CO - Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 Nov 2012 - #2

[i8mypaint]

I agree I am sure she didn't , but now that it happened, she is not surprised????????? That just doesn't make sense to me. He was either violent or he wasn't. He either didn't treat Dylan good or he did. Guess I am just confused. I will say it again, I would in no way subject my 13 year old son to a man who I didn't trust. jmo

Sometimes you don't have a choice. Contempt of court doesn't sound good to me, as much as I don't trust my ex my kid still deserves a dad.

 

[pinto]

So is this the school he attends right now or the school he once attended in the area he is visiting? tia

Right now. Lewis-Palmer is in the CO Springs area.

 

[GateKeeper]

a colorado bureau of investigation spokeswoman said that historically, an estimated 12,000 to 14,000 children in colorado go missing every year.

oyyyy....:what:

http://www.durangoherald.com/articl...-vigil-tonight-in-Bayfield-for-missing-teen--

 

[scorekeeper]

I agree I am sure she didn't , but now that it happened, she is not surprised????????? That just doesn't make sense to me. He was either violent or he wasn't. He either didn't treat Dylan good or he did. Guess I am just confused. I will say it again, I would in no way subject my 13 year old son to a man who I didn't trust. jmo

Dylan Redwine, 13, disappeared in Vallecito, 22 miles northeast of Durango, after a court ordered visit with his father for the Thanksgiving holiday

Both boys were wearing hoodies and backpacks. It has not been confirmed if this was Dylan Redwine.

http://www.ourcoloradonews.com/tril...cle_3856539e-38c7-11e2-a1a5-001a4bcf887a.html

BBM
The visit was court ordered. We don't know what information mom or dad presented to the judge, but for some reason, the judge/court ordered the visit. Perhaps mom thought - okay, let's try this; perhaps Dylan and his dad can build a relationship; maybe he has changed....etc.

Now, 8 days later, her son is no where to be found. Her ex-husband won't talk to her. So now, perhaps, all those old feelings about her previous relationship with Dylan's father are resurfaces. JMO

If the sighting has not been confirmed, isn't that like saying he has not been sighted?

 

[LotusPawprint]

http://www.durangoherald.com/articl...-vigil-tonight-in-Bayfield-for-missing-teen--

very good article

In response to specific questions about what direction his investigations are taking, Bender said: “We have not closed the door on anything. We do not comment about ongoing investigations until they’re brought to a conclusion.”

Interesting.... Even to ask for help or leads, to rule out RSO's or potential suspects?

The Vallecito task is following what typically happens in the disappearance of a child, said Bob Lowery, executive director of the missing children division of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.


Suspending an active search for a missing child doesn’t mean it is put on the back burner, Lowery said.


“There are two components to a missing-child case – the active search and the work of investigators, which goes on out of sight and after a search ends,” Lowery said.


The center has one of its 84 Team Adam members in La Plata County to support investigators, Lowery said. Team Adam is made up of retired law-enforcement officers with expertise in missing children.

 

[Bravo]

This is just so sad. Disturbing to me that Mom just recently received full custody. Why? Mom has stated her ex has issues with his temper. Words to that effect. I don't think it would be a stretch to wonder if there was abuse in the marriage. How many cases have we followed when a child disappears under a Parents watch it is the Parent. I too start my theories based on who last saw/was with the person/child and work my way outward. What scares me is too many cases spouse never physically abused their child but sure didn't mind "taking their child out" to get back at the other Parent :furious: I hope Dylan is safe and my thoughts are totally off the mark.

 

[vasportsmom]

And maybe mom said some of those things if it is true that Dylan's father is not communicating with her or the older son during this most difficult situation?

If Dad is refusing to communicate with Mom <modsnip> She rightfully has questions that only he knows the answers to and she deserves those answers. But Mom doesn't get a free pass to sling accusations at Dad in the media because he won't talk to her. Someone has to be the adult and put Dylan first. It doesn't help Dylan to have his parents slinging arrows at each other. It muddies the water and takes the focus off of finding him.

We all know the statistics if Dylan didn't runaway or otherwise wander off and get lost/injured then odds are that Dad or someone else known to Dylan harmed him. Stranger abductions are rare but they do happen and if a stranger took him he has likely changed his appearance by now. That means we need people paying close attention to faces not assuming that Dylan is dead and focusing on finding a body that has been hidden.


