CO - Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 Nov 2012 - #3

[SuziQ]

http://www.gjsentinel.com/breaking/articles/task-force-continues-search-for-missing-colo.-boy/

Task force continues search for missing Colo. boy

Mark Redwine says he wishes he and his ex-wife could come together at such a difficult time.


Either way...this is sad. IMO

Maybe he should have thought about that before avoiding his ex-wife and older son for a week.

 

[Abby Normal Again]

Can those of you more familiar with these cases refresh my memory on who, aside from Bianca's dad, is a male who staged an abduction? It seems to me more fathers go off the deep end and are more overt in their actions unless it was abuse of younger kids gone too far, as in Bianca's case. I can't think of many fathers of older kids who hurt them, hid them, and claimed missing. I am positive there are some, I'm just not getting as big of a reference pool as I'd like based on my memory.

Something just came to my mind....the mom is the only one not willing to accept any other outcome of this except he is deceased. She has seemed negative in my eyes from the get go. Pointing fingers, accusations..makes my hinkey meter go crazy :-( Sorry if this is out of line...

:moo:

I don't think she did anything wrong, but I do think she is not entirely credible as a source. IMO she is inferring and assuming based on her concerns and thought processes. NORMAL for a distraught mama, but not a good source of figuring out what is going on IMO.

I don't think he would even have started out in the morning without going for his phone. He would have plugged it in to use it, if he had to, in order to text his friend, say I am on the way, whatever.

The whole phone thing is the most hinky thing about this whole case to me. My teens are not like the kids described here who are always texting- but there phones see moderate use. To me it seems obvious that if his phone was not seeing data, Dad took it away punitively. (has LE specifically said "no use" or "no calls?") But then he should have had it to give LE. So I definitely think we can put this topic in the hinky box. It may be understandable, but it's outside of the realm of typical IMO.

Some thoughts... it's strange to me that both parents shared custody, and then mom petitioned for full custody and the dad only got visitation. Almost sounds to me like she was trying to keep the dad from seeing him at all. Judges will almost always side with the mom, so maybe dad had to go to court just to get visitation rights, and the judge ruled that she had to let him go. Doesn't really matter to me whether he wanted to go or not, but I would have to question...since he used to live in that area, and had friends there, why would he have NOT wanted to go for a visit with his dad, just so he could be with his friends.
IIRC, the older brother is 21, and from the video of the vigil, he looks a lot like the dad. So his visits would be strictly voluntary, since he is an adult. To clarify, in the video it had his name and age on the screen while he was speaking and I'm pretty sure he had the same name.

I'm trying not to interject too much in this case, because it's moving too fast for me to know if topics have already been covered... but one thing that struck me about the scowl emoticon is that if his mom was one to talk smack and stress during the whole custody thing, Dylan may have been feeding to her needs and emotions and not his. As a child I felt I needed to agree with my primary parent in order to "keep things smooth." Because saying anything positive about the other would result in the opposite of good times. Saying I was happy to see the other parent would be 100% off the table for me and many kids of sticky divorce.

IOW- I wouldn't read too much into the scowl emoticon. I don't think Dad was a total jerk or older brother would probably have been more aggressively cold to him than DR. Older brothers tend to be more "over" bad fathers than younger ones. Could be wrong, just my impression.

 

[TxLady2]

I am not sure if she is being 'negative', but maybe it is more like she is terrified.

When my good friends 15 yr old DD went missing, she would vacillate between hopefulness and despair. And when we were looking at her DD's facebook, she was certain that this one ex boyfriend had done something bad to her daughter. I didn't think she was being negative, she was just so devastated and scared by the situation. She actually called his house and made accusations and it was embarrassing later on, but understandable too.

She is being negative about the dad's involvement, though. She's strongly hinting that he has a temper and could have done something to Dylan.
I realize some women can imagine the worst scenarios in these cases, but she comes across to me as paranoid regarding her ex. And kids pick up on these things, so that could be why Dylan may not have wanted to go for that visit, IF that is true. Honestly, do we know that, or is it just speculation?

 

[DylansMom34]

If this has already been posted, sorry. There's so much to read if you're away from the computer even just a few hours, much less to sleep !
What if he and his friends were up to something, very TEENAGER and yet not right, like drinking or drugs? I'm not trying to throw all these kids under the bus here but it's pretty common for boys of that age to grab a bottle from grandpa's cabinet or maybe get some weed from someone's older sibling or something. So the fear of being exposed for that might keep them from being forthcoming, even though it's much less serious than a missing boy . Maybe there were all going to meet or all did meet to have a smoke or a drink and now are way too afraid to tell. Thoughts?

I have a hard time picturing a group of kids keeping a lid on this for almost two weeks. Plus, these kids were probably interviewed at least once or more times by LE, they've been out searching, some of them talked at the vigil.

 

[TxLady2]

Of all people, Dylan's mother clearly has an alibi, since she was nowhere near when he went missing. I don't find anything strange about her behavior either.

I don't think anyone is saying that she could have done something to him, what most are talking about is her speculations regarding the dad's involvement.

But... I can't seem to wrap my head around the dad being responsible either. For one thing, why would he have gone to all that trouble to fly him there for the visit and then cause him to disappear as soon as he got there? Doesn't make sense to me. I'm pretty sure he paid for the ticket to fly him, that's how it usually works, the non-custodial parent foots the bill for the kids' travel expenses... or at least shares the cost with the custodial parent. We always paid ALL the travel expenses ourselves.

