CNN News 1/1/09 (Videos Of Show Included)

[kathyn2]

As far as LP goes, much of what he says are his own theories that he reports as facts but if you ask him he will say they are only his ideas, not fact. I don't think he purposefully tries to mislead anyone. I do believe he has a few friends behind the scenes like Nick Savage that do fill him in on some things and I do believe he has met some of the players at different times and has heard some things and some rumors. I like him but I take everything with a grain of salt. I do find his theories interesting. I don't think he would lie about who talked to him and what went on. I do not believe he lies at all. Just that sometimes he just gives his theories and not facts and you have to be able to discern that when listening.

 

[TravelingBug]

Hi belladonna she is discussed in the parking lot under the rumors thread if I'm not mistaken.

I wish I would have screen shot her chat. I went there but did not verbally abuse her. That's just not my way. But I was the anonymous user that looked up her criminal activity on myorangecounty clerk and posted it to her chat room. I'd love to know more about Baez's associates that are working for him or with him. I think it might give us some insight into how defense is going to work this trial.

I believe someone was screenshotting during the chat and that they are in that same parking lot thread (or another from that same day) - including of the info it sounds like you posted! LOL

 

[LeLe1953]

Personally, and this is just my idea and opinion....sometime in November the A's asked the PI to go look in the area they knew the body to be in. I believe they got this info from Casey at some point either from letters passed on from Baez or from the PI that heard it while working with Baez. The PI and H went to the site to get the body but were not in quite the right area and didn't find the body (it was scattered over a whole acre of land!) and hidden in the thick brush. They filmed the area maybe to take it back to JB to show Casey. Whatever....they didn't find anything or if they did they kept their mouths shut. If their video doesn't show the exact area of the bag with the skull I don't think the video helps KC at all in her defense.

Interesting. Would anyone know how the timing of this would coincide with Kc saying "they haven't even found her clothes?"

 

[impatientredhead]

That isn't what I gathered from the exchange we are talking about.

What happened is that the other guest called LP out and basically said that his credibility sucked, and then LP said that his FBI friend, NS, would back him up on everything he has ever said.

My impression is that LP wasn't talking about all this tape/ PI nonsense, but rather his personal credibility in general, not just on this specific issue.

All I can say is that if LP thinks the FBI is going to back him up on everything he has ever said he is purely delusional. So many of his statements and stories are so easily disproved I don't know how anything he says can be taken at face value. That was the point the other guest was making.

Oh yeah- LP also said the tape is about 100 yards off, so not precisely taping the area her body was in.

I am curious about all these distance references. There was no body to find or film. She was spread across an acre of land. Is everyone referring to the bag with the skull as being ground zero of what everyone was looking for? I also don't get what anyone thinks would be in these videos or pictures? The skull wasn't out of the bag at that time, the MM did that, so at most their video and picture would include a plastic bag still in the brush?

 

[countzero]

There was a former LE or FBI guy on NG one night that said he had worked with LP and his word was golden.I started looking at LP differently after that.
But now it seems he has a new theory every day.

Not to be snarly, but most folks have a new theory every day :waitasec: depending on what is released to the media or not released.

LP is not stupid. He is not about to risk his lively hood and employment as well as PI license to get another 15 minutes of fame. He doesn't care about TV exposure. He is after KC, as he should be for personal reasons as well as making sure the correct person is convicted of murder.

LP has been on the mark most of the time with the info he has had at that given time. I too remember the former FBI agent that publicly vouched for LP and I have to believe that LP does know more than he has said. Too many people want to believe only what they see in this equation that KC has created.

There are far too numerous factors in this case that the older ones get lost and replaced by theories that people run with.

If and that is a huge IF, JB was informed that KC did in fact confess, he can only defend the evidence not KC's innocence. Which is the theory I believe has occurred. JB is doing everything a defense attorney should be doing; attempting to poke holes in the prosecutions evidence.

Don't think it will work, but he is gonna give it his novice try.

 

[tehcloser]

I'm really beginning to think LP may be full of some valid bombshells.

Maybe I need to start drinking or go to bed or something- but I really don't think he would have dropped Savage's name unless there was a real relationship there.

I think he is right about this only because I know he was told of this video and Joy on the 18th of December, he might have known sooner. Forum breakdown?

 

[FIND'HER]

How am I missing all this news. Not even been on CNN here on the East Coast. hmmm

 

[Zoe Bogart]

I just watched the rerun. Yes, Leonard said he had the video conversation around Dec. 16-17th, something like that.

That sassy guy who attacked LP was wrong. He said LP was just saying this today about the video. No, I heard him say it on Monday/Tuesday overnight on Jane VM's show. He said then the video was made supposedly in November and LP found out about the tape in December (15th-16th-17th). Boy, I wanted to reach into the TV and smack that sassy creature.

 

[essies]

I'm really beginning to think LP may be full of some valid bombshells.

Maybe I need to start drinking or go to bed or something- but I really don't think he would have dropped Savage's name unless there was a real relationship there.

LP has used Nick Savages name before. I remember hearing it back at the BP dive search when the whole lie detector question came up.

 

[costalpilot]

since LP is the best bounty hunter bar none

there is obviously a wide open career field available

 

[autumnlover]

January 1, 2009
Prime News

Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8Y_ZIU9ySM
Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bpMZehkB74

Thanks for the links, Patty and Happy New Year to you, too!

 

[beckaroozie]

So the question is how does LP get from a filming of where the body IS NOT, to the A's knew her body was there? :waitasec:

LP better watch it on that front too -- all the A's are lawyered up and I'm sure a lil ole defamation suit wouldn't be out of the question.

