GUILTY CO - 1 dead, 8 injured, shots fired at STEM School in Highlands Ranch, 7 May 2019

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Horrible. Praying for those in the area and the families of the injured and killed.
 
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Awful, how do we stop this?!

Does the President need to mandate security in schools? Things such as metal detectors at all entrances into schools?

I am thinking of years ago when seatbelts were ordered to be in cars. However, it took years for all the states to make it a law to wear them. Gee, my state made it a law early on so have no idea if a federal law eventually mandated for it all states. :(.
 
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School Shooting in Colorado Leaves 1 Student Dead and 8 Injured

Patrick Neville, a Columbine survivor and the top Republican lawmaker in the Colorado House of Representatives, said in a statement that the shooting was a reminder “of the need to secure our schools.”

He said armed security guards and facility upgrades were the best way to keep students safe.

“School safety programs which include armed security and safety upgrades to school facilities are the best way to stop these criminals from harming our children,” he said.
 
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ABC affiliate Denver7 has released some info on the alledged second shooter. Because he is a juvenile they are not giving his name but say he is a 17 year old mid-transition transgender male . They also say at least one of the suspects has been in therapy and involved with legal & illegal drugs, though they are not saying which one.

The article also says a car was seen being towed from the 18 year old suspect’s home with “ F*** Society” painted on it. Clearly two very troubled boys. I hope from this we can somehow learn new warning signs as the general concensus is no-one suspected (at least one of) them would ever do something like this. It’s heartbreaking.


1 student dead, 8 hurt in Highlands Ranch school shooting
 
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RSBM ....... but also knew school life was changed forever that day.


And another parent Steve Holley tweeted that he had been here before.
"This is the third time I've had to pick up my boys from school due to a lockdown," he wrote.

This is believed to be the 115th mass shooting in the US in 2019.

Teenager killed in US school shooting

What do you think the headspace of these student shooters is? Are they starting to think it is 'okay' to do? Does anyone know what the punishments have been for previous student shooters?
 
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It goes without saying that one school shooting is too many. This article though, provides a great deal of perspective in regards to the perception that schools are less safe than they were in the past. It was written shortly after the Parkland shooting.

They are a lot safer than they were in the 90s.

Four times the number of children were killed in schools in the early 1990s than today, Fox said.

“There is not an epidemic of school shootings,” he said, adding that more kids are killed each year from pool drownings or bicycle accidents. There are around 55 million school children in the United States, and on average over the past 25 years, about 10 students per year were killed by gunfire at school, according to Fox and
Fridel’s research.

Mass murders occur between 20 and 30 times per year, and about one of those incidents on average takes place at a school.

Their research also finds that shooting incidents involving students have been declining since the 1990s.

“The thing to remember is that these are extremely rare events, and no matter what you can come up with to prevent it, the shooter will have a workaround,” Fox said.


https://news.northeastern.edu/2018/...e-safest-places-for-children-researcher-says/
 
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It goes without saying that one school shooting is too many. This article though, provides a great deal of perspective in regards to the perception that schools are less safe than they were in the past. It was written shortly after the Parkland shooting.

They are a lot safer than they were in the 90s.

Four times the number of children were killed in schools in the early 1990s than today, Fox said.

“There is not an epidemic of school shootings,” he said, adding that more kids are killed each year from pool drownings or bicycle accidents. There are around 55 million school children in the United States, and on average over the past 25 years, about 10 students per year were killed by gunfire at school, according to Fox and
Fridel’s research.

Mass murders occur between 20 and 30 times per year, and about one of those incidents on average takes place at a school.

Their research also finds that shooting incidents involving students have been declining since the 1990s.

“The thing to remember is that these are extremely rare events, and no matter what you can come up with to prevent it, the shooter will have a workaround,” Fox said.


https://news.northeastern.edu/2018/...e-safest-places-for-children-researcher-says/

There is a research organisation that tracks shootings in schools in the US (they actually track shootings of any children). As well as the deceased, they also track the injured, and have looked at the effect of shootings on children.


"From 2013 to 2018, Everytown identified 405 incidents of gunfire on school grounds. Of these, 260 occurred on the grounds of an elementary, middle, or high school, resulting in 109 deaths and 219 injuries.

Mass shootings also are imposing an unknown amount of trauma on a generation of students"
https://everytownresearch.org/repor...-shootings-end-gun-violence-american-schools/
 
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There is a research organisation that tracks shootings in schools in the US (they actually track shootings of any children). As well as the deceased, they also track the injured, and have looked at the effect of shootings on children.


