Clinton David Brink, 43 & Cristen Amanda Brink, 41 found on trail - Devil's Den State Park, AR- 26 July, 2025 #2 *Arrest*

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The big dummy could've stayed home, ordered a clippers over the internet, and gave himself a buzz cut. He is brazen, that's for sure.

jmopinion

He's cogent enough to realize he has to change his appearance, yet unorganized enough to do it in a public business, rather than staying at home and hiding out with clippers. Or even driving to another state, instead of doing it on his home turf.
 
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IMO the sketch looks nothing like him…i get they aren’t usually exact matches, but the eyes are a different size shape and width, his distinct pig-like nostrils are missing, the jaw and general face shape is different.

I almost wonder if the witnesses were thinking of someone else, but I kind of doubt there was another lone creepy man with a “death stare” out there
MOO

Ugh. It occurs to me that he will have scoped out local good sites for predation of children on a dark web kind of site and others may have directed him to this area because there are a lot of children and it is rather spread out, with good cover in many areas.

As said above, his computer will be bursting with ugly secrets. I only hope the information they find will be able to lead LE to other sexual predators.
 
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How terrifying for parents!! Where i live it’s way less, but… is it because there are less or less caught? As a parent myself i think it’s horryfying. I hope it isn’t kid-related, so all parents of kids he ever had can breathe again!!
I have asked myself this question over and over. Why? I think that too many school officials "pass the trash" and are also eager to get rid of the bad eggs as quickly as possible without public scrutiny and the backlash that come with it. They just get rid of the problem and send them on to be someone else's problem. Hopefully this is coming to an end because there are at least two school administrators who are being prosecuted right now for this. Another is being sued in civil court. The curtain has been pulled back. Hopefully accountability will return.
 
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Photo of the perp's mugshot, still with his barber's smock on. ^^^
I didn't know if it was posted here yet ?
Eeek !
He is showing everyone his angry hate-filled expression, because that's what it appears to me.
The CNN article says LE also took some samples of his already-cut hair.
Question-- was he cut/injured and was there still evidence of that ??

I have to surmise some educators/school admin. may have had some 'off' vibes and maybe that's why he was traveling around ?
Imo.
 
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I try to see things from various points of view.

If Le knew that he left the park, then telling everyone at the park might not be the right answer. They had plenty of LE in the park and telling people would surely get some to be hanging around trying to see or they would post about it and cause many more to come to this park to have a look too and so maybe LE was trying to process the scene as much as possible without broadcasting that they were doing so and hopefully preventing more people from coming to make a show of it. True crime things have really gotten wild in recent years since people and monotonize it, they seem to do wild/crazy things in order to get the views, likes, clicks, etc.

It can be quite a snowball effect if they releae something because anyone and everyone begins calling in about xyz and unless they have a solid lead that that IS what they are looking for, it really will tie up the phone lines and then the actual tips that might lead to this person could get lost in the shuffle. This time it seemed to work out, but what if that podcaster releasing the video with the car caused innocent people to be chased down by civilians trying to "help". I understand the person didn't get through to the tip line, but does that mean going to a podcaster is the way to do it? I don't think it is. Then the dispatcher was on a podcast as well talking.

I do think most just really do want to help, but there is a dark and gross side to true crime also and there are people who just want to make money and get clicks. It is a fine line between helping and hurting so I do understand the police calling out the podcasters because they should be held to some type of standard.

I think if it were me and I had a tip that I needed LE to know aobut, I'd all the tip line, then I'd try walking in to the local police department, if that didn't work, I'd call the next closest LE like the county LE, or the next city over, or try the state police. I think telling someone in LE and letting them relay the info is so much better/safer than talking to a podcaster who may or may not have the case's best interest in mind.

IMO
 
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I have asked myself this question over and over. Why? I think that too many school officials "pass the trash" and are also eager to get rid of the bad eggs as quickly as possible without public scrutiny and the backlash that come with it. They just get rid of the problem and send them on to be someone else's problem. Hopefully this is coming to an end because there are at least two school administrators who are being prosecuted right now for this. Another is being sued in civil court. The curtain has been pulled back. Hopefully accountability will return.
Bbm.
Good to hear. ^^^

Parents have a right to know if people with priors or unreported school-setting offenses are being hired as educators.
Holy cow.
Imo.
 
