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James Craig Trial — LIVE UPDATEWeek 1, July 17.
I'll be covering the James Craig Trial directly from court.
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I'll be covering the James Craig Trial directly from court.
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For those interested or may have missed the court documents/filings in the case of CO v James Craig.
2023CR664 - People of the State of Colorado v. James Craig
2023CR664 - People of the State of Colorado v. James Craig
People of the State of Colorado v. James Craig
- 23CR664 Affidavit Craig James Toliver Redacted.pdf (PDF, 5.07 MB)
- Apr 18, 2025
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23CR664 DA-90 Amended Complaint and Information.pdf (PDF, 119.62 KB) - Apr 18, 2025
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23CR664 DA-89 Notice of Amended Complaint and Information.pdf (PDF, 180.50 KB) - Jun 18, 2025
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23CR664 - Craig (EMC Order) 06.18.25.pdf (PDF, 224.42 KB)
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So Amy Padden is NOT one the prosecutors.... will change my notes. Thanks!
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Amy Padden is the District Attorney for the entire 18th Judicial District.
The Colorado couple’s marital strife was laid bare in Tuesday’s opening remarks. Prosecutors pointed to his relationship with a Texas orthodontist, Dr. Karin Cain, as the motivation for the murder. Cain has not returned Fox News Digital’s requests for comment. The defense said the 47-year-old husband had extramarital affairs throughout the couple’s marriage.
“Karin Cain was just like the others. This wasn’t some new obsession,” Whitham said.
nypost.com
Jul 16
Along with a series of affairs, Craig also allegedly used the website Seeking.com, advertising himself as “Jim and Waffles” and claiming a net worth of $10 million in search of “sugar babies.”
“Karin Cain was just like the others. This wasn’t some new obsession,” Whitham said.
James Craig, dentist on trial for wife’s poison murder, claims victim was emotionally manipulative, unstable
Dr. James Toliver Craig, 47, is charged with first-degree murder in the March 2023 death of his wife, Angela Craig, a 43-year-old mother of six.
nypost.com
Jul 16
Along with a series of affairs, Craig also allegedly used the website Seeking.com, advertising himself as “Jim and Waffles” and claiming a net worth of $10 million in search of “sugar babies.”
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Court has been dragging this morning -- several lengthy sidebars -- perhaps over Exhibits and/or what the defense wants suppressed today such as the usage form Craig supplied for ordering "potassium cyanide powder," and use of a gmail address-- red flags for the product shipper.
I wasn't aware the Jurors could ask questions here!
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James Craig Trial — ORDER VS. APPROVAL
Juror asks: What’s the difference between Exhibits 84 and 114?
Rodriguez explains:
• 84 = Customer’s order request confirmation — not yet approved.
• 114 = Final order acknowledgment — means it's approved and processed.
No follow-ups. Witness excused.
11:20 AM · Jul 17, 2025
I wasn't aware the Jurors could ask questions here!
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James Craig Trial — ORDER VS. APPROVAL
Juror asks: What’s the difference between Exhibits 84 and 114?
Rodriguez explains:
• 84 = Customer’s order request confirmation — not yet approved.
• 114 = Final order acknowledgment — means it's approved and processed.
No follow-ups. Witness excused.
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The Colorado couple’s marital strife was laid bare in Tuesday’s opening remarks. Prosecutors pointed to his relationship with a Texas orthodontist, Dr. Karin Cain, as the motivation for the murder. Cain has not returned Fox News Digital’s requests for comment. The defense said the 47-year-old husband had extramarital affairs throughout the couple’s marriage.
“Karin Cain was just like the others. This wasn’t some new obsession,” Whitham said.
James Craig, dentist on trial for wife’s poison murder, claims victim was emotionally manipulative, unstable
Dr. James Toliver Craig, 47, is charged with first-degree murder in the March 2023 death of his wife, Angela Craig, a 43-year-old mother of six.
Jul 16
Along with a series of affairs, Craig also allegedly used the website Seeking.com, advertising himself as “Jim and Waffles” and claiming a net worth of $10 million in search of “sugar babies.”
Is "Waffles" a dog?
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Cannot say but I doubt "sugar babies" are dogs.
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I don't think so. From the AA, we know his email on his phone was determined as [email protected], and [email protected] was a new email he created and started using on Feb 27, 2023. This gmail was used for his incriminating Google searches, Chemical Supplier searches, Amazon purchases, and the lethal purchase of potassium cyanide powder from Midland Scientific.
It seems he used the same gmail for his dating profile user name.
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I don't think so. From the AA, we know his email on his phone was determined as [email protected], and [email protected] was a new email he created and started using on Feb 27, 2023. This gmail was used for his incriminating Google searches, Chemical Supplier searches, Amazon purchases, and the lethal purchase of potassium cyanide powder from Midland Scientific.
It seems he used the same gmail for his dating profile user name.
Hence my question.
Dating profile/photo with a dog is a common gimmick. Curious if they have a family pet that he exploited for, to lure in the ladies.
Waffles.
Whatever, sleazy.
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Well for awhile people were obsessed with Chicken and Waffles as a huge food trend.
Perhaps “ Jim “ is a synonym for “ Chicken “ ? Lol
Just kidding
One of Angela and James Craig’s children has taken the stand to testify.
Guess we will have to wait until later for a more detailed report from kdvr
Guess we will have to wait until later for a more detailed report from kdvr
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If my spouse wanted Cyanide to commit suicide, I would make an appointment for both of us to see a therapist. And with their religious beliefs, why didn't JC contact the Bishop for support for his spouse?
The last thing I would do is order the poison. That makes absolutely no sense at all. Suicide is against the beliefs of the LDS church, as it is considered "murder". So, if Angela was religious, as evidenced by her recent trip to Salt Lake City, UT to do genealogy work, I find it difficult that Angela was suicidal. Wouldn't she have reached out to her sister for support? She spoke with her sister daily.
Angela had six children to care for, I believe if she was so depressed to be suicidal, she probably would have gone to a doctor for antidepressant medication. Also, Angela was upset on the video with JC, angry that he told the hospital providers that she was suicidal.
The last thing I would do is order the poison. That makes absolutely no sense at all. Suicide is against the beliefs of the LDS church, as it is considered "murder". So, if Angela was religious, as evidenced by her recent trip to Salt Lake City, UT to do genealogy work, I find it difficult that Angela was suicidal. Wouldn't she have reached out to her sister for support? She spoke with her sister daily.
Angela had six children to care for, I believe if she was so depressed to be suicidal, she probably would have gone to a doctor for antidepressant medication. Also, Angela was upset on the video with JC, angry that he told the hospital providers that she was suicidal.
Why was James investigated?
According to the affidavit, the police were tipped off by Craig's business partner, Ryan Redfearn.
Redfearn and his wife Michelle were also friends with the couple. They were on their way to visit Angela in the hospital on March 15 when Ryan got a concerned call from one of his office managers.
She said had been contacted by another office manager, Caitlin Romero, who happened to be working late on the night of March 6, when Angela first got sick. Romero told her boss — and later investigators — that she saw Craig sitting at a computer in one of the exam rooms with the lights off, which she said was odd because he had his own office and computer.
Romero said about 30 minutes after Craig left, he texted her saying he would be receiving a personal package and she should not open it. A package arrived on March 13, and Romero saw that a different employee had already opened it. As she went to seal the package back up and put it in James' office, she looked inside and saw a bio-hazard sticker and a circular canister labeled "Potassium Cyanide."
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Of course, Angela wasn't suicidal, and everything JC did was here showed consciousness of guilt-- especially the manipulation of his very own child from jail to acquire a computer and manufacture evidence to help his case!
JC is a despicable human and a killer. MOO
I too agree that religions should not insist on staying married and working it out. I will say that if the LDS bishop is decent they no longer say to stay. I have been divorced twice and my bishop didn't make me stay or even ask me to work it out when they saw how mentally abusive my ex was.
The LDS church no longer views suicide as murder; however, they also do not discourage divorce in cases like this. I agree with you completely that he should have gone to his bishop if she was suicidal and they would have helped to pay for therapy.
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Two Daughters Testify:
“SHE WAS AWESOME”Miriam breaks down recalling her mom:“She was awesome. A really good mom… a little crazy, but she loved us more than anything.”Angela loved woodworking, animals (despite allergies), and their “zoo” of pets.
2:15 PM · Jul 17, 2025
“WE TALKED EVERY DAY”Miriam says Angela was her best friend.They texted constantly — memes, Zillow listings, daily life.“She’d send me castles in Europe and say, ‘We should live here.’”They called each other nearly every day. “Sometimes more than once.”
2:15 PM · Jul 17, 2025
“SHE WAS NOT DEPRESSED”Miriam firmly denies any signs of depression.“She was active, doing yoga, riding her bike. She wanted to be a grandma.”“She talked about fixing up a house together.”“We were making plans.”Her voice cracked. The courtroom listened in silence.
2:16 PM · Jul 17, 2025
“SHE JUST WANTED TO COME HOME”Miriam says Angela Craig never knew what was wrong with her.“She said she felt dizzy… heavy… like her body was hard to move.”Miriam talked to her daily:“She was frustrated. She wanted her own bed. She wanted to be with her girls.”
2:18 PM · Jul 17, 2025
AUTOPSY CONFLICTAfter Angela was declared brain dead, Miriam asked her father if an autopsy would be done.James Craig told her:“No. I didn’t order one. If they couldn’t figure it out while she was alive, they shouldn’t poke around now.”Miriam replied:“But what if something happens to Violet? Wouldn’t you want to know?”Craig said nothing.
2:18 PM · Jul 17, 2025
DIVORCE? NEVER MENTIONED.Miriam says during her December 2022 visit, James never mentioned anything about divorce.They spent Christmas at home, with no signs that her parents were separating.The defense previously suggested marital trouble — but Miriam’s testimony suggests otherwise.
2:18 PM · Jul 17, 2025
“I TALKED TO HER EVERY DAY” Defense begins cross:
“Hi, Miriam. You doing okay?”
“No, I’m okay. Let’s keep going.” Miriam had moved out ~1.5 years before her mom died.
Lived in Boise with relatives, then Rexburg. Last time she was home: Christmas 2022. Saw her mom 7–8 times between 2021–2023. “Long drive. Like 11 or 12 hours… I-80, so it sucks.”
2:32 PM · Jul 17, 2025
“SHE WORKED OUT A LOT”
Her mom exercised at home: stationary bike, yoga, Pilates
Physically, “she was good.”
Mentally? Miriam pushed back.Defense : “You told us she struggled mentally.”Miriam: “She had struggles. But not a mental illness.”“She was private. I wish she shared more.”
2:32 PM · Jul 17, 2025
“SHE HAD HER DEMONS
”Miriam on her mom’s inner life:• Trauma from childhood• Strained relationship with her dad• “Big crazy family… we loved them”• “She struggled, like everyone else”• “She never wanted to burden us”
“She was always a mom first… and a fantastic one.”
2:35 PM · Jul 17, 2025
“SHE HAD WEIRD PROBLEMS”
“Weird problems doctors couldn’t figure out”
Allergies explained a lot—“That’s why we couldn’t have a cat”
Diabetes during pregnancy
“It was never as confusing as last time”
Also:• Mom did woodworking• Built shelves, mantles, closets• Was deeply religious (LDS/Mormon)
2:36 PM · Jul 17, 2025
“THE AFFECTION STOPPED
”Cross shifts to 2017:
“They used to hug and kiss when they came home”
“By 2017, it all stopped.”
And the yelling?
Miriam:
“My room was under theirs. There was a vent…
2:37 PM · Jul 17, 2025
"THEY WEREN'T MOM AND DAD ANYMORE
"Miriam testifies that by 2017, her parents had emotionally checked out.
“They weren’t really present as Mom and Dad.”
She and her older siblings had to care for the “littles.”
She recalls her father packing a suitcase and leaving the house for days.
She was 14. “It was so bad, I thought they might get divorced.”
2:38 PM · Jul 17, 2025
"COUNSELING CHANGED HIM"
Miriam confirms her parents attended counseling in 2017.
She saw changes:
“My dad made a more noticeable change than my mom did.
”He became more present as a father.“
I wouldn’t say better husband, but he was more pleasurable to be around.
”When asked if she told the DA that her mom stayed the same, she replies:“
I don’t remember. If it says that, I’ll take your word for it.”
2:38 PM · Jul 17, 2025
RELIGION AND REALITY
Redirect focuses on Miriam’s faith.
She confirms she was raised Mormon (LDS) and still is:
“I’ve had points where I questioned… but I’m happiest when I’m close to God.
”Does divorce happen in the Church? Yes.
Would her mom have known that?
“Yes.”
2:39 PM · Jul 17, 2025
"NOT A MOM WHO'D GIVE UP"
Defense asks whether Miriam ever thought her mom might hurt herself.
She doesn’t hesitate:
“No.”
Not even to take a reckless risk?
“No. Not with girls still at home.”
She adds, with finality:
“She loved being a mom.”
2:40 PM · Jul 17, 2025
COURT TAKES RECESS
Judge calls an afternoon break following Miriam’s redirect.
2:41 PM · Jul 17, 2025
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“SHE WAS AWESOME”Miriam breaks down recalling her mom:“She was awesome. A really good mom… a little crazy, but she loved us more than anything.”Angela loved woodworking, animals (despite allergies), and their “zoo” of pets.
2:15 PM · Jul 17, 2025
“WE TALKED EVERY DAY”Miriam says Angela was her best friend.They texted constantly — memes, Zillow listings, daily life.“She’d send me castles in Europe and say, ‘We should live here.’”They called each other nearly every day. “Sometimes more than once.”
