CO - Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 Nov 2012 - #2

[ttcRider]

Maybe the plans were always for 6:30 am in the morning? He could have made those plans before he ever showed up at his father's.

Seems like he didnt want to spend any more time with his dad than he had to.. who goes to visit friends at 6:30am?? Sounds like a 'get me the heck outta here' if I've ever heard one.. :twocents:

 

[Ransom]

In putting this timeline together can I use the info that posters have transcribed from NG?


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transcript from tonight will be up later here: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/

 

[ICUDOUCME]

although I would think by the next morning the phone would of been charged.

 

[ttcRider]

An avid texter, would he have texted, played with and all that while on his flight(maybe even listened to music) because if so that could of caused the phone to go dead, there for it turned off, and was in need of charging.

You can still text while its plugged in charging

 

[LotusPawprint]

thanks for transcribing....i can't watch (my mom is watching reruns of law and order....:furious::furious

Is she watching SVU, CI, regular, the DVD's, short lived spin-offs LA, UK or Trial by Jury, on TNT, USA, NBC, Oxygen, or on DVR?

I can never seem to find L&O's...they're so rarely on. LOL

 

[katydid23]

I would be looking forever but the children he planned on meeting did state it in an interview that he was going to come that evening, but Dylan changed it to 630

I went back to the very first posts. [ 11/24/12] Here is one where Mom says:


"The last time anyone she knows talked to Dylan was Sunday night, Redwine said. Dylan and a friend from Bayfield were to meet early Monday, she said."



SO MOM KNEW IT WAS MONDAY MORNING PLAY DATE BACK IN THE BEGINNING.

http://www.durangoherald.com/article/20121123/NEWS01/121129810/-He-would-have-called

 

[Ransom]

so the plans were not changed.

Friends said it changed ... you know "those" friends.....
Dylan's friends in Bayfield told The Durango Herald that Dylan was supposed to meet them Sunday night but changed that to Monday morning. They told the newspaper they think Dylan hitchhiked to meet them and then was abducted.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...in-bayfield-area-for-missing-dylan-redwine-13

I've about had "it" with these friends.

 

[ICUDOUCME]

You can still text while its plugged in charging

True, can even call as long as you stay plugged in...but I believe it would of been easier just to use dad's phone(he does have a cell and landline)

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

In my head, which may be way off now, I had this timeline. Dylan is picked up by his dad, and he texts mom to say he has been picked up by Dad.

Then at some point he tells his dad that he wants to get dropped off at his friends that night. Understandably, Dad would say no, not tonight, you just got here. So Dylan would send off a huffy text, saying he cannot come tonight, so they agree on early the next morning.

We had heard from his friends that Dylan was planning to come on Sunday night, but changed plans to Monday morning. So I assumed that Dad had nixed those plans. And then Dylan texted them to change meeting them until Monday morning.

Now we are hearing that the last text he sent, according to LE, was to his mom, saying Dad had just picked him up.

So I guess he might have sent the other ones to friends first, maybe, but it does throw me off a bit. JMO

sounds plausible to me...

Regarding your last sentence (I don't know how to bold on iPad).....

could Dylan have made plans with his pals during the days prior to flying into his dad's area?

He was probably excited to see his friends... So he probably started making plans with them before he even left...

then right when dad picks him up at the airport, he tells dad he has plans to see his friends that very night....

and who knows what transpired between the two after that???

Just an idea....

 

[Ransom]

I went back to the very first posts. [ 11/24/12] Here is one where Mom says:


"The last time anyone she knows talked to Dylan was Sunday night, Redwine said. Dylan and a friend from Bayfield were to meet early Monday, she said."



SO MOM KNEW IT WAS MONDAY MORNING PLAY DATE BACK IN THE BEGINNING.

http://www.durangoherald.com/article/20121123/NEWS01/121129810/-He-would-have-called

"Friends" say different
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...in-bayfield-area-for-missing-dylan-redwine-13

 

[GateKeeper]

http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S2849330.shtml?cat=500

Investigators said, like most teenagers Dylan is a frequent Facebook, text message and phone user but hasn't shown any activity since the day he was reported missing

.

 

[raine1212]

My GD is 13 on weekends and holidays that phone is glued to her ear or fingers. Phone dies she will plug it in and keep going

 

[tiredblondy]

Here is a link to the media thread. read a couple of the latest articles and you should be good to go.

Also we did get confirmation from a police spokesperson on NG that there has been no activity on his cell phone since he texted his mom that he had arrived at the airport and Dad had picked him up. Dad has been refusing to communicate with Mom, not answering calls or texts, and speaking very little publicly.
When cops needed a scent article from Dylan for the search dogs, Dad had nothing to provide even though Dylan had spent the night at Dad's home. Not a sock, toothbrush, bedsheet or towel...nothing. Mom had to bring items with her for the dogs!


