Clinton David Brink, 43, Cristen Amanda Brink, 41 found on trail- Devil's Den State Park, AR- 26 July, 2025 *Arrest*

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  • #861
I do feel strongly about the image being a female of middle age, maybe a bit older than the wife, but not older than mid 40s.
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This was my gut reaction, too.
 
  • #862
This is what AK released as a composite sketch of the suspect:

Devils-Den-Double-Homicide-Person-of-Interest-Sketch-1097x1536.webp

 
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  • #864
Exactly! I think this could also be the behavior of a middle aged female trying to look like a man, and also like an experience hiker, but no actual experience. I feel a male would never have worried about name brands, this seems to me almost too planned....too thought out...definitely not random....this person had inside information that the family was going to be hiking on that day, on that trail...because they prepared for it..IMO...Also, a woman in disguise would explain why the wife went back...she recognized the person....I would look to someone close to the family, something was going on that will more than likely come out in the upcoming weeks...again these are all scenarios running through my mind, but I do feel strongly about the image being a female of middle age, maybe a bit older than the wife, but not older than mid 40s...just judging by the shape of the image anyway..And I like that you point out that the clothing is appropriate for Maine in Autumn months , but not Arkansas in July, as I think a man would have paid more attention to weather, while a woman would have been more focused on "looking the part"

A group of four young adults, 2 men and 2 women, passed this person an hour or so before the murders
They put together the sketch we’ve all seen
That group described a young man in his mid to late 20’s with facial stubble, about 5’10” to 6 feet tall with a stocky build

A young man in that group called in to a local YouTuber because he could not get in to talk to anyone on the ASP tip line- and was interviewed late Sunday evening

That local YouTuber has now been on News Nation discussing this case

If it is a woman, based on a photo from the back, than this person fooled four adults who walked passed him on a walking trail.

Just saying, Don’t come for me
IMO
 
  • #865
As a total aside
Indulge me
I'm the poster who started the whole "recognize eye color in a passing stranger" tangent
I realized why I don't do the eye contact thing - and never have

I grew up in and around New York City
You are raised to avoid eye contact with strangers
So as to not provoke any monkey business if s/he is a little you know what
Hi I wanted to say that I understand and respect why someone growing up in NYC would be raised to avoid eye contact so as not to send the wrong signal and invite unwanted attention. Having said that I also hope you can understand and respect that those of us raised in the south, (Texas) I was raised to always maintain eye contact as it shows respect. Because of that I ALWAYS notice someone's eye color, no matter if I spoke to them or just passed them on a hiking trail. This shows a very key concept of how being raised in a big city as opposed to small southern town can bring about very different witnesses in a situation such as this. So, I appreciate that you pointed out why you wouldn't notice eye color, rather than just saying something negative about the witness that did. Very important reasons are behind the differences noticed by witnesses, it usually always has to do with where you were raised....and not so much how...
 
  • #866
What other purpose than abduction would that huge bag serve? He wouldn't need a giant bag just to put a change of clothes in or even to carry supplies like knife, rope, tarp.
(Bolding by me)
Unless we're talking about a seriously large, long "knife" or bladed weapon, like, I don't know, a machete? I know it seems a bit far-fetched to think of carrying such an item in an oversized duffel like the one we think is shown in the photo...but it *would* otherwise be awfully hard to hide it if you were wandering around on a trail, wouldn't it? You'd almost need to put it in some kind of enclosure that didn't make it obvious what you were lugging around, and a jumbo-sized bag might seem to fit the bill. Just IMO/speculation.
 
  • #867
Very good point. On the other hand, female-to-male transitioning persons have stubble, deep voices. I've known them.
 
  • #868
(Bolding by me)
Unless we're talking about a seriously large, long "knife" or bladed weapon, like, I don't know, a machete? I know it seems a bit far-fetched to think of carrying such an item in an oversized duffel like the one we think is shown in the photo...but it *would* otherwise be awfully hard to hide it if you were wandering around on a trail, wouldn't it? You'd almost need to put it in some kind of enclosure that didn't make it obvious what you were lugging around, and a jumbo-sized bag might seem to fit the bill. Just IMO/speculation.
That is a good point.

jmopinion
 
  • #869
A group of four young adults, 2 men and 2 women, passed this person an hour or so before the murders
They put together the sketch we’ve all seen
That group described a young man in his mid to late 20’s with facial stubble, about 5’10” to 6 feet tall with a stocky build

A young man in that group called in to a local YouTuber because he could not get in to talk to anyone on the ASP tip line- and was interviewed late Sunday evening

That local YouTuber has now been on News Nation discussing this case

If it is a woman, based on a photo from the back, than this person fooled four adults who walked passed him on a walking trail.

Just saying, Don’t come for me
IMO
No I would never come for you, lol, I was just pointing out what I see from the image posted of the person's backside. I was wondering about the witness seeing the person and describing them as male, mid 20s , stubble, etc. I even wondered if we might not be talking about 2 different people...do you or anyone know where the image came from? I missed that information somewhere, I am sure it is posted and I will go back and try to figure it out....but I am only posting my thoughts, and I would never criticize anyone else for their thoughts, we are all just thinking out loud....throwing stuff at the wall and hoping something sticks...
 
  • #870
So, I haven't read all of the posts so forgive me if something I say was already mentioned/disproven.

The girls ran to the visitors center. The troopers searching the main trail heard screams from the lower trail ( I presume from one of the victims however this may have been proven a false statement). Troopers found both victims dead on the lower trail.

