CO - Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 Nov 2012 - #2

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  • #201
The concern being expressed about the lack of clothing available from the Dad's house for the bloodhounds to use in the initial search for Dylan, where clothing had to be brought in from the Mom's house, can be explained, or fit into the known facts in the following way.

We know Dylan's phone, hat, backpack and cell phone charger are all missing. It's the cell phone charger that doesn't make sense, why did Dylan take that with him when he left Dad's house ? Suppose Dylan faked being asleep, or too tired, that morning to go with his Dad shopping. Instead Dylan planned all along to "take off" as soon as Dad left on the shopping trip. Keep in mind his Dad had already shut down Dylan's initial scheme of spending the night at his friends home, which can be viewed as an attempt by Dylan to get around this visit. As soon as his Dad leaves early that morning, Dylan packs up all of his stuff in his backpack and leaves Dad's house on his own with no intention of returning.

BBM

One reason might be so that he could charge the phone back up if it got low. When my boys were teens, they always took a charger with them if they were going to be gone for any length of time. They spent so much time texting, etc. that the batteries would wear down, and they knew that if mom or dad called, they had better answer. So if they were heading to a friends house for any length of time, they'd take the charger so they had it if they needed it.

As to why his mom sent him, she really had no choice, unless she wanted to face contempt of court charges, and possibly the loss of custody. If the court determines a child will go to the non-custodial parent, you have to send them. You can't say no.

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  • #202
She could of paid the fine and kept him home. Sorry, but no I don't buy that. It was a standard visitation. Sorry I don't buy that. custody as opposed to him being injured or worse.

But would it JUST be a fine? What if she was incarcerated for contempt (it isn't a petty offence)? Where do you think he would have been sent?

I know in AZ that "playing games" against the other parent can cause you to lose what rights you do have. Obviously there is some type of history IF she in fact was granted sole custody...but I don't think the judge would order unsupervised visitation if he felt there was a risk.

OF COURSE THIS IS ALL MOO!
 
  • #203
welcome to websleuths JustJeannie! :cheer:
 
  • #204
Weird anyone know who Shupe is? Doesn't state that in the article.
 
  • #205
Weird anyone know who Shupe is? Doesn't state that in the article.

According to Lt. Ray Shupe, Durango Police, there are about 24 members on the task force.

^^^ snip from your link
 
  • #206
But would it JUST be a fine? What if she was incarcerated for contempt (it isn't a petty offence)? Where do you think he would have been sent?

I know in AZ that "playing games" against the other parent can cause you to lose what rights you do have. Obviously there is some type of history IF she in fact was granted sole custody...but I don't think the judge would order unsupervised visitation if he felt there was a risk.

OF COURSE THIS IS ALL MOO!

I'm pretty sure fines, contempt, loss of parenting rights, possible jail time. At least that is what my lawyer told me. I live in co.
 
  • #207
That link wouldn't open for me because it wanted to open in some program I don't have installed yet, apparently. Bummer.

Did he say anything else?

Interesting that he responded to the accusations, extreme as he or anyone else may view them to be, but still has yet to say anything about his son, make a public plea, talk about something that might help find him. jmo.

Seems like he took the bait.

I'm just waiting for him to address his missing son and how devastated he is and all that stuff. jmo, again.


Here ya go.
http://www.krdo.com/news/Missing-bo...-him/-/417220/17567216/-/1535yvy/-/index.html
 
  • #208
I'm pretty sure fines, contempt, loss of parenting rights, possible jail time. At least that is what my lawyer told me. I live in co.

Correct! She only did what was asked of her...sigh... Very sad situation all around. Praying for a happy ending and peace for this family.
 
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Someone just posted that there were 2 RSO in the general vicinity. It's a reasonable guess that LE checked RSO in a given area at some point (I hope!), I can't imagine that not being a standard part of an investigation like this. Gotta check the usual suspects. I'm a little surprised that LE hasn't even ruled the RSO's out, if they're able to. That would be a starting point for LE of course, having someone to rule out, as well as letting the public know that those individuals have been checked and cleared.


I keep going back to two things:
-LE silence and what that means (do they really have so little like they say or do they have something, anything that they can't/won't release for some reason).

- Not addressing the specific's about Dylan's last known hours & dad's story which might be verifiable. NOT to implicate dad but to narrow down a timeline and perhaps explain Dylan's state of mind / intentions. When and where was he really last seen? When and where was his cell last used? Dad's whereabouts, verified, and when? Are they unable to narrow all of this down, unwilling to discuss it - if so, why? Would it not help find Dylan? Would it hinder some element of solving the disappearance?
 
