CO - Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 Nov 2012 - #2

[mijamawi]

I'm the product of fine southern parents. (southeastern Tennessee)
I remember my grandfather and older uncles using the term "that boy" when speaking of their sons/grandsons. It was a term of endearment usually used when the boy did something wrong.
I'm wondering if Dylan's father is using it in the same way.
Maybe in his heart he believes that Dylan really did runaway?
It's old fashion, but... this is a guy that chooses to live in the boondocks so to speak.

At this point I'm starting to wonder if maybe the father was simply lost on what exactly to do.
If this is an area where kids will hitchhike, it's probably the same type of place where it's inconceivable that something bad would happen.

Still catching up but wanted to respond to this. Yes, we are the same. Good 'ol Southerners! My husband and I lovingly refer to our boys as that boy, the boy, boy #1, boy #2, thing 1, thing 2 and even *gasp* that kid!!

 

[TexasCharm]

Yes, even the police said they are considering Dylan either a runaway or he has been abducted. Something has to be leading them in that direction, imo.

They would have to locate which lake he went to I would think. Are there more than one lake in the area?

I have no doubt whatsover by the length of time that has now passed they have verified his father's alibi. Running errands would actually be easy to trace back and they have said he has cooperated fully from the beginning. So Im sure he told them every place he had to go that morning and they have checked it out.

IMO

My problem with the alibi being the errands is that nobody heard from Dylan since early the evening before.. So there was almost 12 hours of .... time.

Of course, we don't know what LE has verified, or what they are thinking .. because they are being so tight lipped about the whole thing ...

Aggravating as heck for us .. but then, WHO ARE WE??? lol

imo

 

[Elley Mae]

Do you think it is some random pole? Or just "not Dylan's" ?

Everything combined does not add up to a 13 year old going fishing early in the morning.

probably random, I think that if it was his pole it would have made big news that he was at the lake alive. If I am not mistaken the dogs that "smelled" something at the lake were cadaver dogs.

 

[jjenny]

My problem with the alibi being the errands is that nobody heard from Dylan since early the evening before.. So there was almost 12 hours of .... time.

Of course, we don't know what LE has verified, or what they are thinking .. because they are being so tight lipped about the whole thing ...

Aggravating as heck for us .. but then, WHO ARE WE??? lol

imo

Yep. I was going to point out the same thing. If we are talking about alibis, it would have to included not just the time to run errands, but the time from which somebody last heard from Dylan to the time father reported him missing, even.

 

[TexasCharm]

Still catching up but wanted to respond to this. Yes, we are the same. Good 'ol Southerners! My husband and I lovingly refer to our boys as that boy, the boy, boy #1, boy #2, thing 1, thing 2 and even *gasp* that kid!!

Ours is sometimes the "Man-child" .. lol .. and don't forget "YOUR son" ...

 

[mijamawi]

Ours is sometimes the "Man-child" .. lol .. and don't forget "YOUR son" ...

Oh yes with a 12 year old, there's definitely a lot of YOUR son... My sister and I will say "YOUR mother....."

 

[TxLady2]

True but approximately 115 children go missing each year that were taken by complete strangers. That is over 2 children a week being abducted by strangers and we see the countless attempted abduction cases of children by strangers in the news just about everyday. Those children who are abducted by a stranger most of the time wind up dead within 72 hours.

When a child is reported missing though only 14% of the time was the parent involved when the child was later found murdered.

Around 400 children are murdered by their bio parent each year(31% bio dads-30% bio mothers), but most of those are not reported as missing children but children living in the home where parents pretend the child had an 'accident' and died. Most call 911 to report the 'accident' thinking they can cover up the abuse until an autopsy reveals it was no accident but a homicide.

The percentage lessens too when killed by a parent the older the child gets. Most children killed by parents or 5 years old or less.

IMO

Seems I recall that a lot of folks found things very odd about the mom in the Jessica Ridgeway case, as well. And some of the cases mentioned here have not been proven one way or the other. Haleigh Cummings, Hailey Dunn, to name two. The parents in the Jake Kimbley case have not been charged with murder yet. It's still being investigated. So if one wants to cite these cases as ones that the parent or SO were guilty, at least wait until they've been tried and convicted in court, wouldn't that be more fair??

 

[Elley Mae]

Dylan was on a court-ordered visit with his father over the Thanksgiving holiday. It was unclear who obtained the court order.

http://durangoherald.com/article/20121127/NEWS01/121129662/Search-changes-focus--

bbm

 

[jjenny]

Dylan was on a court-ordered visit with his father over the Thanksgiving holiday. It was unclear who obtained the court order.

http://durangoherald.com/article/20121127/NEWS01/121129662/Search-changes-focus--

bbm

Well who is going to obtain the court order except a father?
I don't think mother would need a court order if she wanted to send her son over there for Thanksgiving.