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  • #408
I think the answer to your question is in the first part of your question in the form of a statement.

As you stated, he was very likely running from creep vibes. But.... there is no mandatory reporting for creep vibes. And..... officials probably don't want creep vibes serving as the basis for voluntary reporting because creep vibes can be vague and / or subjective.

Rather, mandatory reporting is required in cases where there is evidence of physical or sexual abuse. But.... one can radiate creepiness, and not have any indications that they have committed sexual or physical abuse.

Actually mandatory reporting is NOT limited to instances where there is evidence.
Mandatory reporting is for ‘suspicion of abuse or neglect of a minor”. I’ve reported several times as I’m a former Texas public school teacher and have volunteered as a sports coach for YMCA off and on for many years.
Maybe that is the issue, the public doesn’t know these laws have changed in the last 20 years?
I wasn’t certain about Oklahoma and Arkansas, their wording is different but the spirit is the same.
You can call and report anonymously or give your name and contact info.

Texas Child Abuse Reporting Requirements
Texas law requires that any person suspecting that a child has been abused or neglected must immediately make a report. If there is an emergency, call 911 and then call the DFPS Texas Abuse Hotline at 1-800-252-5400. You can also make a report online (External Link).

In Texas every person has a legal obligation and can be prosecuted for not reporting.
So- if he was under suspicion in Texas- someone is going is going to lose their job and if they have some- their professional credentials. Also in Texas you have 48 hours to report.

Oklahoma Mandatory Reporting of Child Abuse and Neglect
Standards for Making a Report
Citation: Ann. Stat. Tit. 10A, § 1-2-101; Tit. 21, § 1021.4
A report is required when any of the following apply:
Any person has reason to believe that a child under age 18 is a victim of abuse or neglect.


Arkansas Mandated Reporter Portal
Reports of suspected child abuse and neglect can be reported by anyone, 24-hours a day, seven days a week, through a toll-free phone number — 800-482-5964 or (844) SAVEACHILD. If there is any reason to suspect the life of a child is in immediate danger, contact the nearest local law enforcement agency or dial 9-1-1, then follow-up with a call to the Hotline.

IMO
 
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Just insane this alleged (LE have his DNA though) murderer was a "school teacher." Sources are reporting he previously worked as a school teacher at Donald Elementary (Lewisville, TX) school; and resigned after being accused of inappropriate behavior toward children.

-- Why are we not protecting our children yet, again?
-- Why are we passing these sick-O’s on to reoffend somewhere else?
-- Donald Elementary School (DES) needs to be looked at as to why they let this sick person resign only, did they not report him?
-- DES owes it to community, taxpayers and society to report inappropriate behavior toward children (dont ignore) and protect children.
-- These pedophiles dont stop because they are in a different area.
-- No wonder children dont speak up, some adults dont take them seriously. :mad:



Marcum told CBS News that, over the course of the school year, her son reported inappropriate behavior by McGann toward the girls in his class. It included being "very touchy with the girls and having them on his lap and making comments to them and keeping them back from recess."

In an email sent to parents in 2023 and shared with CBS News, a school administrator said McGann was placed on leave pending the results of an investigation into "complaints of poor classroom management and poor professional judgment."

"While our investigation did not find any evidence of inappropriate behavior with a student, we did find his classroom management and professional judgment to be below our district's expectations," the email said.
This is the problem. They weren't able to prove SA actions so nothing stringent was done.
 
