did not provide the fale alibi to Police. PW confided in the friend and asked for them to provide an alibi for the night of CG's murder, in turn the friend reported that to Police.
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Checked and the following links may be of interest - more precisely screen printing ink/dye?
See final para in this article:
http://www.news.com.au/national/fre...rial-killer-case/story-e6frfkp9-1226056298037
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List of stuff masking DNA here:
http://www.crime-scene-investigator.net/dna.html
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Yep, I was wondering if there was an article available I had missed. Would love to know about anything else you've heard.
Thanks for clarifying that it was a request only and the friend did not comply.
But this means PW's solid alibi for the night one of the girls disappeared is still valid.
What are your thoughts on PW and SR being involved?
I believe that PW's and SR's actions were highly suspicious. If you drive past his house on the western side of Richardson Ave in Claremont, you will still see his Falcon station wagon which he drives every day. Despite this, I believe the police only had just enough circumstantial evidence to conduct those searches, and I can't help but think there was at least some political motivation. He was very outspoken against the police.
Can anybody recall seeing a detailed professional profile on the CSK, other than just " A controlled man who enjoys driving " ?
Can anybody recall seeing a detailed professional profile on the CSK, other than just " A controlled man who enjoys driving " ?
PW & SR have been eliminated along with just about everyone else. Overseas posters do not seem to realise that PW & SR have been covered quite some time ago. BTW the Special Crime Squad do now know of Papertrails find of the possible MM frame INSIDE the Conti chatting to a possible JR.
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Can you provide a source which confirms they have been eliminated. As of May 2015, PW was still not eliminated, so it must've been recent.
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The Post Neswpaper from March 21, 2015 says,
"These were Mr Williams and former Claremont mayor Peter Weygers, who are no longer of interest to police investigating the murders."
Police have ruled the same suspects in and out, so who can really say? Later articles claimed PW was still considered a suspect (but those were in response to PW's demand for $10 million in compensation).
I don't think it counts so much when a source is reported to be "police" or "investigators". For a statement of exclusion to really carry weight, it should read, 'Det. Stanbury announced yesterday that Thor is no longer a suspect.' Or, better yet, an official press release.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/259320541/POST-Newspaper-for-21st-of-March-2015#scribd
http://m.perthnow.com.au/news/weste...10m-compensation/story-fnhocxo3-1227373643089
"These were Mr Williams and former Claremont mayor Peter Weygers, who are no longer of interest to police investigating the murders."
Police have ruled the same suspects in and out, so who can really say? Later articles claimed PW was still considered a suspect (but those were in response to PW's demand for $10 million in compensation).
I don't think it counts so much when a source is reported to be "police" or "investigators". For a statement of exclusion to really carry weight, it should read, 'Det. Stanbury announced yesterday that Thor is no longer a suspect.' Or, better yet, an official press release.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/259320541/POST-Newspaper-for-21st-of-March-2015#scribd
http://m.perthnow.com.au/news/weste...10m-compensation/story-fnhocxo3-1227373643089
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