  • #211

Thank you.

I guess I should amend my statement about him not saying anything about his son. Consider my previous statement amended.


But...

A poster with Dylan's picture is on Redwine's door, and a little boy's blue bicycle sits next to his home

bbm Dylan had a bike?? Was it age appropriate for him now at 13?? Or was it for a younger, littler boy?? I had wondered if he had a bike at dad's house earlier but didn't ask. Surely if this was a bike Dylan could ride now, he would use that to make the trip to the lake, no? Okay maybye not 'surely' since nothing is surely in this case. Likely, probably.

<sigh>
 
  • #212
I find it bizarre that there apparently was nothing of the child's available for the dogs to track him. Didn't he bring clothes are other things with him? Where are all those things? What about the clothes he came in with? He didn't change any of his clothes or shoes? He didn't use sheets, pillows, etc?
 
  • #213
I find it bizarre that there apparently was nothing of the child's available for the dogs to track him. Didn't he bring clothes are other things with him? Where are all those things? What about the clothes he came in with? He didn't change any of his clothes or shoes? He didn't use sheets, pillows, etc?

Actually when you think about this, since it was only suppost to be for the Thanksgiving holiday, it could of been for a whole what 3 maybe 4 days, and boys are not like girls who pack half there stuff to go some where for a few days...and often seen that young boys Dylan's age tend to pack the least they can, meaning it could of all fit into his black backpack which he had with him....plus they are charging now for luggage that isn't carry on, so it could of been all he brought was in his backpack.
 
  • #214
Actually when you think about this, since it was only suppost to be for the Thanksgiving holiday, it could of been for a whole what 3 maybe 4 days, and boys are not like girls who pack half there stuff to go some where for a few days...and often seen that young boys Dylan's age tend to pack the least they can, meaning it could of all fit into his black backpack which he had with him....plus they are charging now for luggage that isn't carry on, so it could of been all he brought was in his backpack.

Reportedly the visit was for a week.
 
  • #215
If I am reading this post right... Yes...I would thinks that 2-3 hits by separate dogs... Trained by separate handlers would be more credible than hits by 2-3 dogs of the same handlers...

JMO

YES. Thank you lol for saying it so much more clearly.
 
  • #216
I don't think anyone here is putting the mother on trial. She is distraught and she is entitled to be. I imagine that every mother here would be in her shoes.

I can only speak for me but my point is that neither parent is behaving in the best interest of their child. I get that Mom & Dad don't like each other - chances are if each thought the other was wonderful and they had decent communication skills they wouldn't be exes. But ex or not they are co-parents and dad refusing to talk to mom and her reacting by slinging accusations at him in the media isn't doing their child any good. I can understand why Mom reacted the way she did but an explanation isn't an excuse.

If Dylan is found alive he is going to need both of his parents. How can we expect Dad to just ignore the things Mom said about him? Those accusations are out there and even if he is innocent they aren't going to go away.

Okay, fair enough. I understand that he felt the need to respond to the things she said. I just personally wish that somewhere in this we were seeing a scared, worried, caring dad. Just MOO of course.
 
  • #217
Just throwing out a possibility. Dylan could have fallen asleep in the same clothes he was wearing .. woke up and left in the same clothes he was wearing (he IS 13) .. and all the clothes he brought with him were recently laundered.

I'm just not sure why they couldn't use whatever he slept on that night? Unless he fell asleep on the couch or on the floor or on a fouton mattress in the bedroom, or .......

Maybe they specifically want CLOTHING WORN by the person .. IDK..

imo

We don't really know for sure that Dylan slept on anything the night he arrived at Dad's. In fact, I am not aware of any verification that Dylan ever arrived at Dad's home. All we have is the text saying his plane arrived and Dylan's dad's account of what happened after that. The information coming from him doesn't add up for me.

Even if Dylan was at Dad's home for a few hours, there would be something to use as a scent item...a cup or bottle of water, a towel used to dry his hands, video game controls, tv remote, etc.

MOO
 
  • #218
Reportedly the visit was for a week.

OK a week, my son can pack for a week(age 15)to go out of state to visit, in the winter time, and get it all in his packpack. I have seen him do it many times, plus pack books,and kindle.
 
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I feel the need to point out (again) that the mother being granted sole custody could have occurred for any number of reasons, one of those POSSIBLE reasons being the fact that she moved 295 miles away. Sure, there are other POSSIBLE reasons, but we can't just leap from "mother has sole custody" to "father is a bad bad man."

We don't know the reason (unless I missed someone posting something from MSM that states otherwise.)
 
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