CO CO - Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 Nov 2012 *Media and Map Links* - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

:what: not even the bedding he slept on?

 

[katydid23]

I went back to the very first posts. [ 11/24/12] Here is one where Mom says:


"The last time anyone she knows talked to Dylan was Sunday night, Redwine said. Dylan and a friend from Bayfield were to meet early Monday, she said."



SO MOM KNEW IT WAS MONDAY MORNING PLAY DATE BACK IN THE BEGINNING.

http://www.durangoherald.com/article/20121123/NEWS01/121129810/-He-would-have-called

Quoting myself to compare statements:



Ryan Nava, 13, a friend of Dylan's said in a phone interview Saturday that Dylan was originally going to Bayfield to visit his friends Sunday night but then changed that to meet them early Monday morning.



OKAY----Here is the discrepancy. Mom said his plans with his friends were for Monday morning. The friend said they had plans for Sunday night, but Dylan changed the plans.

WHEN did he change the plans? And how did he do so?

 

[ICUDOUCME]

http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S2849330.shtml?cat=500

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Since the day he went missing, which was Monday not Sunday.

 

[LotusPawprint]

I think the answer is NO but have we ever heard dad asked directly about Dylan's phone?


I couldn't keep up with the posts during NG but someone asked if the last known activity on Dylan's cell being around 8pm meant it was used or pinged then. I dont know about pinged but it's safe to say it wasn't used or successfully used to communicate with anyone after 8pm.

Does dad know anything about the cell phone? Does he know where it was between bedtime on Sunday night and 7:30am Monday or thereabouts? Mom said early on that the cell and charger weren't at dad's house, is that something we can even trust since nothing is confirmable? Does LE know any of this info? Are they withholding from the public?

 

[Confusion]

I had come up with a theory, but I'm not sure if all of it fits anymore. I'll have to pay attention while I'm writing it in case I'm sure something has changed since I first thought of it.

I assumed that he had made plans from home to meet his friends after he got there Sunday night, but had to change them (either before leaving home or after he was picked up) because his father said he wouldn't take him that night - but had errands to run the next morning so he could drop him off when he left about 6:30 Monday morning. When his dad unsuccessfully tried to get him up for an hour, I can see him telling him, "I'm leaving now, and you'll just have to wait until I get home to go."

When Dylan got up later, he could have tried calling his friend/s to say he missed his ride, but got mad that he couldn't get a signal or the phone was dead and just decided to walk/hitchhike (just to show his dad he didn't need him!) he may or may not have grabbed his fishing pole to bring along, depending on what they had planned. It's possible that he first left because he knew there was no signal at the house, and tried to call after getting down the road a bit, and then discovered his phone was dead.

I guess what happened from that point would depend on who picked him up. It could have been someone passing through who took him with them; it could have been a neighbor who offered to take him to the friend's house but did something else; it could have been a neighbor who DID take him to the friend's house and something happened after he was there; it could have been a stranger who did either of the previous things. It could have been that something happened along the road (animal, car accident, other kind of mishap). He could have grabbed the pole to go fishing wherever it was that someone said was right by the house, and fell in, met someone untrustworthy, or any number of other things.

I'm still not so short of ideas that I'll start considering anyone in the family yet. Those ideas are usually easy for me to come up with, and I'd rather think of any alternatives first.

 

[Angelonline]

lots of stuff in this article.. here are a few snips







much more at link

http://www.durangoherald.com/articl...ment-says-missing-teenager-did-not-run-away--

Very interesting that one of his errands was to meet with his divorce lawyer. Especially since mom and dad have been divorced for quite some time. It looks like moms statement that dad is not happy about the current custody situation is true.

 

[katydid23]

"Friends" say different
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...in-bayfield-area-for-missing-dylan-redwine-13

These friends also say he hithchiked.

I wonder if any of the friends drove yet or had older brothers that drove?

Could these friends have picked him up early and then things went sideways?

 

[Ransom]

I went back to the very first posts. [ 11/24/12] Here is one where Mom says:


"The last time anyone she knows talked to Dylan was Sunday night, Redwine said. Dylan and a friend from Bayfield were to meet early Monday, she said."



SO MOM KNEW IT WAS MONDAY MORNING PLAY DATE BACK IN THE BEGINNING.

http://www.durangoherald.com/article/20121123/NEWS01/121129810/-He-would-have-called

Maybe a wrong link, because your link does not take me to the QUOTE. Weird.