CO - Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 Nov 2012 - #2

[Darcyline]

Thanks for the information everyone. I hope this search brings up some sort of resolution.


Dad's comment doesn't make sense to me even reading it in the context of being in response to Mom's comments. So...she is making his behavior more than it needs to be? Or his desire to have visitation with Dylan when he usually doesn't? It would make more sense to me if he said the allegations were untrue or she is misunderstanding something or has it wrong. Not "more than it needs to be"

 

[nursebeeme]

In an email sent out on Monday by Lewis-Palmer School District 38 to parents of LPMS students, they are urged that if any students have heard from Dylan or have any information to contact authorities immediately.http://www.ourcoloradonews.com/trila...a4bcf887a.html

Interesting that it's not urging them to be careful as a child abductor could be in the area ....

imo

I have *rarely* seen that happen even when there was in fact a child abductor on the loose. In the Jessica Ridgeway case they only did it after her remains were found.

 

[Confusion]

Thanks for the information everyone. I hope this search brings up some sort of resolution.


Dad's comment doesn't make sense to me even reading it in the context of being in response to Mom's comments. So...she is making his behavior more than it needs to be? Or his desire to have visitation with Dylan when he usually doesn't? It would make more sense to me if he said the allegations were untrue or she is misunderstanding something or has it wrong. Not "more than it needs to be"

I just understood it to mean that he had no ulterior motives in avoiding her phone calls. If what she's said publicly is any indication of how she talks to him privately, I can't say I blame him. :twocents:

 

[nursebeeme]

entire press release at link but here is a snip

Today, uniformed Sheriff’s Deputies will begin contacting residents from Vallecito Dam north through the Vallecito area. The Deputies will be accompanied by Task Force members and are seeking any information that may be helpful to the investigation. They will not be conducting a house-to-house search, but this canvasing by Task Force members may take several days. Residents are encouraged to ask for proper law enforcement identification if they are approached by investigators who are not accompanied by a uniformed officer.

The Task Force is asking the citizen volunteers who have been so helpful in canvasing the area to please refrain from volunteer searches north of Vallecito dam as this could interfere with the Task Force’s search.

La Plata County Search and Rescue Team members are on standby and will be called in to assist if any new leads are identified that warrant other areas to be searched. They have covered all the pertinent areas around Vallecito Reservoir

**also note that there have been hundreds of tips and that they have two crime analysts that are entering info into a crime analyst software most likely similar to what they used in the Jessica Ridgeway case**

http://www.pinerivertimes.com/news.asp?artid=1094

 

[vasportsmom]

I just understood it to mean that he had no ulterior motives in avoiding her phone calls. If what she's said publicly is any indication of how she talks to him privately, I can't say I blame him. :twocents:

You make a fair point there but if 2 adults can't put aside their personal issues and come together for their child in the middle of a crisis then I'm going to judge them. It won't be flattering.


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[scorekeeper]

Mark says he left Dylan while he went to run some errands, and that he was gone when he returned. Police say Mark has been extremely cooperative, allowing a search of his home, among other things.

http://kdvr.com/2012/11/27/authorities-call-off-search-for-dylan-redwine-investigation-continues/

 

[mck16]

In an email sent out on Monday by Lewis-Palmer School District 38 to parents of LPMS students, they are urged that if any students have heard from Dylan or have any information to contact authorities immediately.http://www.ourcoloradonews.com/trila...a4bcf887a.html

Interesting that it's not urging them to be careful as a child abductor could be in the area ....

imo

So is this the school he attends right now or the school he once attended in the area he is visiting? tia

 

[ICUDOUCME]

Oh this is good, that means that they will also be covering the registered sex offender who is on CR500, if they haven't already.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

What?! His child has been missing for a WEEK, how the hell-o could she make it any worse. *falls off fence and bumps head on cold, hard ground*

ETA: Strike that now that Nurse has said the comment was taken out of context. *dusts self off and climbs back on fence with bottle of tylenol*


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I was proud to see that the father isnt going to respond to his ex's accusations about him she has made to the media. Imo, I do think she is making it worse. Both parents need to concentrate solely on finding Dylan. I am sure there are things he knows about his ex also but at least he is not talking disparagingly against her when really this is about finding Dylan whether he is dead or alive.

I also find it odd that this mother has been so adamant that her son is a techy kid and not the outdoorsy type when there is video footage of him having loads of fun barechested on a creek and he looked very comfortable in that environment.

What I think is he most likely stays inside when he is with her and plays games but when he is with his dad he does outdoor activities including fishing.