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I have asked myself this question over and over. Why? I think that too many school officials "pass the trash" and are also eager to get rid of the bad eggs as quickly as possible without public scrutiny and the backlash that come with it. They just get rid of the problem and send them on to be someone else's problem. Hopefully this is coming to an end because there are at least two school administrators who are being prosecuted right now for this. Another is being sued in civil court. The curtain has been pulled back. Hopefully accountability will return.
Where i live it (bad classroom management, not teaching well, not being a nice collague, not communicating well with parents) is a lot of work to get rid of a teacher after they have been with you a couple of years. You need evaluations, re-evaluations, reports, getting others on board for evaluations,… it takes a lot of time (in which they keep on working in your school) and paperwork. A lot of schools try to get them away by giving them jobs they don’t like, giving them the chance to leave themselves,… is it possible this is the case here? But then within the year in his case.

To be clear: this is NOT the case when they assume CSAM ofcourse, when police,… is involved they’re removed immediately!

Working with people (elderly, sick people, people in need, vulnerable people, kids,…) should be taken WAY more seriously worldwide IMO. Not suitable = find yourself a less caring job!
 
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Sierra Marcum said three years ago, her son was a student in McGann's fourth grade classroom in Donald Elementary School in Flower Mound, Texas, and described him as the "most standoff teacher" she had ever met. Her son's yearbook includes a photo of McGann.

"Pretty cold. You could ask him a question and he would give you a one word response," she said. "Overall just pretty disinterested in his students."

Marcum told CBS News that, over the course of the school year, her son reported inappropriate behavior by McGann toward the girls in his class. It included being "very touchy with the girls and having them on his lap and making comments to them and keeping them back from recess."


 
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Bbm.
Good to hear. ^^^

Parents have a right to know if people with priors or unreported school-setting offenses are being hired as educators.
Holy cow.
Imo.
Similar to what the Catholic church does, move a priest with a history of SA to another parish without any thought about the parishioners
 
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Sierra Marcum said three years ago, her son was a student in McGann's fourth grade classroom in Donald Elementary School in Flower Mound, Texas, and described him as the "most standoff teacher" she had ever met. Her son's yearbook includes a photo of McGann.

"Pretty cold. You could ask him a question and he would give you a one word response," she said. "Overall just pretty disinterested in his students."

Marcum told CBS News that, over the course of the school year, her son reported inappropriate behavior by McGann toward the girls in his class. It included being "very touchy with the girls and having them on his lap and making comments to them and keeping them back from recess."



And there you go, he was a creep!
I think more stories are going to come out, he was a coach and then taught kids for three years

IMO
 
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To be clear: this is NOT the case when they assume CSAM ofcourse, when police,… is involved they’re removed immediately!
Snipped for focus
Exactly. In this case they never got to this point, which led to the Devil’s Den incident.
 
  • #417
They updated his mugshot. Scary.

What's with the hair?

The two booking photos have pretty different hair appearance. The one that seems first-released, where he is tilting his head has straighish hair with a central part, and his unruly locks jutting out here, there, and everywhere. It truly has the madman look to it.

This second one shows his unruly curly hair has at least been combed and he looks like he might have had a shower.

Does LE have to give him some grooming to as to not be accused of posting prejudicial images?
 
  • #418
They updated his mugshot. Scary.

Wow... thanks for this . ^^^
Different from the one from CNN.
Wonder if it was initially dampened down a bit and he is naturally curly ?
Part of me wishes they'd start to give him a buzz cut, but the barber was only half-finished -- so he'd look silly.
This perp deserves a little humiliation, imo !

Two young girls have lost a major part of their world and life will never be the same.
Their mom and dad must have fought so hard to protect them.
They're heroes !!!
Omo.
 
  • #419
Similar to what the Catholic church does, move a priest with a history of SA to another parish without any thought about the parishioners
Yeah, that occurred to me, too.
 
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Ugh. It occurs to me that he will have scoped out local good sites for predation of children on a dark web kind of site and others may have directed him to this area because there are a lot of children and it is rather spread out, with good cover in many areas.

As said above, his computer will be bursting with ugly secrets. I only hope the information they find will be able to lead LE to other sexual predators.

I feel like if somebody were to try to ask a question like that on a dark web forum the responses would mostly be jokes or people telling you to kill yourself (also as a joke). There isn't really a culture of cooperation like that.
 
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