CO - Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 Nov 2012 - #3

[sarx]

I gave you one. Here is the Lake again
http://www.vallecitolakechamber.com/maps/index.asp

What other kind would you like? I'll try to help.

Sorry. Thank you for the lake map. I meant more specifically all of the locations connected to the case on 1 map (Dad's house, where the mail lady might have seen him, the lake, etc.)

 

[jjenny]

Oh but he did. .... and went on to seem a bit frustrated that they didn't go to the lake the first day because he told them the pole was missing...

imo

Yep, he was questioning why they didn't go search the lake right away. Sure sounds he told them about missing pole before they found one (that didn't belong to Dylan).

""I question why it has taken this long to start scouring the lake because from Day One they have known it is likely he had a fishing pole with him," Redwine, 52, said."

Read more: Search for missing 13-year-old continues in La Plata County - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/breakingn...ched-missing-boy-laplata-county#ixzz2Df3RTSib
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[JustJeannie]

Considering father was back by 11:30 am, using that logic, why didn't he plan to drop him off after his appointments?

That might well have been the plan. If he woke him up, Dylan was half awake and said he wanted to sleep, and Dad tells him "Fine, you'll have to wait until I get back and I'll take you then." Which would explain why he didn't leave note. He told him. But Dylan, being a typical teenage boy and half asleep, doesn't remember that.

He wakes up, Dad is gone, he's mad. He grabs his stuff and decides to start walking and hitch a ride. He's mad... so he doesn't leave a note or try to call his dad either.

Not saying this is what happened, but it is one scenario that makes sense of the story we've heard. As a mom of 3 sons, it fits as a possibility. Dylan wouldn't wake up, Dad tells him he'll take him when he gets back, and leaves later than originally planned, because he doesn't have to go to the friend's house. Dylan doesn't remember the conversation, and takes his stuff and leaves before dad gets back, intending to hitchhike to his friends... then sadly never makes it.

 

[jjenny]

Besides hoping and praying with all my might that they find Dylan, who has absolutely captured my heart, I am finding many of the peripheral aspects of this case fascinating, albeit puzzling. And this perception of Dylan's mother baffles me.
...

I don't get it either. I find it extremely bizarre. Dylan's mother send her child to his father. Father therefore was responsible for his well-being during the time Dylan was in his custody.
So I find the attitude toward mother expressed by some posters puzzling, to say the least.

 

[GateKeeper]

https://www.facebook.com/ReporterKevinTorres

Hes gettin ready to go live.

 

[Houston Mom]

Could Dylan be held up in one of those "off season" vacation homes just to embarrassed to come out??

 

[Portabella]

Yes IMO this actually "fits" with several issues..I'll explain..




where things again get murky for me is that when dad got to the friends he says they informed him that Dylan likely hitched a ride and something happened to him from there...

Where and why would these boys have not only stated this opinion to the media..but also Mark Redwine states that when he got to the friends this exact information was told him by these friends as well(ie. Dylan hitched a ride and something happened to him there)...

Why why why would these friends have IMMEDIATELY CONCLUDED this and IMMEDIATELY RELAYED THIS INFO TO DAD??..
below is the link to the quote where dad states this is exactly what he was initially told by Dylan's friends on Monday when he went to them asking where Dylan was..
http://www.denverpost.com/recommended/ci_22063185

Are they sure that he did not reach the boys via landline that morning and tell them of his plans to hitch a ride? Maybe they are afraid to say what he said???? I don't know, I too find that odd, its like a piece is missing to this puzzle, well actually several.
this would be an odd comment off the cuff without them talking to Dylan. I wonder if they are getting his phone records for his landline (meaning dad)???

 

[cluciano63]

With Dylan having very good friends, as it seems, there, why so hesitant to make the trip?

 

[mck16]

With Dylan having very good friends, as it seems, there, why so hesitant to make the trip?

Where are we getting the info he was hesitant to make the trip? Because of the frown on the text he sent his mother, what else? tia

maybe his hesitation if any had nothing to do with his father. Maybe he didn't want to leave his girlfriend. Maybe there was a party he didn't want to miss. We just don't know. jmo

 

[nikb]

We just flew this weekend. We flew a major carrier and the stated policy was that children aged 5-14 had to fly with either a parent or an airline employee escort. Not until a child was over the age of 14 could they fly unescorted. The escort stays with the child until picked up by someone authorized to meet the child. I'm not sure if that is a federal law/rule, but I would imagine most airlines have similar restrictions. I cannot imagine allowing a 13 year old to navigate security, the airport, a flight, walking through the whole airport on the other end to get to where non-ticketed passengers are allowed ot wait, etc.

Sorry if this has been mentioned already, I'm a bit behind and a first time poster...

Welcome Pinkandgreenmom! Glad you decided to post.

Thanks for the reply! I appreciate you sharing your personal and recent experience. A few others have mentioned similar type policies with some variations, but it makes me feel better knowing that at very least someone knew where Dylan was from Point A to Point B related to the plane. When a thread is moving this fast it's nearly impossible to keep up and not miss or duplicate anything. I think we just all do the best we can to keep up.

 

[Abby Normal Again]

In that case, why didn't he go and check if the pole was missing? If it actually is missing, where is it?

That isn't what I am responding to. I'm responding to the idea that it's odd that the dad would notice/mention/report a missing fishing pole.

I am Implying that the finding of the fishing pole may have led to the checking of DR'a fishing pole, and not vice versa.

I won't speculate on where the fishing pole is or why it's missing because I have no idea. Without a baseline of what is normal for this child and family, anything is possible at this point.

 

[kkdj]

Do we having any audio links to the father speaking?
Tia

 

[Abby Normal Again]

Thank you for this perspective. That makes sense.
Sorry you had to go through having your daughter missing. I can't even imagine! :hug:

Thank you! It was ok. Child wandered too far in play when she was supposed to be in yard, got frightened at dark and hunkered down in a wooded area. The people looking for her scared her and they wouldn't let me leave the driveway, lol. I think they should use the momma's voice in searching, but what do I know?

I had a pretty good feeling she was hiding, it is not unlike her. Still- longest few hours of my life!

 

[OneLove]

With Dylan having very good friends, as it seems, there, why so hesitant to make the trip?

I guess we actually know so very little, so there are many possibilities. I'm still firmly perched on the fence, so I take no "side". I could, however, think of several reasons for Dylan to not want to make the trip. I'm not saying he actually didn't want to make it, understand, just that there are possibilities why he MIGHT not have wanted to. One that we saw frequently in social work and child advocacy was active "parental alienation". Again, not saying that is the case here, but we certainly don't know enough to know yea or nay. Another could be that he has made friends in his new home and wanted to be with them there. At that age, friends mean everything to most kids. Maybe he was sweet on a girl. Maybe he had to pass on a "fun event" with his brother, or whole family. Maybe he LIKES his new home community, more to do there than being bored and isolated with Dad. Maybe he and Dad just didn't get along or communicate well and he was uncomfortable. Maybe he was infuriated that Dad used family court to "enforce" the visit rather than appeal to Dylan's free will, maybe there were extracurricular school based activities that he would miss, maybe mom's house has more lenient "rules" than Dad's, maybe Dad talks bad about Mom when he is alone with him, maybe maybe maybe. I can think of quite a few more. If I HAD to guess, I'd say odds are that mom doesn't do much to help Dylan WANT to go see his dad. I sure saw THAT more frequently than anything else.

But again, maybe it is NONE of these. :shrug:

ETA: I'd also be curious as to the status of child support. :what:

 

[mck16]

That isn't what I am responding to. I'm responding to the idea that it's odd that the dad would notice/mention/report a missing fishing pole.

I am Implying that the finding of the fishing pole may have led to the checking of DR'a fishing pole, and not vice versa.

I won't speculate on where the fishing pole is or why it's missing because I have no idea. Without a baseline of what is normal for this child and family, anything is possible at this point.

This comment applies to so many cases right now and I think it is brillant. jmo

 

[LadyBugSTL]

Could Dylan be held up in one of those "off season" vacation homes just to embarrassed to come out??

......I cannot *begin to tell you how {{{{much I wish that were so!!!!}}}}

I am still hoping and praying for a miracle and that something like this is the case, however, I myself believe (and this is just me) that with the door to door searches already performed they would have found Dylan by now - and - I don't think he'd put his mother, brother and family through this - he'd have come out eventually and tried to make some kind of contact with them, at least I think so.........(but I'm not giving up on that miracle, until I have to!)

 

[Abby Normal Again]

Oh but he did. .... and went on to seem a bit frustrated that they didn't go to the lake the first day because he told them the pole was missing...

imo

Good to know! I came in late and missed that!

 

[katydid23]

That might well have been the plan. If he woke him up, Dylan was half awake and said he wanted to sleep, and Dad tells him "Fine, you'll have to wait until I get back and I'll take you then." Which would explain why he didn't leave note. He told him. But Dylan, being a typical teenage boy and half asleep, doesn't remember that.

He wakes up, Dad is gone, he's mad. He grabs his stuff and decides to start walking and hitch a ride. He's mad... so he doesn't leave a note or try to call his dad either.

Not saying this is what happened, but it is one scenario that makes sense of the story we've heard. As a mom of 3 sons, it fits as a possibility. Dylan wouldn't wake up, Dad tells him he'll take him when he gets back, and leaves later than originally planned, because he doesn't have to go to the friend's house. Dylan doesn't remember the conversation, and takes his stuff and leaves before dad gets back, intending to hitchhike to his friends... then sadly never makes it.

I am with you on this scenario. But I wonder how many people would be around to see him if he took off walking with his backpack that morning. There is apparently one road only that leads out of that area. So why didn't anyone see him walking or hitching that day?

That is what I don't understand. It is a very small community and everyone knows evryone else. So why hasnt anyone reported seeing him walking to town?

 

[LotusPawprint]

If there's any weight in the postal worker's potential sighting of Dylan, who she apparently knows, any chance she remembers what color the hooded sweatshirts either of the boys were wearing? I haven't seen that in any articles, the only description has been that they both had black backpacks and Dylan's backpack per mom was black. LE could be withholding this info or she may not remember... further there's a possibility if that was Dylan he could've been wearing a borrowed hoodie of whoever he was with but it would be super useful if mom could confirm the color with postal worker's account.

Also early on I remember reading one of the reported sightings of Dylan was before that person knew he was missing, but I can't remember which sighting or any other details so treat it as rumor /unconfirmed until/unless I can find a link.

 

[OneLove]

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<modsnip>. And with a kid that age, he might sleep until noon or after, especially if he'd been awake into the wee hours video gaming. Dad may well have thought son would still be sacked out in bed when he got home. In any case, son is old enough to call Dad when he wakes up and see wassup.