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[vega]

The concern being expressed about the lack of clothing available from the Dad's house for the bloodhounds to use in the initial search for Dylan, where clothing had to be brought in from the Mom's house, can be explained, or fit into the known facts in the following way.

We know Dylan's phone, hat, backpack and cell phone charger are all missing. It's the cell phone charger that doesn't make sense, why did Dylan take that with him when he left Dad's house ? Suppose Dylan faked being asleep, or too tired, that morning to go with his Dad shopping. Instead Dylan planned all along to "take off" as soon as Dad left on the shopping trip. Keep in mind his Dad had already shut down Dylan's initial scheme of spending the night at his friends home, which can be viewed as an attempt by Dylan to get around this visit. As soon as his Dad leaves early that morning, Dylan packs up all of his stuff in his backpack and leaves Dad's house on his own with no intention of returning.

 

[GateKeeper]

http://www.onestopnewsstand.com/col...ays-he-cant-believe-ex-wife-would-suspect-him

I musta missed this.
Damn job really bites into my WSing time...grrrr.

The father of missing 13-year-old Dylan Redwine said Tuesday he can&#8217;t believe his ex-wife would suggest that he&#8217;s behind their son&#8217;s disappearance.

&#8220;I can&#8217;t believe you can be married to someone to 20 years and they could say those kinds of things about you,&#8221; Mark Redwine told KRDO Newschannel 13.

 

[JaimeSommers]

Am skimming to try and catch up after being offline at work all day. The search of the lake has been suspended? Has it been announced whether anything was found?

I hate typing this, but IF something happened to Dylan and he's in that lake, and (speculating) IF someone tries to say that Dylan must have fallen in trying to get his fishing pole (for example), whether or not he has water in his lungs should tell us whether he was dead or alive when he went in.

If he's not in the water, I hope they check it again. There was another recent case on WS of a missing young man (older than Dylan) who was found in a body water after the initial search didn't find him.

This case is really upsetting.

 

[SCHMAE]

Good question!

Maybe the sheets/blanket weren't laundered before Dylan allegedly used them so they wouldn't have only Dylan's scent on them.

Another thought is maybe Dylan is with the blanket/sheet he allegedly used...wherever that might be?

IMO, JMO, MOO

It's possible a boy that age didn't use any sheets or blankets. Teens fall asleep in front of their tv/ game/ pc all the time in a chair , on the couch, on the floor. So maybe there was not 'used ' linens so to speak. Just a guess.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I agree with you. Mom's comments to the media were out of line. They served no purpose other than to show she is willing to be petty and vindictive but if she is telling the truth about Dad refusing to respond to her or the older son then he is no better.

This is the downside to having kids. You are tied to another adult for pretty much the rest of your life, like it or not and odds are on not. I have an ex-husband that I shared a child with for 8 years (he signed over his rights to get out of paying child support) and it sucked but that wasn't my child's fault. I choose to reproduce with someone that turned out to not be so great but I still had a responsibility to be a grown up about it so my son didn't suffer or become a pawn. These parents bear the same burden.

If Dad harmed Dylan then there will be plenty of time for Mom to trash him later and nobody will judge her but it isn't appropriate now. Hopefully that little boy is going to be found safe and then those comments are going to be out there for him to read. That isn't cool.

ETA: I don't give much weight to the geek vs jock descriptions. I have a 12yo boy that loves soccer and will play outside with his friends all day but left on his own he would rather read, watch TV or play video games. I'm sure each parent used the"side" of him that they most relate to when describing him.


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We would have to know the relationship between the two parents before this happened to know if they should talk with each other or not, imo.

I, for one, would not speak to my ex if he had publicly accused me of harming my own child and without one shred of evidence to prove it. Blasting horrific accusations against someone across the country through the media is not a way to open communication up but to shut it down completely, imo. Maybe he knows her very well and how she would be if he did try to talk with her.

I have a feeling this was a nasty breakup and often if it.. is there is no reason to talk because it only ends in a shouting match. I also think this may be a case where one parent was pitching a child against the other parent and if so that is disgusting, imo.

I would tell my ex or let one of my family members do it for me that he can get all the information about what happened from LE who knows what transpired that morning before Dylan went missing. But talk with him after he has accused me of murdering my own child? NO WAY IN H*LL!