2:15 PM · Jul 17, 2025
“SHE WAS NOT DEPRESSED”Miriam firmly denies any signs of depression.“She was active, doing yoga, riding her bike. She wanted to be a grandma.”“She talked about fixing up a house together.”“We were making plans.”Her voice cracked. The courtroom listened in silence.
2:16 PM · Jul 17, 2025
“SHE JUST WANTED TO COME HOME”Miriam says Angela Craig never knew what was wrong with her.“She said she felt dizzy… heavy… like her body was hard to move.”Miriam talked to her daily:“She was frustrated. She wanted her own bed. She wanted to be with her girls.”
2:18 PM · Jul 17, 2025
AUTOPSY CONFLICTAfter Angela was declared brain dead, Miriam asked her father if an autopsy would be done.James Craig told her:“No. I didn’t order one. If they couldn’t figure it out while she was alive, they shouldn’t poke around now.”Miriam replied:“But what if something happens to Violet? Wouldn’t you want to know?”Craig said nothing.
2:18 PM · Jul 17, 2025
DIVORCE? NEVER MENTIONED.Miriam says during her December 2022 visit, James never mentioned anything about divorce.They spent Christmas at home, with no signs that her parents were separating.The defense previously suggested marital trouble — but Miriam’s testimony suggests otherwise.
2:18 PM · Jul 17, 2025
“I TALKED TO HER EVERY DAY” Defense begins cross:
“Hi, Miriam. You doing okay?”
“No, I’m okay. Let’s keep going.” Miriam had moved out ~1.5 years before her mom died.
Lived in Boise with relatives, then Rexburg. Last time she was home: Christmas 2022. Saw her mom 7–8 times between 2021–2023. “Long drive. Like 11 or 12 hours… I-80, so it sucks.”
2:32 PM · Jul 17, 2025
“SHE WORKED OUT A LOT”
Her mom exercised at home: stationary bike, yoga, Pilates
Physically, “she was good.”
Mentally? Miriam pushed back.Defense : “You told us she struggled mentally.”Miriam: “She had struggles. But not a mental illness.”“She was private. I wish she shared more.”
2:32 PM · Jul 17, 2025
“SHE HAD HER DEMONS
”Miriam on her mom’s inner life:• Trauma from childhood• Strained relationship with her dad• “Big crazy family… we loved them”• “She struggled, like everyone else”• “She never wanted to burden us”
“She was always a mom first… and a fantastic one.”
2:35 PM · Jul 17, 2025
“SHE HAD WEIRD PROBLEMS”
“Weird problems doctors couldn’t figure out”
Allergies explained a lot—“That’s why we couldn’t have a cat”
Diabetes during pregnancy
“It was never as confusing as last time”
Also:• Mom did woodworking• Built shelves, mantles, closets• Was deeply religious (LDS/Mormon)
2:36 PM · Jul 17, 2025
“THE AFFECTION STOPPED
”Cross shifts to 2017:
“They used to hug and kiss when they came home”
“By 2017, it all stopped.”
And the yelling?
Miriam:
“My room was under theirs. There was a vent…
2:37 PM · Jul 17, 2025
"THEY WEREN'T MOM AND DAD ANYMORE
"Miriam testifies that by 2017, her parents had emotionally checked out.
“They weren’t really present as Mom and Dad.”
She and her older siblings had to care for the “littles.”
She recalls her father packing a suitcase and leaving the house for days.
She was 14. “It was so bad, I thought they might get divorced.”
2:38 PM · Jul 17, 2025
"COUNSELING CHANGED HIM"
Miriam confirms her parents attended counseling in 2017.
She saw changes:
“My dad made a more noticeable change than my mom did.
”He became more present as a father.“
I wouldn’t say better husband, but he was more pleasurable to be around.
”When asked if she told the DA that her mom stayed the same, she replies:“
I don’t remember. If it says that, I’ll take your word for it.”
2:38 PM · Jul 17, 2025
RELIGION AND REALITY
Redirect focuses on Miriam’s faith.
She confirms she was raised Mormon (LDS) and still is:
“I’ve had points where I questioned… but I’m happiest when I’m close to God.
”Does divorce happen in the Church? Yes.
Would her mom have known that?
“Yes.”
2:39 PM · Jul 17, 2025
"NOT A MOM WHO'D GIVE UP"
Defense asks whether Miriam ever thought her mom might hurt herself.
She doesn’t hesitate:
“No.”
Not even to take a reckless risk?
“No. Not with girls still at home.”
She adds, with finality:
“She loved being a mom.”
2:40 PM · Jul 17, 2025
COURT TAKES RECESS
Judge calls an afternoon break following Miriam’s redirect.
2:41 PM · Jul 17, 2025
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