 

[natsound]

I do not think that LP is lying about this b/c he named an FBI Agent. I tell you what if he was lying on TV like this I think they could get him for slander which makes me think he is being credible.

But cyberborg noted something a few posts back. Originally, on NG, LP stated that "on the 15th, the PI calls me, says they found Caylee. Is she alive? No, she's dead."
(not an exact quote)

NOW, LP is saying this conversation took place December 15th. After the remains were found on December 11????? :bang:

He is intentionally vague, so people will listen to him and think he has something when he doesn't.

 

[Rlaub44]

I'm really beginning to think LP may be full of some valid bombshells.

Maybe I need to start drinking or go to bed or something- but I really don't think he would have dropped Savage's name unless there was a real relationship there.

I just had a thought - does anyone recall when LP stated on NG's show something on the order of (paraphrasing) "Don't be surprised if we hear soon that LE has Caylee's body." We all wondered where that came from, and then a few days later, she was discovered.

Maybe his comments were based on this info, and the knowledge that he (perhaps) had shared it with FBI. Just spitballing, but it would answer my nagging question of why LP had said that supposedly out of left field.

 

[JBean]

yeah ther was a glitch..please delete any dup posts you may have

 

[impatientredhead]

I totally believe LP. There is no way, in this case, he would lie. Nick Savage is well respected amongst FBI agents. I just heard LP on CNN. I do not believe he would bring up NS name and risk being in a legal jam if this is not true.

IN ADDITION...He is saying that they found Caylee on November 15,2008. The conversation went like this, according to LP, "We found Caylee" the other PI says "Dead or alive?" "Dead, and we are moving her now ." The A's are going down and they know it.

I want to mention one more interesting thing. MN, the A's first attorney, quit on November 20th. Five days after the PI made this discovery. I wonder if he was tipped off and at that time he knew that it was not worth losing his reputation over to continue on with these conniving people??:waitasec:

He may have spent those five days advising them to do the right thing and tell LE (he would not be able to), and when he realized that it was not going to happen he resigned. I don't think they moved the body, it was too spread out.

My question is if the PI did not find out this info until 11-15, then he was not on Baez payroll then and it would not be privileged. Did he just come up with the idea to go film it on the 15th and he has known the local since being on the defense team? And when did George and Cindy find out?

 

[JBean]

You guys when you post and it doesn't show up and just keep loading..don;t post over and over. they are in a queue and when the system resolves it will post them all. Just for future.

 

[curiositycat]

Someone please tell me which of these statements is a true description of the most recent news:

1. DC called Hoover in November to tell him that "we found Caylee and we are going to get her right now".

2. Hoover went with DC to the site and video taped the search, hoping to end up with a video of the remains, or the recovery of the remains to sell to a media outlet.

3. At the time of the November video, both PIs were workling for the A family.

4. Hoover told LP about the video December 15th, 4 days after Caylee was found by the meter reader.

5. Two hours after telling LP about the video, Hoover returned and let LP see 1 1/2 minutes of it.

6. The area shown in the video tape is 600 yards from the final resting spot of the remains.

(LP said on NG that the FBI confiscated Hoover's video tape, cell phone and some still shots of the area - this I heard myself)

How does this equate to the A's knew where Caylee was dumped? Anyone?

A possibility is that the body was found on November15th and it was moved. It was then put back but not in the exact position as shown in the video tape.

I also find it extremely interesting that MNJ quit on November 20th, five days later. Perhaps one of his PI connections told him something.:waitasec: At that time he no longer cared to be involved with the conniving gp's.

JMO

 

[costalpilot]

There was a former LE or FBI guy on NG one night that said he had worked with LP and his word was golden.I started looking at LP differently after that.
But now it seems he has a new theory every day.

his word may be good but hsi opinions are not so good

as NG knows

sure wish she had been interviewing the lawyer

he said, at least, two things that were weak:

1. prosec. nneds the anthonys to testify the car smelled like death


(I guess he hasnt been following the case enough to know they have BOTH changed their statements to the smell was "pizza and maggots"

but then again the lawyer was just trying to make a point, not be factual and/or truthful.


2. the lawyer said the only reason anybody is talking about anyone needing immunity is because TH's like him have been talking about it on tv.

everyone knows it was la's atty who said la might be charged...and that he needed immunity...xcept the tv lawyer trying to make a point.

give me a break...where is NG...she doesnt let cr@p like this slide by her on air.

 

[natsound]

Not to be snarly, but most folks have a new theory every day :waitasec: depending on what is released to the media or not released.

LP is not stupid. He is not about to risk his lively hood and employment as well as PI license to get another 15 minutes of fame. He doesn't care about TV exposure. He is after KC, as he should be for personal reasons as well as making sure the correct person is convicted of murder.

LP has been on the mark most of the time with the info he has had at that given time. I too remember the former FBI agent that publicly vouched for LP and I have to believe that LP does know more than he has said. Too many people want to believe only what they see in this equation that KC has created.

There are far too numerous factors in this case that the older ones get lost and replaced by theories that people run with.

If and that is a huge IF, JB was informed that KC did in fact confess, he can only defend the evidence not KC's innocence. Which is the theory I believe has occurred. JB is doing everything a defense attorney should be doing; attempting to poke holes in the prosecutions evidence.

Don't think it will work, but he is gonna give it his novice try.

Above in bold... I respectfully, but wholeheartedly, disagree!!