She just hasnt accused him of not taking care of Dylan........she has accused him of harming him. That is a horrendous accusation to make without any facts to back it up. It can ruin innocent lives. It is dangerous and highly reckless yet she did it with no regrets. I think Dylan left the house on his own and she just wants to place blame on someone else so her ex is the target.

Even though I dont think she is involved in his disappearance it makes me question everything she has said and what her real motive is. She would know if Dylan ever fished, played in the creek, and liked the outdoors even if he didnt do it with her, but to hear her tell it she was adamant .........he didnt like to do those things when it is obvious he did.

 

[LotusPawprint]

http://www.onestopnewsstand.com/col...ays-he-cant-believe-ex-wife-would-suspect-him

I musta missed this.
Damn job really bites into my WSing time...grrrr.

That link wouldn't open for me because it wanted to open in some program I don't have installed yet, apparently. Bummer.

Did he say anything else?

Interesting that he responded to the accusations, extreme as he or anyone else may view them to be, but still has yet to say anything about his son, make a public plea, talk about something that might help find him. jmo.

Seems like he took the bait.

I'm just waiting for him to address his missing son and how devastated he is and all that stuff. jmo, again.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

http://www.onestopnewsstand.com/col...ays-he-cant-believe-ex-wife-would-suspect-him

I musta missed this.
Damn job really bites into my WSing time...grrrr.

That would crush me ........if my ex accused me of such a horrible act.

I know this father has to be floored by her accusations hurled at him.

imo

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

I could be wrong, but I believe I read somewhere yesterday that multiple dogs who work with the same human(s) independently alerted somewhere. With no disrespect intended, just as a behavioral scientist, I believe that there is a difference between those multiple alerts and alerts given by multiple dogs who did not work with the same human(s). Again, just from the perspective of studying animal behavior, I think it is possible that there was some element in the training or treatment (includes, but not limited to, handling during the search, eg?) of those dogs that might make it more likely that they would make the same "false positive" than that, say, 3 dogs who'd not shared a trainer or handler would make the same "false positive." None of this is meant with any disrespect or anything else negative AT ALL and I am definitely not an expert in anything related to canines. Just some thoughts I had.

If I am reading this post right... Yes...I would thinks that 2-3 hits by separate dogs... Trained by separate handlers would be more credible than hits by 2-3 dogs of the same handlers...

JMO

 

[DylansMom34]

Of course, we don't know what LE knows and I bet even the family members know more than we do (because they are obviously talking with LE) so I don't think we can speculate any what evidence has been found, what LE is saying to the family about any evidence found, etc.

Bottom line is we don't know what Mom has been told.

 

[GateKeeper]

That link wouldn't open for me because it wanted to open in some program I don't have installed yet, apparently. Bummer.

Did he say anything else?

Interesting that he responded to the accusations, extreme as he or anyone else may view them to be, but still has yet to say anything about his son, make a public plea, talk about something that might help find him. jmo.

Seems like he took the bait.

I'm just waiting for him to address his missing son and how devastated he is and all that stuff. jmo, again.

OOOOPS...yeah it may be a "no no" link. Sorry you guys.:blushing: Ill see if I can find it somewhere else.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Of course, we don't know what LE knows and I bet even the family members know more than we do (because they are obviously talking with LE) so I don't think we can speculate any what evidence has been found, what LE is saying to the family about any evidence found, etc.

Bottom line is we don't know what Mom has been told.

I dont think they have told her anything except they continue to investigate and search for Dylan.

LE did say though that the father has been very cooperative......even letting them search his home and other things.

She said this a few days ago and IMO she hasnt got one thing to base it on except wanting to blame someone for Dylan being missing when the truth may be he left on his own and something happened to him after then.

IMO

 

[ICUDOUCME]

http://www.9news.com/news/article/301687/188/Teams-end-search-for-missing-13-year-old-boy

Shupe says the police are aware of an allegation made by Dylan's mother against his father in this case.

Shupe says they are not ruling Dylan's father out as a person of interest nor are they calling him a person of interest at this point.

So we are at least all on the same page, doesn't appear they have really ruled anyone out at this point, or for that matter ruled them in.

 

[DylansMom34]

She said it yesterday, not to be nitpicky.