"From 2013 to 2018, Everytown identified 405 incidents of gunfire on school grounds. Of these, 260 occurred on the grounds of an elementary, middle, or high school, resulting in 109 deaths and 219 injuries.

Mass shootings also are imposing an unknown amount of trauma on a generation of students"
https://everytownresearch.org/repor...-shootings-end-gun-violence-american-schools/

Yeah, they’ve come under heavy criticism for inflating the numbers.

Everytown has long inflated its total by including incidents of gunfire that are not really school shootings. Take, for example, what it counted as the year’s first: On the afternoon of Jan. 3, a 31-year-old man who had parked outside a Michigan elementary school called police to say he was armed and suicidal. Several hours later, he killed himself. The school, however, had been closed for seven months. There were no teachers. There were no students.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.washingtonpost.com/local/no-there-havent-been-18-school-shooting-in-2018-that-number-is-flat-wrong/2018/02/15/65b6cf72-1264-11e8-8ea1-c1d91fcec3fe_story.html?outputType=amp
 
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It goes without saying that one school shooting is too many. This article though, provides a great deal of perspective in regards to the perception that schools are less safe than they were in the past. It was written shortly after the Parkland shooting.

They are a lot safer than they were in the 90s.

Four times the number of children were killed in schools in the early 1990s than today, Fox said.

“There is not an epidemic of school shootings,” he said, adding that more kids are killed each year from pool drownings or bicycle accidents. There are around 55 million school children in the United States, and on average over the past 25 years, about 10 students per year were killed by gunfire at school, according to Fox and
Fridel’s research.

Mass murders occur between 20 and 30 times per year, and about one of those incidents on average takes place at a school.

Their research also finds that shooting incidents involving students have been declining since the 1990s.

“The thing to remember is that these are extremely rare events, and no matter what you can come up with to prevent it, the shooter will have a workaround,” Fox said.


https://news.northeastern.edu/2018/...e-safest-places-for-children-researcher-says/
Thanks for this. Great article! IMO internet, social media and 24 hour news can really skew perspective on a number of things, amd school shooting are a great example. They are absolutely terrifying and if I had kids I’d be so tempted to home school just to keep them safe. But the article reminded me of how plane crash coverage makes many people afraid to fly even tho it’s safer than driving.

And thanks to social media now any whack-job can find groups of like-minded whack-jobs that make them think their twisted views are normal— if not out and out heroic.
Being a kid these days is so different than when I was growing up. We had so much less scary stuff thrown at us every day ....
 
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The impact of a spree shooting like this one goes far beyond just the death toll. The psychological effects on the survivors who saw or heard their friends get shot can be devastating.
 
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The impact of a spree shooting like this one goes far beyond just the death toll. The psychological effects on the survivors who saw or heard their friends get shot can be devastating.

So true. And just a week or so ago was the shooting at the synagogue. I don't know, but it seems like each week, there is some sort of "mass shooting" by a random gun toting character.

I am not sure if society is more violent, or what the reason is for these occurrences. But it does add to a general sense of being unsettled. BTW, I work in a building with two fulltime armed security guards, people have to walk through a metal detector, and all belongings are screened as well.

This is part of the new "normal" in the United States.
 
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The impact of a spree shooting like this one goes far beyond just the death toll. The psychological effects on the survivors who saw or heard their friends get shot can be devastating.

Yes, I agree.
And that is a heck of a lot of children, according to this Washington Post article.


The children impacted grew with each round of reporting: from 135,000 students in at least 164 primary and secondary schools to more than 187,000 on 193 campuses.

Since March, The Post has taken a closer look at states with fewer local news sources and searched more deeply for less visible public suicides and accidents that led to injury.

The count now stands at more than 228,000 children at 234 schools.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/local/school-shootings-database/?utm_term=.bf1901eb5357
 
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As in many of these shootings, the teens were not on anyone's radar. Pretty obvious they figured out how to get the guns into the school.

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ABC affiliate Denver7 has released some info on the alledged second shooter. Because he is a juvenile they are not giving his name but say he is a 17 year old mid-transition transgender male . They also say at least one of the suspects has been in therapy and involved with legal & illegal drugs, though they are not saying which one.

The article also says a car was seen being towed from the 18 year old suspect’s home with “ F*** Society” painted on it. Clearly two very troubled boys. I hope from this we can somehow learn new warning signs as the general concensus is no-one suspected (at least one of) them would ever do something like this. It’s heartbreaking.


1 student dead, 8 hurt in Highlands Ranch school shooting

Parents need to go to jail IMO.
 
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