Going off the assumption that the screams heard by the troopers were from one of the victims, something caused the girls to run back to the visitors center early enough in the incident that troopers arrived in time to hear the screams for help. Either there was an initial attack that caused the girls to flee. Or, it was someone that they knew and/or considered a threat. There seems to be a decent amount of time between when the girls went back to the visitors center , the 911 call was made and troopers heard the screams.

Has it been confirmed that the girls were both victims biological daughters?

After listening into several minutes of 911 calls, with multiple calls in between. It appears that a passerby walked the children to the visitor center, while another passerby went to help thr victims. So horrible. Thank goodness there was a kind adult who could take charge.
 
  • #871
Just curious, if you think the person in the photo is a woman, do you think the witnesses saw a different person on the trail?

Though it's only one possibility amongst many, @RedHaus might have had the right idea when suggesting the suspect could be a trans man. I don't mean to offend anyone by saying that, in fact I really hope I don't, but it could make sense of a seeming contradiction: a man with stubble who still retains some of their more feminine characteristics.

Either that or a woman made up to look like a man, complete with a false beard. Though you'd think witnesses might have noticed that.

I'm personally struck by how small the suspect's feet appear to be, but that might just be the angle of the picture.
 
  • #872
A group of four young adults, 2 men and 2 women, passed this person an hour or so before the murders
They put together the sketch we’ve all seen
That group described a young man in his mid to late 20’s with facial stubble, about 5’10” to 6 feet tall with a stocky build

A young man in that group called in to a local YouTuber because he could not get in to talk to anyone on the ASP tip line- and was interviewed late Sunday evening

That local YouTuber has now been on News Nation discussing this case

If it is a woman, based on a photo from the back, than this person fooled four adults who walked passed him on a walking trail.

Just saying, Don’t come for me
IMO
From my link above with the official LE release of the sketch, AK police also state "(ASP) released a composite sketch of a man...Investigators have asked the public for help identifying the man"...

The police statements are very clear. I don't think social media speculation should contradict the police and claim the suspect is a woman.

JMO
 
  • #873
YES!!! Either the witnesses are confusing the suspect or we are, but the image is female...I feel like anyway..
The witnesses also noticed the large bags. I am quite convinced the person the witnesses saw (and described as a man with stubble) and the person in the photo are the same person. The sketch even shows the bag at the shoulders.

jmopinion
 
  • #874
I'll bet it was an out of state plate.

It's difficult to remember a specific license # to recall, but it's much easier to recognize an out-of-state plate.
And could be why FBI stepped in

MOO
 
  • #875
Though it's only one possibility amongst many, @RedHaus might have had the right idea when suggesting the suspect could be a trans man. I don't mean to offend anyone by saying that, in fact I really hope I don't, but it could make sense of a seeming contradiction: a man with stubble who still retains some of their more feminine characteristics.

Either that or a woman made up to look like a man, complete with a false beard. Though you'd think witnesses might have noticed that.

I'm personally struck by how small the suspect's feet appear to be, but that might just be the angle of the picture.


I am leaning on an athletic build that the person padded out with clothing to disguise their build. Could be wrong. IMO
 
  • #876
The witnesses also noticed the large bags. I am quite convinced the person the witnesses saw (and described as a man with stubble) and the person in the photo are the same person. The sketch even shows the bag at the shoulders.

jmopinion
I understand that as well, I just think the person in the image looks like a female...but again that is just my opinion, and in no way means anything...I am just thinking out loud here...
 
  • #877
I still kinda think he was there to pick something up that had been left for him in that park. Hence the empty bags.
Who hikes with empty bags?
I have certainly never seen it.
He may have needed a long bag for (shudder) a long knife.
 
  • #878
But to me it shows no personal connection, not targeted.
I agree. Thrill kill. Or its a fit of rage is what i suspect.
 
  • #879
No I would never come for you, lol, I was just pointing out what I see from the image posted of the person's backside. I was wondering about the witness seeing the person and describing them as male, mid 20s , stubble, etc. I even wondered if we might not be talking about 2 different people...do you or anyone know where the image came from? I missed that information somewhere, I am sure it is posted and I will go back and try to figure it out....but I am only posting my thoughts, and I would never criticize anyone else for their thoughts, we are all just thinking out loud....throwing stuff at the wall and hoping something sticks...

I think a lot is possible, and Stranger Things have surely happened, but not a lot is likely.
Someone suggested a trans male
Others have said a middle aged woman dressed up like a man
Now it seems some think it could be a different person from the sketch
The simple answer is- the people that saw this person in the flesh and thought it was a man are right

The sketch was provided by the group of four, and given to LE
LE provided the public with both the sketch and the photo

I have no idea where the photo came from- not sure anyone has posted that info. Have they?

Two people were stabbed to death, in front of their children
The killer is at large and today is Day 5

To me, it feels like a cluster, so all of us (maybe just me) feel like we need to figure it out.
I’m concerned for family in the area, especially those with small children.

As I’ve posted, we need a press conference, a demonstration of transparency, so the public can feel like this case is in good hands. It feels like the best moment to catch this killer has passed.

I see this case hit the National News today, all the major outlets. One newscast replay I saw had over 8 million views. It is no longer a southern case- it is a national case!

IMO
 
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  • #880
I understand that the witness described the person as being a man, mid 20s , with stubble. But I have made a couple comments about my opinion that the image from behind reminds me of a female, as well as some of the behaviors, like the clothing choices and also the fact that the wife went back suggests she thought she could help. I was wondering if anyone has considered the new silicone masks that completely change a persons looks, from man to woman , beards, all sorts of things...they look real and I promise you that you would never know if the person did not show you they had one of them on...I am only pointing this out because of the clear differences in the description by the witness and the image shown from behind, and again these are only my thoughts and I am not saying they are true, just thoughts...check out the masks they are legit...
 
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