Imo, he knew his dad would be gone awhile running errands so he thought he could go fishing and be back by the time he returned.

An accident may have happened between leaving his dad's home and the lake where he was going to fish, imo.

I do not suspect any family member of involvement. LE says they are considering the possibility of an abduction or a runaway. That both parents are cooperating.

Now from what I read a postal worker that knows Dylan saw him walking with his backpack on. He could of course been picked up by someone after the sighting since his friends said he had hitch-hiked before this and this person may have turned out to be someone he could not trust. Or he made it to one of the waterways and an accident happened there, imo.

It does show he would get into a vehicle with someone he does not know. I wonder if either parent knew he hitch-hiked before. A lot of times the parents dont know things that their kids do but the kid's friends do.

IMO

 

[scorekeeper]

The Deputies will be accompanied by Task Force members and are seeking any information that may be helpful to the investigation. They will not be conducting a house-to-house search, but this canvasing by Task Force members may take several days.

http://www.pinerivertimes.com/news.asp?artid=1094

They are NOT doing house searches...

 

[OtherEyes]

They did that with JR too... :/

Yah you're right. Once they set up the command center, didn't they? I was taken back at first but I do understand volunteers are used differently now.
It just struck me that we are onto a new phase. I'm just glad that they seem to be using the same resources they had in the Jessica Ridgeway case and so hopefully they can find Dylan! (Having just recently done an investigation for a missing child there. Hopefully this turns out differently.)lease:
O/T Siggs will be tried as an adult in that case as of today's hearing.

 

[shefner]

I don't know....but thinking logically, if Dylan was indeed willing to hitchhike, then I think he would be most likely to hitchhike to his friend's house instead of to the dam to fish. After all, that was the thing he was most excited about: seeing his friends! If he had overslept, as his dad said, then the most logical thing to do would be to text or call his friends and let them know...."Hey, my dad is gone to do errands. He will bring to your house when he gets home...or I will hitch a ride over there." The fishing story seems out of place to me.

 

[SailorMoon]

And riddle me this - just because his fishing pole is/was gone - why did dad automatically assume/know it was that specific lake - so so so far away??? <modsnip>

 

[vasportsmom]

I was proud to see that the father isnt going to respond to his ex's accusations about him she has made to the media. Imo, I do think she is making it worse. Both parents need to concentrate solely on finding Dylan. I am sure there are things he knows about his ex also but at least he is not talking disparagingly against her when really this is about finding Dylan whether he is dead or alive.

I also find it odd that this mother has been so adamant that her son is a techy kid and not the outdoorsy type when there is video footage of him having loads of fun barechested on a creek and he looked very comfortable in that environment.

What I think is he most likely stays inside when he is with her and plays games but when he is with his dad he does outdoor activities including fishing.

Imo, he knew his dad would be gone awhile running errands so he thought he could go fishing and be back by the time he returned.

An accident may have happened between leaving his dad's home and the lake where he was going to fish, imo.

I do not suspect any family member of involvement. LE says they are considering the possibility of an abduction or a runaway. That both parents are cooperating.

Now from what I read a postal worker that knows Dylan saw him walking with his backpack on. He could of course been picked up by someone after the sighting since his friends said he had hitch-hiked before this and this person may have turned out to be someone he could not trust. Or he made it to one of the waterways and an accident happened there, imo.

It does show he would get into a vehicle with someone he does not know. I wonder if either parent knew he hitch-hiked before. A lot of times the parents dont know things that their kids do but the kid's friends do.

IMO

I agree with you. Mom's comments to the media were out of line. They served no purpose other than to show she is willing to be petty and vindictive but if she is telling the truth about Dad refusing to respond to her or the older son then he is no better.

This is the downside to having kids. You are tied to another adult for pretty much the rest of your life, like it or not and odds are on not. I have an ex-husband that I shared a child with for 8 years (he signed over his rights to get out of paying child support) and it sucked but that wasn't my child's fault. I choose to reproduce with someone that turned out to not be so great but I still had a responsibility to be a grown up about it so my son didn't suffer or become a pawn. These parents bear the same burden.

If Dad harmed Dylan then there will be plenty of time for Mom to trash him later and nobody will judge her but it isn't appropriate now. Hopefully that little boy is going to be found safe and then those comments are going to be out there for him to read. That isn't cool.

ETA: I don't give much weight to the geek vs jock descriptions. I have a 12yo boy that loves soccer and will play outside with his friends all day but left on his own he would rather read, watch TV or play video games. I'm sure each parent used the"side" of him that they most relate to when describing him.


