Found Deceased CO - Dylan Nicholas Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 Nov 2012 *father arrested* #2

[Warwick7]

Maybe all of this has been said, a million times, but to reiterate:

I believe that MR stayed up all night after murdering Dylan, engaged in disposing of Dylan and all of his belongings, cleaning up the crime scene (wherever that was), and was still "going" on adrenaline (like the Energizer Killer Bunny) in the morning to be able to complete all of his "errands."

He then returned home to sleep ("crash"). He did NOT see Dylan the morning of 11/19 -- at least, not alive. He was already dead. (IMO)

After his slumber, he emerged, to "look" for Dylan, late in the afternoon. He blocked Elaine so that she couldn't speak directly to MR. THAT is the most egregious, callous and heinous act, short of murder, of which he is also guilty.

He then went home to have another drink (IMO).

MR blocked Elaine?

 

[Warwick7]

Dr Phil:

"ER:
When I found out Dylan was missing, my first gut reaction was: Mark! Dylan texted me the night that he arrived where his dad lives and that was the last time I heard from him – 7:06 p.m. He didn’t like spending time up at his dad’s cabin because it was so isolated. Monday the 19th Mark texted me and asked me if I had heard from Dylan. It was very disconcerting that I was 6 hours away and he’s asking me that question. Apparently, when he got home at 11:30 and Dylan wasn’t there, he decided to take a nap. Mark’s facts are grossly incorrect about everything. I never spoke with a lawyer. I do believe Mark has something to do with Dylan’s disappearance. I do believe he knows more. He’s done everything other than look for Dylan, and that’s what makes me suspicious. I have more concern over my lost dog than he has over his lost child. He wanted control over all of us. The story that he’s providing is not consistent with who Dylan is. Dylan absolutely did not run away. He had nothing to run away from. Dylan was a texter. It doesn’t make sense that he stopped texting that night. If Dylan was just going out to see his friends that day, he wouldn’t have taken all of his belongings. None of his belongings have been found. Mark talks about his backpack and a fishing pole. Dylan is NOT a big fisherperson. He didn’t even know how to thread his own line. Dylan was not watching Nickolodeon. Dylan watched MTV. He doesn’t know his kid well enough to make up a good lie. I believe Mark was the last person to see Dylan."

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[alexwood]

MR blocked Elaine?

Yes. He blocked her so that she couldn't call him. She got his previous text about "Have you seen Dylan?" Like any mother, she freaked. She didn't want to text -- wanted to speak on the phone to him. Couldn't do it. That I remember. It frosted me! I don't have a link.

 

[Warwick7]

Yes. He blocked her so that she couldn't call him. She got his previous text about "Have you seen Dylan?" Like any mother, she freaked. She didn't want to text -- wanted to speak on the phone to him. Couldn't do it. That I remember. It frosted me! I don't have a link.

I found the link.
Its dated February 26, 2013.

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[asyousay]

I found the link.

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R: So you went to run errands. Were you going to take him with you to run errands?

M: Well, there was some discussion he had with me the night before about leaving with me so I could drop him off in the Bayfield are with one of his friends that had been trying to text him or that he had been communicating with. As he had indicated to me he had been up until 4 o'clock in the morning the night before, he was tired from being in the airport most of the day in his travel from Colorado Springs to Durango. I laughed at him kind of jokingly because I know him. If he ain't got to get up, he's not likely to get up. And he's not the type of kid who's going to get up at 6:30 if he doesn't have to. But you know, his friends are important and I know they're important me. So there was a possibility but it doesn't surprise me he elected to not get up when I left. And when I left, he acknowledged everything I was saying to him and that I would be back. He knew when I came back that I would be working on getting him down to his friends. And that's part of the struggle we all have, you know, what happened to him between the time I left and when I got back. And that's what nobody seems to be able to answer

What a load of crap this is


We have all seen these texts - Dylan was absolutely adamant in escaping Mark as soon as humanly possible. He was the one who wanted to spend the first night with Ryan and it was Mark who told him he couldn’t.

 

[alexwood]

I found the link.
Its dated February 26, 2013.

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Thank you Warwick. I first remember Elaine being interviewed on Tricia's True Crime Radio. I believe that is where she described how MR blocked her calls to his cell phone after he notified her that he didn't know where Dylan was and "wondered" if Elaine knew where he was. It's very hard to access those old radio shows of Tricia's. It was Blog Talk Radio, then I Heart Radio . . . But I remember being absolutely outraged when she spoke about MR so callously blocking her.

Bye Bye MR. We won't miss you one bit! By the way, I'm saving up my potato peelings to send to you in prison so you can make your own hooch.

 

[Warwick7]

Here is more on the time line. This is Tricia's interview with MR.

"TG:
Okay, and uh… so you go home, and you’re watching movies. What else are you doing?

60:35
MR:
Well, I think it’s important to understand that the drive between Durango and the drive to the area in which I live is about a 45 minute ride, and the majority of that time we don’t have cell phone coverage, so it’s very difficult, if possible at all, to have any kind of cell phone communication. Now obviously we were eating our dinner that we had purchased at McDonalds for a portion of that particular ride, but it wasn’t until we got to the lake area that Dylan was able to start communicating with his friends via the texting. So he’s busy texting his friends um…making arrangements, because obviously we weren’t conversing with each other and you know one of the things he had asked me was could he go to his friends house. Well, it’s Sunday night, you know it’s 7:30 8:00 by that time. I personally don’t feel like it’s appropriate to spend time at your friend’s house given the fact that it’s Sunday night and it’s getting later in the evening, and so I told him that I didn’t think that that was necessary. So, I’m assuming, based on the things that have come out, that the conversation with Dylan and his friends had everything to do with Dylan making plans to be able to get with his friends as early as possible the next day."

June 11, 2013

BBM

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[alexwood]

Here is more on the time line. This is Tricia's interview with MR.

"TG:
Okay, and uh… so you go home, and you’re watching movies. What else are you doing?

60:35
MR:
Well, I think it’s important to understand that the drive between Durango and the drive to the area in which I live is about a 45 minute ride, and the majority of that time we don’t have cell phone coverage, so it’s very difficult, if possible at all, to have any kind of cell phone communication. Now obviously we were eating our dinner that we had purchased at McDonalds for a portion of that particular ride, but it wasn’t until we got to the lake area that Dylan was able to start communicating with his friends via the texting. So he’s busy texting his friends um…making arrangements, because obviously we weren’t conversing with each other and you know one of the things he had asked me was could he go to his friends house. Well, it’s Sunday night, you know it’s 7:30 8:00 by that time. I personally don’t feel like it’s appropriate to spend time at your friend’s house given the fact that it’s Sunday night and it’s getting later in the evening, and so I told him that I didn’t think that that was necessary. So, I’m assuming, based on the things that have come out, that the conversation with Dylan and his friends had everything to do with Dylan making plans to be able to get with his friends as early as possible the next day."

June 11, 2013

BBM

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. . . and it is appropriate to pose in dubious garb, with a diaper?

MR -- the last bastion of gentility.

 

[katydid23]

I had forgotten his ex girlfriend the post-woman claimed she had seen him that day.

Excellent question!!

How convenient he and that thing of a girlfriend saw DR......
:/

Yes, and then others were reporting sightings of Dylan in town over the next few days, but it ended
up being a boy who looked just like him, sadly.

So even with those reports about Dylan being seen in town at a park with other boys, Mark didn't bother calling his phone to make sure.

 

[Warwick7]

July 2, 2021

Crime On Line

Dylan Redwine Crime Scene Photos: Bones, clothes & possible toe found in secluded area alleged killer dad is familiar with

 

[Warwick7]

Only if you haven't seen these yet, Dylan's skull.
:0(

Dylan Redwine Crime Scene Photos: Bones, clothes & possible toe found in secluded area alleged killer dad is familiar with

 

[katydid23]

What a load of crap this is

R: So you went to run errands. Were you going to take him with you to run errands?

M: Well, there was some discussion he had with me the night before about leaving with me so I could drop him off in the Bayfield are with one of his friends that had been trying to text him or that he had been communicating with. As he had indicated to me he had been up until 4 o'clock in the morning the night before, he was tired from being in the airport most of the day in his travel from Colorado Springs to Durango. I laughed at him kind of jokingly because I know him. If he ain't got to get up, he's not likely to get up. And he's not the type of kid who's going to get up at 6:30 if he doesn't have to. But you know, his friends are important and I know they're important me. So there was a possibility but it doesn't surprise me he elected to not get up when I left. And when I left, he acknowledged everything I was saying to him and that I would be back. He knew when I came back that I would be working on getting him down to his friends. And that's part of the struggle we all have, you know, what happened to him between the time I left and when I got back. And that's what nobody seems to be able to answer



We have all seen these texts - Dylan was absolutely adamant in escaping Mark as soon as humanly possible. He was the one who wanted to spend the first night with Ryan and it was Mark who told him he couldn’t.

Yes, that is a load of total BULL!

We know that Dylan and his good friend R Nava were texting about their plans for the next morning. Mark told D that he would drop him off at RN's early the next morning, around 6 or 7 am. They planned to go back to sleep then meet up with other friends at a park.

Dylan absolutely would have gotten up to ride into town--he had planned to go back to sleep when he got to Ryan's, so he wouldn't worry about getting up just for the 45 minute ride. And he was so excited about seeing his friends.

I really hope the jury can see through this BS story about him going fishing or hiking by himself, when he had good friends he was excited to go see. Like Elaine said, he cannot even tie his own line---he was not an avid fisherman. His friends wanted to go skateboarding and meet up with some girls---which would Dylan rather do?

Go hiking or fishing by himself---or go meet up with some teen girls he used to know?

Mark said D was up until 4 am---then why didn't he reply to his good friends texts at 9 ? He was texting about their plans for the next morning. Why would D ignore him if he was awake until 4 am?

 

[Warwick7]

What a load of crap this is


We have all seen these texts - Dylan was absolutely adamant in escaping Mark as soon as humanly possible. He was the one who wanted to spend the first night with Ryan and it was Mark who told him he couldn’t.

I had my husband read that part of the interview:

I am marking BBM what my husband questioned. He told me to read the words carefully. It says "trying."
That means not successful yet. Then notice Mark corrects himself quickly and says communicating.

(DR was dead already and his friend was trying to get a hold of him, which we knew about those two unanswered texts. Both of which were after 9pm. However, how did MR know this kid was "trying" to get a hold of Dylan? Because he was reading his phone after after Dylan died).

"R: So you went to run errands. Were you going to take him with you to run errands?

M: Well, there was some discussion he had with me the night before about leaving with me so I could drop him off in the Bayfield are with one of his friends that had been trying to text him or that he had been communicating with. As he had indicated to me he had been up until 4 o'clock in the morning the night before, he was tired from being in the airport most of the day in his travel from Colorado Springs to Durango. I laughed at him kind of jokingly because I know him. If he ain't got to get up, he's not likely to get up. And he's not the type of kid who's going to get up at 6:30 if he doesn't have to. But you know, his friends are important and I know they're important me. So there was a possibility but it doesn't surprise me he elected to not get up when I left. And when I left, he acknowledged everything I was saying to him and that I would be back. He knew when I came back that I would be working on getting him down to his friends. And that's part of the struggle we all have, you know, what happened to him between the time I left and when I got back. And that's what nobody seems to be able to answer."

 

[Seattle1]

Mark said D was up until 4 am---then why didn't he reply to his good friends texts at 9 ? He was texting about their plans for the next morning. Why would D ignore him if he was awake until 4 am?

^^ rsbm

I recall this was up at 4 AM the night before when Dylan was still at Elaine's home. MR used this as the reason why Dylan could not wake up early and leave with MR Monday morning because he wanted to sleep in. Dylan was allegedly too tired from the night before and also the plane trip.

 

[sleuther0192837465]

MR repeatedly uses the words “indicated” or “communicated” instead of using appropriate words such as “said”, “told”, or “tells” when he talks about trying to wake Dylan the morning of the 19th. He uses those particular words because Dylan was already deceased.
I think all of us knew, from the very beginning, that MR’s word choices were directly implicating himself in the disappearance of Dylan. He also says “you know” entirely too much. Yes, Mark, we DO KNOW….MOO

 

[katydid23]

MR repeatedly uses the words “indicated” or “communicated” instead of using appropriate words such as “said”, “told”, or “tells” when he talks about trying to wake Dylan the morning of the 19th. He uses those particular words because Dylan was already deceased.
I think all of us knew, from the very beginning, that MR’s word choices were directly implicating himself in the disappearance of Dylan. He also says “you know” entirely too much. Yes, Mark, we DO KNOW….MOO

I noticed that. For example:
"So there was a possibility but it doesn't surprise me he elected to not get up when I left."

And

"...he acknowledged everything I was saying to him..."


Why was he using such grandiose terms in his word salad?


I also noticed an odd wording :

" He knew when I came back that I would be working on getting him down to his friends."

He 'would be working on getting him down to his friends? ' Why not just say 'I'd give him a ride to town? '

'I would be working on' sounds like something that would be quite a struggle. Which of course it would have been, since he was already deceased and probably up on Middle Mountain somewhere...

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I noticed that. For example:
"So there was a possibility but it doesn't surprise me he elected to not get up when I left."

And

"...he acknowledged everything I was saying to him..."


Why was he using such grandiose terms in his word salad?


I also noticed an odd wording :

" He knew when I came back that I would be working on getting him down to his friends."

He 'would be working on getting him down to his friends? ' Why not just say 'I'd give him a ride to town? '

'I would be working on' sounds like something that would be quite a struggle. Which of course it would have been, since he was already deceased and probably up on Middle Mountain somewhere...

Some of Mark's comments are very subtle and others are very clear when he talks about Dylan.

I think the comment about "working" on getting Dylan to his friends is an unconscious admission that he could try to do it but it was impossible because Dylan was dead. JMO

 

[katydid23]

^^ rsbm

I recall this was up at 4 AM the night before when Dylan was still at Elaine's home. MR used this as the reason why Dylan could not wake up early and leave with MR Monday morning because he wanted to sleep in. Dylan was allegedly too tired from the night before and also the plane trip.

Ok thanks, that makes more sense. Of course Mark would find a way to blame Elaine---'Dylan was up too late and he didn't bring a warm coat, only a hoodie. ' Anything to criticise Elaine's parenting .

I think most 13 yr old boys like to under dress for the weather whenever possible. My son always wore shorts, even if it was raining. I gave up arguing about it and let him wear what he wanted.

 

[Niner]

Any "word" on the DA closing on Tuesday or Wednesday?

TIA!

 

[BUF]

Any "word" on the DA closing on Tuesday or Wednesday?

TIA!

That mention of them ending their case on Tuesday or Wed was the last I heard. I missed some of yesterday though. No court on Monday due to the holiday.