 

[GateKeeper]

There's a great picture here...http://durangoherald.com/section/mobile

It sure seems like a close little community.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

We have a landline and my children act like it's the plague. They won't touch it or use it for anything. At Dylan's age a landline looks like a silk spinning wheel from the dark ages............does not compute.

I'm 20 and I am more than familiar with landlines. Would there really be that much of a difference between how two people who were born only 7 years apart viewed them? Most families I know still own them. Surely, he has seen them at friends' and families' houses, or in the classrooms at schools, or when he goes to the doctor/dentist's office. IDK I just don't think they are that foreign to someone born around '99 but maybe I'm wrong.

 

[Bravo]

Me toooo!! (which one of you'se guys is 'tagious!?) :waitasec:

But after playing catch-up this morning, I'm wondering if some of the stuffiness in my noggin might not be from it being full of all the inconsistencies and unanswered questions that come up each time a new tidbit of info is released?

Bless the soul that's putting together a timeline for us - that's got to be a daunting task!

:getwell:

Me Achoo!!!!!!

 

[No Stone Unturned]

Quick Recap:

Fishing pole found at dam: did not belong to Dylan and is not related to the case.
(This means that Dylan's fishing pole is still unaccounted for.)

Sighting of Dylan are unconfirmed. (I find it odd that in such a small community, that the two boys who were sighted have yet to come forward. Also- no mention of fishing rod with the two boys, only backpacks.)

Dad is doing much better (in my opinion) of damage control. I believe that he seems sincere in the video footage and he is not trying to engage in a fight with the mom. (Kudos!)

Mom is grieving and is the pointing the finger at Dad because he is the easiest target.

2 RSOs live in the area.

There is one road in and out of the neighborhood he disappeared from.

LE is asking the public to come forward with any footage from the evening before and the day of the disappearance.

LE has ruled out the possibility of Dylan running away.

 

[SuziQ]

I don't think anyone is saying that she could have done something to him, what most are talking about is her speculations regarding the dad's involvement.

But... I can't seem to wrap my head around the dad being responsible either. For one thing, why would he have gone to all that trouble to fly him there for the visit and then cause him to disappear as soon as he got there? Doesn't make sense to me. I'm pretty sure he paid for the ticket to fly him, that's how it usually works, the non-custodial parent foots the bill for the kids' travel expenses... or at least shares the cost with the custodial parent. We always paid ALL the travel expenses ourselves.

Ethan Stacy's mother went through all that trouble too. IMO, for some fighting for custody is more a matter of winning, ego, etc., than it is for the love of the child.

 

[shefner]

If Dylan didn't run away, then I'm not sure what's left.
*He was abducted from Dad's home
*He tried to hitch to his friends' house (without any texts or calls to friends) and met foul play
*He had an accident and someone covered it up
*He had an argument with Dad at some point between the airport and Monday evening

Please feel free to add to the list....

ETA: How can LE "rule out" running away?

 

[SCHMAE]

I'm 20 and I am more than familiar with landlines. Would there really be that much of a difference between how two people who were born only 7 years apart viewed them? Most families I know still own them. Surely, he has seen them at friends' and families' houses, or in the classrooms at schools, or when he goes to the doctor/dentist's office. IDK I just don't think they are that foreign to someone born around '99 but maybe I'm wrong.

Well I was exaggerating a bit. I'm sure he knows what one is. But I can tell you my children have not used it in years. They will wait until their battery charges and go without . Plus they do almost no ' talking' which is all you can do on a landline. They would rather text or something. IDK , it was just a thought.

 

[Bravo]

I wouldn't have a warm fuzzy feeling toward an ex who doesn't answer my calls/texts from me or my older Son when the Youngest is reported missing. If i felt he had anger issues. I would be pointing fingers too. The most important thing to me would be getting information and finding my Son. Anyone who stood in my way of getting info?????:banghead::furious: His own Father :waitasec: If anyone had an abnormal reaction I would say Dad. His focus should be finding his Son. Not whatever went on with the Ex. MOO

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Night all. My head hurts and i haven't had a big ole box of wine :seeya: Some benefits to the flu. You can hide in your bedroom hang out here with no expectations from anyone :great: Wish you were found by now and safe Dylan sigh.......

I hope your flu gets better, Bravo! lease:

but be sure to keep enjoying those benefits... Hidden away in cozy room with WS with no expectations from others! :great:

 

[Bravo]

Thanks so much ^. Least i get to hang with you fine folk :seeya:

 

[MissSunshine]

Woke up this morning thinking of Dylan. Hoping that someone gives the information needed to bring Dylan home. Someone out there knows something and it is time for them to speak up.

 

[TexasCharm]

Good morning folks .. :seeya: 15 pages of catch-up and a new thread since yesterday .. *sigh* ... my head is swimming.

I need some more :coffeews:

I really should: :werk:



BUT.I.DON'T.WANT.TO....

Dylan, honey, what happened to you .....

 

[mrsu]

Someone of FB mentions that the cell phone was turned off within an hour and a half of Dylan arriving to see his father.

 

[nervous_nellie]

at what point did the info that we had stating that

1. dylan was dressed and ready to go by either 6:30 -7:30 ? that dad saw him before he went to run the "errands"

2. Now everything (posts) are referring to the fact that dylan was not up and ready to go and that he over slept???

which is it? or are both just alternate theories?

 

[PlainJaneDoe]

Get well soon, Bravo & Paint! :coffeecup: <--- Made you some tea (apparently with a smiley pill in it?!)!