 

[PrayingForMissing]

oyyyy....:what:

http://www.durangoherald.com/articl...-vigil-tonight-in-Bayfield-for-missing-teen--

Wow. Dylan lives near us here in the Springs/Monument area. Praying for a miracle...

 

[CUCKOOHEAD]

Thank you, but that is not an answer to my question. I do however realize now that there are many more children that have disappeared than the ones I have followed here. I am speaking of HC, HD, AM, JR, JL, AD, CC, LI. These families have all been accused and I am sure there are more. jmo

If I understand you correctly you are asking about a parent/s being prosecuted when the child is still missing?

Jhessye Shockley

 

[Tennlyn]

Thank you for this post. My husband refers to our son as ' that boy' on a daily basis. I don't see it so much as 'any' boy like a previous poster said but more like ' everything' boy. THAT one right THERE, the only one that matters !

I love the way you put that!

My ex has always called our son "the boy". To paraphrase what you said so well, "THE only one THAT matters!" I hear "that boy" a lot around Tennessee. Linguistically, MR would fit right in to this community.

 

[nursebeeme]

welcome to websleuths CUCKOOHEAD! :cheer:

 

[TxLady2]

My problem with the alibi being the errands is that nobody heard from Dylan since early the evening before.. So there was almost 12 hours of .... time.

Of course, we don't know what LE has verified, or what they are thinking .. because they are being so tight lipped about the whole thing ...

Aggravating as heck for us .. but then, WHO ARE WE??? lol

imo

Didn't the dad say something about Dylan still being asleep when he left to run his errands? Or am I confusing it with something else? I guess I just want to know if he actually saw Dylan that morning, or if he is only assuming he was asleep.

I don't like to take sides in these cases, but the mom pointing fingers at him seems a little hinky to me. I think he showed more decency and restraint because he refused to badmouth her in public. IMO, this would be an excellent time to try to come together with the goal of finding your child, rather than trashing one another over past differences. JMO.

 

[TexasCharm]

Didn't the dad say something about Dylan still being asleep when he left to run his errands? Or am I confusing it with something else? I guess I just want to know if he actually saw Dylan that morning, or if he is only assuming he was asleep.

<snipped>.

I've heard: (read)

Dylan was up until 3 or 4am.
Dylan was asleep in the morning.
MR tried to wake him up and he wouldn't so he left him.

But I've also heard that he was last seen wearing .. clothes and tennis shoes and a cap ... ?? Who sleeps in that?

So I don't know what to think of it... *shrug*

 

[jjenny]

According to the statement by the police, father claims he last saw Dylan at 7:30 am.

"La Plata County sheriff's spokesman Dan Bender said Mark Redwine told investigators that he last saw his son Nov. 19 at about 7:30 a.m. before he left to run errands. He says that when he returned, the boy was gone.'

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57554794-504083/search-for-missing-colo-boy-suspended/

 

[jjenny]

Well, in our first post on this tread, we can read the description of what Dylan was wearing when he was last seen:
Which was shirt, shorts, tennis shoes and baseball cap.
So I find it kind of confusing as to why Dylan would apparently be sleeping wearing his tennis shoes and a baseball cap, considering police does state father told them he last saw Dylan at 7:30 am. Did he never go to bed and was sitting in front of the TV, or what? Or they are not using the description of what he was wearing when he was last seen?

 

[mck16]

If I understand you correctly you are asking about a parent/s being prosecuted when the child is still missing?

Jhessye Shockley

Not really. I was trying to point out (not very well) how we always jump to the immediate conclusion that it is one of the parents. And that it rarely turns out to be. After watching the interview last night Mark Redwine reminded me of Mark Lunsford. Everyone thought he was responsible for his daughter's disappearance but we all know how that turned out.

I just hate for people to begin immediately taking sides especially against the parents. They are innocent until proven guilty and if one thinks they are guilty everything they do seems suspicious. This is just my opinion.

 

[jjenny]

"We" don't always jump to anything. People have different ideas.
And sometimes parent is a guilty party. And sometimes parent isn't a guilty party. And a lot of times nothing can be proven, one way or the other. So based on past cases is not possible to conclude anything.

 

[mck16]

Well, in our first post on this tread, we can read the description of what Dylan was wearing when he was last seen:
Which was shirt, shorts, tennis shoes and baseball cap.
So I find it kind of confusing as to why Dylan would apparently be sleeping wearing his tennis shoes and a baseball cap, considering police does state father told them he last saw Dylan at 7:30 am. Did he never go to bed and was sitting in front of the TV, or what? Or they are not using the description of what he was wearing when he was last seen?

That was confusing to me also. It seems that for every report we get a conflicting one. Will we ever know the truth? jmo