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[i8mypaint]

They have not ruled anyone out yet? Am I correct? Just have said they're cooperating? I thought JR's parents were ruled out fairly quickly.

And thank god sigg will be tried as an adult!

 

[TexasCharm]

I agree with you. Mom's comments to the media were out of line. They served no purpose other than to show she is willing to be petty and vindictive but if she is telling the truth about Dad refusing to respond to her or the older son then he is no better.

This is the downside to having kids. You are tied to another adult for pretty much the rest of your life, like it or not and odds are on not. I have an ex-husband that I shared a child with for 8 years (he signed over his rights to get out of paying child support) and it sucked but that wasn't my child's fault. I choose to reproduce with someone that turned out to not be so great but I still had a responsibility to be a grown up about it so my son didn't suffer or become a pawn. These parents bear the same burden.

If Dad harmed Dylan then there will be plenty of time for Mom to trash him later and nobody will judge her but it isn't appropriate now. Hopefully that little boy is going to be found safe and then those comments are going to be out there for him to read. That isn't cool.


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Put yourself in her shoes assuming a couple of things.

Assume your 13 yo son is missing.
Assume you just sent him to your ex less than 24 hours ago.
Assume you haven't been able to reach your ex or your son.
Assume you really DO believe that he is capable of harming Dylan.
Assume you are dying inside because of what you believe.
Assume a reporter asks you "What do you think happened here?"

I think I would be screaming it from the roof top ... "I think he's capable. I'm afraid he's done something. I KNOW him ... Please help me"

Out of line or not ..

imo

eta .. she could just be a drama queen ... but we don't know that either...

 

[DylansMom34]

I'm sitting in a time out chair here trying very hard to not even post on this thread, so as not to be grounded completely.

But if certain comments about dad are not allowed, by goodness judgmental comments about the mom better darn well not be allowed either. MOOOOOOO

 

[jjenny]

I find what the mother has been saying totally believable.
I have no idea why some people have a problem with it.
She send her child to his father, now the child is missing.
Either way, the father was in charge of the son so is responsible for his well-being, no?

 

[princesspjs]

Dylan allegedly slept at his dad's house on Sunday night. Is there some reason (other than an ominous one) that the scent dogs couldn't use those sheets or blanket?

Good question!

Maybe the sheets/blanket weren't laundered before Dylan allegedly used them so they wouldn't have only Dylan's scent on them.

Another thought is maybe Dylan is with the blanket/sheet he allegedly used...wherever that might be?

IMO, JMO, MOO

 

[PlainJaneDoe]

Just something that was on my mind when I fell asleep last night - may be a moot point by now or have been mentioned by someone else already - but I think I remember some comments on the previous thread that people (the posters) were having trouble believing Dylan would run away/stay away because of the visit to dad's. Two objections that I think (and I cannot emphasize this enough! lol) I remember were that (1) Even if he didn't like staying with dad, it was only for this short period, and mom had recently been awarded sole custody, and/or (2) He wouldn't run away into the mountains without a definite plan to sustain himself.

I certainly have no idea about Dylan as an individual, and I'm have no firm opinion myself about whether or not he voluntarily disappeared. But I would like to say, as far as those 2 objections, I think that we need to remember that they are valid reasons for US as ADULTS to stay put, but to a kid they might mean nothing. Regarding the first objection, I can very easily see how a "short visit" with Dad might be the final straw for a kid who didn't want to be there. Imagine that Dylan didn't like visitation with Dad to start with...Mom gets full custody like 2 months ago(?) and things look great, then he gets sent right back to Dad's for the holiday. I can see myself in that situation feeling like absolutely nothing had changed, and it was gonna always be that way no matter what the courts said about "sole custody." As a personal example, I can VERY vividly recall being a teenager who felt bullied and isolated in high school and feeling like it was forever. People would remind me that after I graduated I never had to see those people again and it would all be over, and I knew that...but deep inside I felt like it didn't matter, like in my brain I could see the calendar and know that it was going to end, but deep inside I felt like "things" were never going to change. (Yah I know, it doesn't make sense now!) And as for the second objection...based on the quotes about Dylan not being the outdoorsy type (my paraphrase obviously) and on his age, I wonder how realistic his plans would be, IF he did plan to run away and stay away in a remote environment, especially if the plans were made "in the heat of the moment," when he was seeing red from an argument with dad, eg.

Anyway, just some thoughts that were on my mind...'xuse the rambling, please. :iamashamed: